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  1. Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    What I can't understand is why now? The EU election results will arrive on Monday. Parliament is supposed to enter recess next week and we may well have a reliable exit poll for the UK results by...
  2. Re: Game of Thrones: TV Series - Season 8 (Book spoilers in tags with warning)

    Am I really 'going out of my way'? Is it such a stretch to posit that a military leader might at times disagree with their own advisors and commit an act of mass murder in order to achieve his/her...
  3. Re: ''Diversity'' and ''Inclusion'' in the UK: the rise of the Racist White Liberals

    I never said it did. I just dislike the way that immigration is presented by right wingers - as if a load of totally unknown foreign interlopers just suddenly decided to pile into a formerly peaceful...
  4. Re: Game of Thrones: TV Series - Season 8 (Book spoilers in tags with warning)

    Daenarys never actually accepted the murder of her mad father as being a legitimate act, and also never accepted that Jon was the rightful heir to the throne, proving that she values power over...
  5. Re: ''Diversity'' and ''Inclusion'' in the UK: the rise of the Racist White Liberals

    It's frequently noted by liberals that countries like Pakistan, Jamaica and so on which contributed a lot of immigrants to the UK, were at one point dominated and badly brutalised by the British....
  6. Re: Game of Thrones: TV Series - Season 8 (Book spoilers in tags with warning)

    And all of that was ultimately in the service of one thing, her overriding ambition to rule the Seven Kingdoms and avenge the death of her father at the hands of the Lannisters. If she had simply...
  7. Re: Game of Thrones: TV Series - Season 8 (Book spoilers in tags with warning)

    There seems to be a lot of hate on the Bells. The flaws in the literary aspects of the episode, such as character development and thematic consistency, are not of much interest to me, simply because...
  8. Re: Notre-Dame de Paris is on fire and burning to the ground

    Reports coming in that the structure of the building has probably been saved by firefighters which is a blessing, although the spire has already collapsed. A firefighter has also been hurt. Shocking...
  9. Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    For anyone wondering what the current options are, in today's vote... wow, this stuff is complicated, but this is my best shot at summarising:

    Customs Union (Turkish Model)
    - No tariffs on goods...
  10. Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    There's a rumour that Tory MPs are being sent for a 'tutorial' explaining what the customs union is ahead of Monday, since it's got to the point where interviews with them are just political...
  11. Re: Third World Immigration and its Effects on Western Societies - the great debate of our time

    Why would you say that this culture (I guess you mean Muslims) was 'fundamentally hostile'? This is not my experience of most Muslims and I think you need to back up an assertion like that. A lot of...
  12. Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    What does May think is going to happen if her vote actually passes? Does she think it will be some great victory and she'll be paraded down the streets lined with cheering crowds? Right now,...
  13. Re: Third World Immigration and its Effects on Western Societies - the great debate of our time

    This gets to the crux of the matter. Society is so polarised that, rather than rejecting fringe extremists, we've now somehow created a situation where fringe extremists are embraced by the relative...
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    Re: It just went down in New Zealand

    How is it a crime? It's not against the law of my country or of your country to refuse to fight for Assad. Unless you're suggesting the laws of a tyrannical regime in the Middle East have currency in...
  15. Third World Immigration and its Effects on Western Societies - the great debate of our time

    The Political Mudpit is always full of flamewars about this topic, in threads often related to terrorist incidents and other such tragedies. I'd like to have a frank discussion about this in which...
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    Re: It just went down in New Zealand

    You say 'deserter' as if it's some kind of insult. :laughter: In what universe is refusing conscription by a tyrannical ruler a bad thing? Imagine WW2 was still on and we had refugees coming from...
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    Re: It just went down in New Zealand

    'Often'? We've had precisely 4 major terror attacks since the beginning of the millenium in the UK. How many has the US had? Orlando, San Bernardino, the Sikh Temple, the Synagogue, and that's just...
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    Re: It just went down in New Zealand

    The Scots LOVE the Irish, they're our closest cousins. Yes, all those groups have had problems in the past, because of historical conflicts. But today the enmity is 99% vanished. Because when people...
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    Re: It just went down in New Zealand

