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So, since the transponder was on it was not a NATO mission? ;)



Honestly I cannot figure out what you are trying to say here.

I do not have anything to salvage. You claimed something false and I quote you on it. Scripta manent.
I do not debate the scope of the NATO exercise, again I quote from open sources.
The...

Ok, lets see your posts.
Nebaki said

Then after Alhoons post you said in order to support him

So, YOU said that the incident happened during NATO mission.
Which was the NATO mission?

YOU...

Oh, please quote me saying that you claimed that the incident took place over Slovakia. Word for word I said "Yet Turkey has caused global confusion with it's claim, as many think that the incident...

You might want to check again your own post. You have a link labeled "the NATO webpage on the exercise" linking that incident to that exercise and Nebaki has linked the same page which speaks about a...

Both you (in this post) and Nebaki (in this post) claimed that the incident happened during an exercise that took place in Slovakia. True, I never seen any Turkish official source saying that the...

So, now you do not like the time? It is UTC which makes it around noon local time.
As long as the transponder on the plane is on, the flight can be tracked. Take this Global hawk for example which...

This B52 had taken off from Fairford UK. Had it flown over Slovakia earlier? I can't tell, but I would expect it to be coming in from the North instead of the southwest in that case. What's for sure...

The first link is about what "Turkey says".
The second link says that the B52 was not to be escorted, which btw if it was to be escorted it would be by Greek fighters as it flew over Greek land...

This is pretty much a way for you to say that you have no argument.
The "dilution", you speak about, is the backing of my arguments with actual facts that invalidate your attempt to discredit the...

Yes it has been discussed and your claims were proven false when the actual court decisions were presented, after which point you kept repeating the same false claims, which is really ridiculous.

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None of the conditions that made tribunals to limit the EEZ effects of islands in past cases are present in the Greece-Turkey case.
You still have not elaborate on what you think equity is and why...

Yes and no.
No, because every coastal territory is entitled to an EEZ and continental shelf (CS) to a distance up to 200nm from the baselines (ie the coastline or the straight baselines if they...

No it is not. As I said, an island in the middle of the ocean gets about 430.000 km2 of EEZ, or more depending on it's size. Castellorizo contributes less than 20.000km2 to the based on median line...

One thing to note is that what Greece claims is not what Castellorizo would get being alone in an ocean, ie the full 200nm from it's coasts. That translates to about 430km2 of area. What Greece...

Basically you do not acknowledge the fact that the conditions that sometimes make islands not get the 100% of the EEZ they are entitled (which btw are also applicable to continental land) are not...

I have followed this thread since it was opened. The information that I provided has not been posted before, at least not to that extend, and right after it's posting it was dismissed "just because"....

EEZ is not proportional to population. As I already said, the Colombian islands EEZ was adjusted to reflect the disparity of the relevant coastline lengths. This was done first by constructing the...

Or Spain (EU?) should support Morocco's claims over West Sahara under the condition to control the migrant flows to Canaries and Spain (EU?) in general. It's not that similar things haven't been done...

I explained in an earlier post why the islands got what they got (because of the big disproportionality of relevant coasts length), but I didn't say why they didn't get enclaved as Nicaragua was...

Yes, it does play a role. Every relevant coast adds up to the amount that will be used at the proportionality check.


Adamantas is a city on the island of Milos. If Milos counts or not remains to...

What you say is not exactly what I elaborated above. Lesbos, or any other Greek relevant coastline, has an effect on the decision to reduce Castellorizo's EEZ or not, but not on drawing the starting...

Do you even read what I write? Lesbos is not counted when Castellorizo EEZ is calculated, which calculation is done by building a median line. What I repeat is what courts apply. If there is a big...

I'm not the one invoking the argument of the "longest coast". I explained how it is used in delimitations and how it is irrelevant in the Greek-Turkey case, at least not in the way Turkey uses it....

I told you how relevant coastline affects delimitation which btw is between Greece and Turkey and not the region of Castellorizo and Turkey. Outside of that context the length of Greek or Turkish...

Geographic naming conventions do not affect delimitation at all. Or you can provide an example where it did if you disagree.


In order to understand how the coastline affects maritime...

Which not only is false, regardless of what area it was done in relation with, but also irrelevant as the length of Turkey's coast in the whole of East Med does not affect the maritime zones in the...

She literally debunks the, indeed stupid and irrelevant, Turkish claim of the longest coastline in Eastern Mediterranean. If you don't like it take it to the Turkish MFA that makes such false and...

I read very well what you wrote. I also read the article that said that "Greece has a significantly larger coastline than Turkey, especially in the East Mediterranean", which is correct. The author...

If you are not using the "Eastern Mediterranean" term to also include the Aegean it doesn't mean that others do not or that it is not accurately used that way. The Aegean inclusion in the Eastern...

It is not two areas. It is one continuous area from Thrace to Castellorizo. There is nothing in between. This whole area is in "Eastern Mediterranean". And it is true that the Greek coastline is...

What you quoted says that "Greece has a significantly larger coastline than Turkey, especially in the East Mediterranean" which is true, nothing is implied. It doesn't distinguish Eastern...

What has a NAVTEX got to do with NATO being blackmailed?

https://www.euractiv.com/section/global-europe/news/borissov-meets-erdogan-gets-assurance-bulgarias-border-will-stay-calm/

While Turkish forces claim that they cannot control the migrants on the...

Did you actually watched it?
3:05 She specifically says that as journalists they are not allowed close to the border. Videos used that are on the borderline are made by migrants. Youtube has plenty...

At what point I said there is a -small even- no mans land? There is none. Stop reproducing what stupid journalists are saying. There is no "no-mans-land between the two nations". What the article...

Well... actually there is not a no-mans-land.

All of the above are mistaken, and probably an error copied from each other. There is not a "no man's land" between Greek and Turkish border.
At the crossings there is space between the customs...

There is no such thing as a 'no mans land' at the border area. The border is a single line separating Greece and Turkey.

Why would ELDYK leave? It's presence in Cyprus is because of the treaty of Alliance as was the Turkish contingent up to 1974.