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    Re: Iberian Linen armor

    I don’t think flexibility is a question that can answered. I’m perplexed that they decided to make the armor on so many Iberian units look so much like leather (and without pteruges). As far as I am...
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    Re: Celtic Linothorax

    Resurrecting another dead armor thread. Bear with me. The reason I felt compelled is I found this statue.

    https://imgur.com/Vy2knSi.

    I found it here:...
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    Re: Iberian Linen armor

    Resurrecting a long deceased thread with a new picture. I'm guessing the EB team already knows about it, but I think it's kind of interesting and it wasn't included earlier in this thread.
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  4. Re: On leather musculated cuirasse and other things.

    Hold up.

    I said I was done, but you I feel you are ignoring very important issues. I believe you are giving extreme leeway to leather armor that you didn't to linen for whatever the reason.
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  5. Re: On leather musculated cuirasse and other things.

    Your talking as if I said color could be used to determine material, which I don’t remember saying. I pointed out that modes other than vases might depict more accurate coloration. That’s it.

    I...
  6. Re: On leather musculated cuirasse and other things.

    I know nothing about Greek poetry or language, but I wouldn't think that linen armor would be a figure of speech or anything. It would be an especially weird figure of speech if it wasn't based on...
  7. Re: On leather musculated cuirasse and other things.

    I think your list is missing a bit.

    Leather: Starting with leather since to establish material. No evidence except for the Pollux's definition of Xenophon's spolas. One question I have is on the...
  8. Re: On leather musculated cuirasse and other things.

    Not saying bitumen and pitch would have been used. The reason Aldrete brings it up is to show that the ancients would was to show that such strong glues existed. Also, we don't know how they would...
  9. Re: On leather musculated cuirasse and other things.

    I said linen was an everyday material, not that it was the only material or basic material for everything. My exact words were "Linen was probably an everyday fabric for people then". Nothing was...
  10. Re: On leather musculated cuirasse and other things.

    On the whole wool thing, I think you are missing the point. To all those statements about wool, that's great, but that doesn't mean linen wasn't used. I have no idea why you said "Flax was cultivated...
  11. Re: On leather musculated cuirasse and other things.

    Are you kidding? Of course linen was an everyday fabric, and was better for wearing in hot climates. Wool was used, but to say linen wasn't is so bizarre. I'd bet in all the times and places you are...
  12. Re: On leather musculated cuirasse and other things.

    I'm sure you've heard of Aldrete's book on the Linothorax. The RomanArmyTalk folk hate it since the reconstructions are glued linen, more on that in a minute. I know you aren't a fan of glued linen...
  13. Re: On leather musculated cuirasse and other things.

    1. I don't know of any evidence for leather muscle cuirass.

    2. I have no idea how popular mail armor was, but the only depiction I know of is the funerary stele of Salmamodes. Perhaps it is...
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    Re: Recruitment suggestions

    Balearic slingers: I tried to avoid the confusion, I'm not talking about the stand in for the Ligurian slingers. I'm talking about the large number of recruitable Balearic slingers, especially in...
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    Re: Recruitment suggestions

    Jervaj, I understand this is going beyond what they achieved historically, but it is meant to have a historical base. Liby-Phoenicians aren’t well recorded, and a lot is speculative. From what is...
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    Recruitment suggestions

    As of now (2.35), there are some units that probably have too much recruitment, which might pose problems for accuracy or gameplay in general. This list probably doesn't cover all of them (mainly...
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    Sticky: Re: [Feedback] Questions, Critiques and Requests for 1.2

    I’m not sure if this has already been pointed out, but a few units draw from weird populations. From my recent campaigns are the Medewi two handed axemen drawing from the 3rd population class (this...
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    Re: Where is the settlement Ragae?

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?780830-Where-is-Rhagae&p=15559847

    I googled "Europos Media Rhagiana" to find more information about it and found this. I guess history does really...
  19. Thread: Scutarii armor

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    Re: Scutarii armor

    Thanks Trarco! Sorry to pester you with so many questions. You and the rest of the team are doing great and I can't wait to see what is next!
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    Re: Scutarii armor

    I don't see the problem with having one unit representing more native influence.