    Extremists exist in all religions, it's a matter of interpretation. And most Muslims do not interpret their religion in that way (not least because it's hard to interpret something being explicitly...
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    Re: It just went down in New Zealand

    The Roman Empire was relatively peaceful by the standards of the day. But by modern standards it would not be considered a peaceful region of the world. The world was a different place back then,...
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    Re: It just went down in New Zealand

    The peoples of the Balkans have lived there for 1000 years. They had if anything LESS conflicts than people in other regions of Europe until the mid 1800s, followed by a period of relative peace...
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    Re: It just went down in New Zealand

    His manifesto and subsequent actions were directed towards a multifaceted global audience. The media, alt-right trolls, Far Right white supremacists, and anyone who spends a lot of time on the...
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    Re: It just went down in New Zealand

    Does it shock you, though? Anyone who has been on /pol/, /b/, or really anywhere on the chans and the right wing parts of Reddit etc, knows that there are thousands if not tens of thousands of...
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    Re: It just went down in New Zealand

    My condolences to your community. First the earthquake and now this - Christchurch truly has been through more than its fair share of internationally famous tragedies, for somewhere which by rights...
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    Re: It just went down in New Zealand

    Never. But when has that accusation been made? All the time, by members of the far right, including some on this forum, when the terrorists are Muslim. We can now add New Zealand to the list,...
  26. Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    So after all the chaos and Mayhem, we're pretty much back where we started at the beginning of the week. Waiting for another meaningful vote, the likely failure of which will still leave everything...
  27. Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    That seems impossible to me, because if we need a long extension it will be precisely because we DON'T have a consensus on anything. For a long extension to come to passs, there would need to be a...
  28. Re: The double standards of progressives in the West

    Hardline conservative Christianity is absolutely seen as regressive and harmful. Liberal Christianity is seen (by anyone who knows anything at all about it, which admittedly excludes a lot of young...
  29. Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    I'm going to respectfully disagree with you Dante, and here's why: the simple fact is, there is only one way out of a No Deal Brexit, and that is the British parliament deciding collectively on an...
  30. Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    The EU are not 'forcing' Tory rebels to do anything. They CHOOSE to refuse to vote for their own leader's deal, which became necessary due to their OWN failures under the leadership of David Davis...
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    Re: "Gilets jaunes" protests in France.

    It's a well-known phenomenon that once civic disorder reaches a critical mass, idiots figure that the police can't arrest everyone and so they are free to loot and burn stuff with impunity (not that...
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    Re: The Russia and Ukraine thread

    If you constantly work to expand your influence and project power further and further outwards, including in countries you don't share a border with, and keep building up your military and civilian...
  33. Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    Because they were a single issue party who's single issue was achieved, or so they thought. If it turns out Brexit is essentially not happening then get ready to see the meteoric rise of either UKIP...
  34. Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    Until such a time as a new referendum is held, the public mandate is a 2% majority for Leave. People may be changing their opinions, but until they have written down their opinion on a piece of paper...
  35. Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    They can't 'call off' Brexit, considering a majority of Brits voted for it. If they did, we might well end up with UKIP winning the next general election in the worst case scenario. If you think the...
  36. Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    Theresa May may look vulnerable but actually she's being pretty smart about this - the only way a no confidence motion would be triggered is if it's thought there's a reasonable chance of winning it...
  37. Re: New Caledonai Referendum: The (French) Empire strikes back?

    It's ridiculous that France still maintains an empire in the 21st century. It's not surprising that people there mostly want to stay part of France given most of their jobs probably depend on French...
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    Re: Angela Merkel Will Step Down in 2021

    How would you have preferred Germany to deal with the financial crisis, the Eurozone crisis and the migrant crisis? I'd say she dealt with them all exceedingly well - Germany's economy was not hit...
  39. Re: Mass Shooting at a US synagogue (Pittsburgh, PA)

    An incentive which doesn't work all too well considering 30% of men refuse to wear a condom on principle because it 'feels worse'. Source.



    The law of unintended consequences is a :wub:. Women...
  40. Re: Mass Shooting at a US synagogue (Pittsburgh, PA)

    Continuing briefly on the same irrelevant tangent, but since when do those things reduce the amount of single mothers? In my experience they do the exact opposite. When left wing guys get a girl...
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