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  1. Re: The cancer of King Charles and implications on the British Monarchy

    Hm, I guess the prophecies may be proven true afterall. The indolent King Charles will not reign for long and will be soon replaced by the glorious King William who will restore the British Empire to...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    I'm pretty sure that unhinged and retarded are words. Inappropriate and inapplicable words in this case, but words nonetheless.

    That Putin was interested in having Russia join NATO is hardly a...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    @Loyt
    Ah, I see. What I say is anecdotes, but your anecdotes are facts (such as Navalny getting bullied in prison which you of course can independently verify). NATO never committed any wrong here...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    You are picking and choosing facts/events to create certain impressions, so this comes across as a rather disingenuous comment.


    When did Putin praise NATO, or say it's ok if Ukraine joined?...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    Has Putin played the numbers game? The propaganda side of the war is ugly but we are, collectively, entertaining it in the west, by accepting Ukraine's propaganda with little scrutiny that is. I mean...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    That's being generous?
    You are saying the Kremlin doesn't care about the body count, implying that is that the Ukrainian presidency does? The same one that kept throwing bodies at the "strategically...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    Well according to CNN, reporting shortly after the fall of the city, Avdiivka, the fortress that was previously described as the dagger at the throat of Donetsk, is of "limited strategic importance"....
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    You don't feel validated because I refuse to accept your intentionally pejorative wording of my position. And I'm not planning to. Regarding coming with security guarantees, it's not my job to do...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    I know what the word means yes, but I also know how it is misrepresented by a lot of people. I don't agree with your observation that I use humanity and realpolitik based on whether it benefits Putin...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    His "apologists" huh? You must find it really hard to accept that not everyone who disagrees with such one-sided takes on geopolitics necessarily support the other side, or are even as extreme as you...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    So you genuinely see a potential future where Russia just says ok to Ukraine joining NATO? Because that's the alternative you are discussing. I mean to be fair there is one, it requires a very...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    Well true, the war will end with Ukraine's destruction and defeat I suppose. As the alternative, which is with Ukraine in NATO Russia would never allow as long as it stands. And it's more likely for...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    I'd gamble on the magic word before accepting your promise of endless war. I certainly consider it the morally superior path and at the same time, as far as the EU is concerned, the most advantageous...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    The article is serious when it suggests negotiations and an end to the war. The article's job isn't to decide on how it will happen, but to argue it can and should. Once they start negotiating,...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    Me? I can't offer anything, I'm just some guy in the EU. But if they sit together with Russia and negotiate they may find some guarantee that could deter further war. The article makes a few...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    Except they didn't.

    I will repeat Russia will not accept Ukraine in NATO. What you are advocating for is war to the end.

    Are you really unable to read past the first sentence of his response?...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    He has launched efforts to stop NATO's expansion. That much he has stated many times and in different ways. But again, you know better what he is thinking, you do read his mind.

    We already...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    Is it really? You have read his mind or sth and know better than what his own government has said many times. Yeah whatever, those mental gymnastics don't interest me.

    It's besides the point that...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    How exactly is the Algerian war, a colony revolt that is, equivalent to a state vs state war is beyond me. If I'm ignoring your examples, it's because there is no point in even trying to refute them....
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    Then you need to look for better examples. As the US was not the primary belligerent in the Vietnam war. Either way, I'm not sure what your issue with my statement that a war ends either via...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    Am I really? If there is no blame to go around and only one side is to blame then that side is the evil side and the other side is the good side. How is that not what you are saying?

    That's not...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    No, I did not imply that, I stated it outright. As did the article I shared. There is blame to share around. To think otherwise is laughable.
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    You misunderstood because I was not discussing who started the war, Stario was doing that. I was discussing an article I had shared earlier.

    How you could not understand, well I have a few ideas,...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    You are off topic and you have clearly not read the article discussed.
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    No, what is fatuitous is to still cling to childish notions of good guys vs bad guys. In the real world, things aren't black and white.

    A rough blueprint on what is offered in the article.

    You...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    As I said and the article said, there is blame to share around. You can either read the article in good faith, see for yourself its, I believe, reasonable points and hopefully agree that a...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    Both the point about Russia starting the war (ie there is enough blame to share around) and the one about "rewarding Putin" (lol), are addressed rather well in the article.

    And indeed those...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    An article making the case for a diplomatic settlement. It's good to see more of those and I'm hopeful that eventually people will come to their senses and sit down and negotiate. ...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    The way things developed, it's probably a good thing Ukraine is not a nuclear power, or this would have been a nuclear war now. I doubt that would have developed with as few casualties if anything....
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    I said "Russia included" in the post right above yours. Not that you would care to notice. So yeah, it is quite telling indeed. Of your extreme bias.

    No "Russian brethren" huh? No people in...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    That much is true. But it did serve US interests a great deal and we do have evidence (see eg the Nuland/Pyatt tapes) that shows the US playing kingmaker and effectively deciding who "rules" Ukraine...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    Yes it had broad support, but that doesn't turn the coup into a "natural response". Just because it had backing it doesn't mean it wasn't orchestrated and didn't serve certain interests.
    I'm not...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    Natural response, yeah sure. Well, no matter how many times characters like yourself keep repeating this nonsense it won't make it true. The maidan was nothing short of a coup and the US had its...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    Yes, that's what I got. You are stuck on the Budapest memorandum, which was from the 90s, from a time before the Bucharest summit, before the Munich speech and perhaps crucially before the maidan. A...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    So there is no treaty, there is nothing put to paper you can point towards. Putin should have just "trusted them bro". In other words, you got nothing. Except petty little insults about "whittle...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    You spoke of liberal humanism, being able to say what you are allowed to say on those "somewhat free platforms" where you are little else than a digital serf does not exactly promote either. And...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    Then I suppose you won't have a problem pointing me towards the NATO treaty changes that say this. Which article is it? Is there one? Because you will recall that Putin was asking for a treaty as...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    The same Obama who was not president during the time in question and as such his elaborations matter little?

    And yet it is the other side that has openly admitted to trickery. The mental...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    What conflict requirements of NATO?

    Another dodge. The Minsk agreements were mediated by the west, what if they didn't sign it? Plus leveling your accusations of trickery squarely at Russia,...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    Yes and escape the tragic situation they were in. Even Russia apparently toyed with the idea of joining NATO. Of course the US were more interested in humiliating their old opponent than...
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