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  1. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

    Karthwasten taken with a trebuchet

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  2. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

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  3. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

    Dres up. Defeated Skyrim and Sharnhelm at the bridge, finished off Skyrim's fleet, took out Redoran's assassin.

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  4. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

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  5. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

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  6. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

    Uh, now wait a second. Why is the mission reward unit rule being delayed by another turn? Or do you mean this immediately upcoming turn (turn 79)?
  7. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

    I'm in favor of the proposed rule. Cutting off time-intensive edge cases is good for the game because it means players don't need to risk burnout for optimal play.
  8. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

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  9. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

    Arranging for an ally to capture one of your settlements like that still counts as a trade.
  10. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

    By that reasoning literally nothing counts as a warzone unless they're two tiles apart like east and west Osgiliath in TATW, because everything else could theoretically have a fort built to separate...
  11. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

    Again, exactly what do you expect would have happened, if we traded Bravil after getting that response from the admin? Do you honestly believe that was him saying "do whatever you want"?

    And...
  12. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

    You wouldn't have to replay the turn if you checked ahead of time whether the move was allowed, instead of running ahead with your own self-serving interpretation of the rule borrowed from an...
  13. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

    There has always been variation in rules between hotseats. Especially between ones with entirely different mods. Back in the day Westeros hotseats may as well have been a different planet from...
  14. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

    I wasn't exactly expecting to have an admin resign on us.

    In any case, the ruling was made. Its inconvenient that Wolf failing to write it down in public means you weren't aware of it when playing...
  15. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

    Option 1.

    This discussion should have been over the moment I shared the ruling of the previous admin. There is no ambiguity here. One side of this hotseat went through the proper channels to...
  16. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

    If you want to reverse that precedent, you'd better be willing to reverse the past 5 turns of the hotseat then since the situation in Pelletine would look quite a bit different if we hadn't been...
  17. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

    Different hotseat, different rules. Are you disputing the prior ruling from reaktorken?
  18. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

    Our side considered trading away Bravil from Pelletine to Anequina ~5 turns ago to get mission reward ships to spawn somewhere else instead, but we questioned whether it would be alllowed, since...
  19. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

    I don't see why it needs to be that complicated. Your version is essentially mine with added riders, and those riders *will* be the cause of dispute.
  20. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

    Its not difficult to judge whether a move has legitimate purpose or not. Taking Riverwood first, thats fine, nobody would ever object to the value of capturing a settlement. Besieging the orcish...
  21. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

    Basing the rule on a given number of units is likely to lead to disputes regarding which units 'count'. Ex, in the scenario below, where A/a and B/b are forts and armies of the respective players,...
  22. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

    We've spent three pages of the thread arguing that topic already. The final ruling has been made. Its time to move on.
  23. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

    I guess the question then is: is anyone having fun here? If not it might be best to simply end this hotseat, since a majority of the participants have expressed a desire for it to be over with to one...
  24. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

    No need to belabor it, the ruling was made. Game resumes.

    But yes, congrats to jimmydude for coming up with the move regardless
  25. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

    Again, not the primary argument. The rule against besieging to deny retreat exists to prevent exactly this sort of scenario, it just takes more units to do it by physically occupying all possible...
  26. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

    There is no world in which it makes sense to have the rule against walls of units to block agents but allow them to block retreats.

    You keep going back to arguing that the yoyo bug wasn't used,...
  27. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

    The land blockade issue was literally nothing. Jadli got his wires crossed and was thinking of the rule from BD2, I pointed out to him that that rule wasn't in this one, then Mergor caught wind of it...
  28. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

    It didn't have room inside the fort all the way at the other end of Skyrim. It absolutely had room inside Falkreath, or the fort north of Falkreath, or in Morthal, all of which it was deliberately...
  29. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

    The only difference between this and the scenario described by the ubiquitous 'no besieging to deny retreat' rule is that it generally takes more than one unit to execute. And sure, it happens...
  30. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

    Its not like this ruling is a disruption to plans that could have possibly existed prior to the turn just now posted. This is an opportunistic attempt to get a free use of something that is obviously...
  31. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

    Not sure what jimmy could say that isn't already clear from the screenshots, but ok

    the Air Bud clause is one thing, but this case is a pretty egregious skirting of the spirit of the rules, and...
  32. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

    yeah I'm going to call :wub: on forcing Brokil to retreat halfway across the map instead of to literally any of the much closer garrisons in southern skyrim
  33. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

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  34. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

    Of course you're willing to accept whichever ruling, you break even at worst calling into question an understanding that has held across every single hotseat in the history of this forum on the...
  35. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

    As I pointed out in DMs, and which you've quite noticeably avoided addressing, is that the 'ships cant leave blockaded ports' rule is one calling out a bug exploit. Your argument that it should cover...
  36. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

    Has anything other than option A ever been enforced in a hotseat that didn't specifically have a rule similar to the one in BD2?

    When a land unit stands on a hostile port, all that happens...
  37. Poll: Re: [The Elder Scrolls - Unofficial Patch 1.42] Black Drake

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  38. Re: [KORAH] Return of The Old Guard (Veteran Hotseat)

    Even disregarding Mudd's collapse in the north from Stark joining the fight, I don't think the result was going to be in doubt for much longer. Next turn Gardener would have become eligible for the...
  39. Re: [KORAH] Return of The Old Guard (Veteran Hotseat)

    nvm double post
  40. Re: [KORAH] Return of The Old Guard (Veteran Hotseat)

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1luDf430pq7ct6A4sihKPqTV0Khyi6kxh/view?usp=sharing Gardener subbed, Stark up
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