    My question for that is will it change recruitment? For example, will only foreign powers like Carthage and Rome be...
  21. Thread: Scutarii armor

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    Re: Scutarii armor

    How does the vase of Llíria translate into the Scutarii armor? It doesn't look like it. To be fair, the armor on the vase of Llíria doesn't look like anything known anyways.

    On another topic, why...
  22. Thread: Scutarii armor

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    Re: Scutarii armor

    Thanks Trarco! That makes sense. If this is the vase (crátera de la monomaquia de Libisosa) you are talking about (https://imgur.com/a/FeJVIph), I really think it looks like just a stylized...
  23. Thread: Scutarii armor

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    Scutarii armor

    https://imgur.com/a/3kROuOs

    I've noticed that the new "Scutarii" units have very different armors. The sword unit appears to have mail and the standard looking linothorax. The spear unit appears...
  24. Re: Future update Carthage Questions and Suggestions

    You're right in that this would be based on a number of assumptions that might not be accurate for all Phoenicians, but that is a little unfair to say that for one unit. Many if not most of the units...
  25. Re: Future update Carthage Questions and Suggestions

    Trarco, Jervaj is right on what I meant. I'm saying the Carthaginian citizen levies should just have the name changed to be Phoenician levies, that way they can be used for any of the colonies. The...
  26. Re: Future update Carthage Questions and Suggestions

    Thanks for clearing up the other stuff.

    As for the militia, as I said, they get beat in stats by the Libyans. I also said they would be called up to fight in emergencies. If we are to believe...
  27. Re: Future update Carthage Questions and Suggestions

    As far as I've seen, no "scutarii" units have been featured in the twitter updates. I think they are still on the to do list since they have scale armor which I think Trarco has said doesn't have any...
  28. Future update Carthage Questions and Suggestions

    I recently saw that the Carthaginian Noble Cavalry are going to be removed. This makes sense, and it frees up a unit slot to use elsewhere. I also noticed that the Libyan cavalry is getting armor. I...
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    Re: Linen or leather?

    I just noticed that the Dacian Elite Skirmishers have "studded leather" in their unit description. I'm guessing that it's a holdover from EB 1, as none of the men in the unit have anything like it...
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    Re: Linen or leather?

    I know EB1 doesn't really matter much for anything in EB2, but I've noticed that a lot of descriptions in EB1 have say linen, or in some units like hoplites they leave it vague by saying "linen or...
  31. Poll: Re: [30th Faction slot] What would you like to see?

    This thread says it’s for a 30th faction slot, but isn’t the 29th also open? Have you guys found a faction for it?

    As for this discussion I went for new faction, but any choice the EB team makes...
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    Linen or leather?

    This is always a classic mess, on whether the "tube and yolk" cuirass is made of linen or leather. The reason I bring this up here is because EB is a bit inconsistent in the unit descriptions. Most...
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    Re: Payadag i Kardakan weak?

    The Kardakan still seem under-statted. Semi professional overhand have an attack of 7, and the Slavic raider/semiprofessional (Voini I think) have an attack of 5. I haven’t checked their morale...
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    Payadag i Kardakan weak?

    I've noticed that the Payadag i Kardakan seem to be worse than the regular Iranian spearmen in almost every way. I haven't played too deeply into eastern campaigns, but aren't they a reform unit?...
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    Sticky: Re: Europa Barbarorum 1.33 Sneak Preview

    I have a couple of questions.

    1. Will most AOR units finally be available to all factions? For example, even if I had a client state I could never recruit Celtiberian heavy infantry as Carthage....
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    Re: Some slinger unit questions

    It’s certainly doable with the shield they have. I think the Talmes have the shield all of the time as well. But I don’t know why that would be brought up, since the shield they use is small. All you...
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    Re: Some slinger unit questions

    Thanks. Do you know if that’s intentional? That seems like a bug.
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    Re: Some slinger unit questions

    Huh. That’s kind of weird, as I would think they would be important for defending hillforts. The riders reform also pops up after roughly only 20 years, so I wonder why slingers would just pop up...
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    Re: Some slinger unit questions

    Anyways, we should probably address the initial questions. I would love this discussion, but as I said earlier, it needs a different thread. This one was for those gameplay related questions.
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    Re: Some slinger unit questions

    Neyak, it still sounds like you are thinking about rotations. That high launch speed, which you said something like 10 rotations per second, doesn’t make sense to me. The rotating just makes sure the...
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