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  1. Re: Historical Question regarding panoply of Thureophoroi/Thorakitai.

    Plutarch uses the adverb πόρρωθεν, meaning specifically "from afar":
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    Re: EB-Twitter updates Discussion

    Currently Pahlava doesn't really have the final BG unit, nor are there the Aparna/Parni nobles in-game yet. The current unit was given cata models, for the reasons given by Baktra above...
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  3. Re: Bronze versus Iron: why do some troops still only have bronze helmets, armor and not a mixture of the two?

    The Hellenistic period can hardly be compared to the logistics and possibilities of the marching army of Alexandros. It nevertheless highlights the desire by a Hellenistic commander to have his...
  4. Re: Bronze versus Iron: why do some troops still only have bronze helmets, armor and not a mixture of the two?

    The key is that Thraikes serving away wear armour, because they buy it or are furnished it by the Hellenistic workshops...

    Anyway I never said that regular infantry in Thraike didn't wear...
  5. Re: Bronze versus Iron: why do some troops still only have bronze helmets, armor and not a mixture of the two?

    That's not what I said, my point being they'd be interested in spending their earned cash on something else more often than not. To be a warrior doesn't require them to be heavily armoured. Indeed...
  6. Re: Bronze versus Iron: why do some troops still only have bronze helmets, armor and not a mixture of the two?

    Gah, why no edit posts? XD

    Thanks for the screenshot, do note they are talking about cavalry armour only. Not general infantrymen...
  7. Re: Bronze versus Iron: why do some troops still only have bronze helmets, armor and not a mixture of the two?

    Yeah, companions was picked from the Persians (indeed immortals might have been a corruption of their real meaning), but that doesn't mean that off the bat Hetairoi were the same as later. Indeed...
  8. Re: Bronze versus Iron: why do some troops still only have bronze helmets, armor and not a mixture of the two?

    Sorry, but of those passages only one speaks of armour as their equipment, and it is Xenophon, which speaks only of tois hoplois, their equipment, not specifying whether it is a cuirass, a linothorax...
  9. Re: Bronze versus Iron: why do some troops still only have bronze helmets, armor and not a mixture of the two?

    Thanks for the direct link, already tried that myself, and even with this one I can only view the snippet with says nothing basically...

    The point is that those weren't Hetairoi in any way, in...
  10. Re: Bronze versus Iron: why do some troops still only have bronze helmets, armor and not a mixture of the two?

    Maybe it is the regional IP with Google books, but that page is obscured for me...

    And yes of course things aren't static, and thankfully so, but for the moment lacking new evidences (and consider...
  11. Re: Bronze versus Iron: why do some troops still only have bronze helmets, armor and not a mixture of the two?

    Split hairs as you like, but Thraikian aristocracy concentrated wealth and monopolised it. Indeed only the royal tribe of the Udrusai/Odrysai could ever field heavy cavalry and the vast majority of...
  12. Re: Bronze versus Iron: why do some troops still only have bronze helmets, armor and not a mixture of the two?

    Have ever even seen those composite armours? They are almost on par on the Vergina burial armour. That's not stuff that anyone can afford...
    Not to mention that to imagine Thraikian native infantry...
  13. Re: Bronze versus Iron: why do some troops still only have bronze helmets, armor and not a mixture of the two?

    I never even hinted that, but if you on the other hand consider those composite bronze/iron and leather armours to have been available to anyone, then you are mistaken...

    And really Lund is a...
  14. Re: Bronze versus Iron: why do some troops still only have bronze helmets, armor and not a mixture of the two?

    Specifically about Thraikian weaponry and equipment I'd advise checking Christopher Webber's books and articles. There are other finds of composite body armour, but always in royal burials. Helmets...
  15. Re: Any of these factions identifiable with later people groups?

    Moros is the specialist for the Arabian Peninsula, but yes afaik both the Ghassanids and Lakhmids descended from clans that emigrated from Southern Arabia, modern Yemen, so they'd be related to the...
  16. Re: Bronze versus Iron: why do some troops still only have bronze helmets, armor and not a mixture of the two?

    Thraike is one of the few places where tin and copper can be found, being mined since very early on (already in the Chalcolithic I believe). While more Hellenising Thraikian units mostly represent...
  17. Re: Bronze versus Iron: why do some troops still only have bronze helmets, armor and not a mixture of the two?

    Can check "The prehistory of metallurgy in the British Isles" by R.F. Tylecote, "Bronze Age Military Equipment" by Dan Howard and "The bronze Italian helmet : the development of the Cassis from the...
  18. Re: Any of these factions identifiable with later people groups?

    Ethnically that is true, to some extent (let's remember that confederations, especially tribal, were often polyethnic). However there are theories holding that Sauromatian leading aristocracies came...
  19. Re: Any of these factions identifiable with later people groups?

    That is just a coincidence and the two words have nothing to do with one another. Parash being a Semitic word for horse, while Parsa is first of all an Iranian word, and not Semitic (which isn't even...
  20. Re: Any of these factions identifiable with later people groups?

    To expand, Parthava existed already during the Hakhamanishiya (Achaemenid) period, it was first and foremost a geographical territory. The fall of the Persian empire and the later advent of the...
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    Sticky: Re: Europa Barbarorum Bibliography

    Haven't read the new book by Grainger, but his other book "Rome, Parthia and India: The Violent Emergence of a New World Order 150-140 BC" does cover how the last dynastic crisis came to be in Syria...
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