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  1. Re: Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.

    It's impressive the amount of conflicting views you think "socialists" hold.
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    Re: Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.

    You think the conventional definition accurate describes the priorities and goals of the Nazi party?

    I don't think I have heard anyone other than you call the economic policies of the USSR and...
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    Re: Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.

    One would hope the government is representative of the will of the people.


    Well yeah, if you look at like, Communist rhetoric, the economic principles are the social goals. That doesn't have to...
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    Re: Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.

    Ugh, yes I am familiar with FA Hayek and the Road to Serfdom. My relationship with Hayek's works is complicated, but suffice it to say that he isn't talking about Socialism in the way we (or rather,...
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    Re: Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.

    Very interesting choice of imagery to use, but you can't actually produce anything academic as to the Nazi party being Marxist or socialist; just your weird partisan conjecture. Even for...
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    Re: Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.

    I don't think Marx or Engels knew about Hitler even existing. But no, anything that is "against Capitalism" isn't automatically Socialist and Hitler repudiated Marx (you know, a Jew) on multiple...
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    Re: Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.

    No? I am talking about the literal concept of Socialism, not whatever "gotcha" point you think you have.

    Or, if we want to cut the crap we can just get to quoting Hitler himself:


    "Socialism"...
  8. Re: Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.

    Governments?



    :laughter:

    You may want a few econ/history lessons (you know, from educators rather than youtube pundits); Nazis did not push for collective worker ownership of the means of...
  9. Re: Same-sex marriage and abortion to be made legal in Northern Ireland.

    Maybe it is different in the UK, but here in the US, anti-abortion opinions are heavily correlated with being against sex education in public school (or push for "abstinence-only education" which is...
  10. Re: Same-sex marriage and abortion to be made legal in Northern Ireland.

    I would imagine the goal of pro-lifers, much like the goal of law enforcement in general, is to reduce the harm of something that happens. There are simple means to reduce abortion rates (way more...
  11. Re: Same-sex marriage and abortion to be made legal in Northern Ireland.

    :laughter:
    Should have seen that coming. Very mature.

    There is a thread in the ethos forum if you want to debate the morality of abortion rather than throw around truncated schoolyard responses.
  12. Re: Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.

    https://i.imgflip.com/3e5lyh.jpg
  13. Re: Same-sex marriage and abortion to be made legal in Northern Ireland.

    I have little interest in "arguing" with you on whether a choice to end a pregnancy is tantamount to murdering a baby. I am sure it would be a fruitless conversation, as so many have been in the...
  14. Re: Same-sex marriage and abortion to be made legal in Northern Ireland.

    TF are you talking about "enormous welfare programs"? Try some simple proven :wub: like sex education and access to birth control. Less "oops" pregnancies=less demand for abortion.

    It's weird you...
  15. Re: Same-sex marriage and abortion to be made legal in Northern Ireland.

    I don't think I ever quite bought the idea that the majority of opposition do so because they believe it is literally tantamount to baby murder. In the US at least, this belief would entice pro-life...
  16. Re: US House Speaker Announces Formal Impeachment Inquiry

    Nope.
  17. Re: A key witness in ex-cop Amber Guyger's murder trial was shot to death in Dallas

    Go on, tough guy, show some stats on the failed State-ness of California. Things to check would be employment rates, crime rates, etc; not an article about a tent city or poop in San Francisco.
  18. Re: US House Speaker Announces Formal Impeachment Inquiry

    Don't forget to put your reading glasses on.

    Nope.

    Wasn't talking about Obama or Quid Pro Quos, was talking about soliciting foreign governments to aid your political campaign.
  19. Re: US House Speaker Announces Formal Impeachment Inquiry

    It's not a trial in a traditional sense. The houses of Congress set their own rules to determine if the POTUS should be removed from office, ostensibly for violating his office or abusing his power....
  20. Re: US House Speaker Announces Formal Impeachment Inquiry

    Well no, I wouldn't expect SCOTUS to side with Trump on that, though they could do bupkis about removing Trump from office (and I would be shocked to see them say that a "national emergency" declared...
  21. Re: US House Speaker Announces Formal Impeachment Inquiry

    We've seen it happen with other governments.

    Idk, if I genuinely believed a shadow government was literally fabricating evidence to overthrow a justly elected POTUS, I would probably support some...
  22. Re: US House Speaker Announces Formal Impeachment Inquiry

    You may want to keep up, goalpost-runner McGee, the unprecedented part was: "Historians, diplomats, and former White House officials of both parties have said that it was unprecedented for a U.S....
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    Re: Catalonia Revisited

    Surely the bar for unilateral secession should be pretty high. Like, the Baltic moves to independence in 89-90 were pretty convincing.
  24. Re: Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.

    Impossible, "religion" doesn't have an airtight definition itself. That doesn't mean it is pretty damn easy to draw a distinction between the two. "Life" also doesn't have an airtight definition, but...
  25. Re: US House Speaker Announces Formal Impeachment Inquiry

    https://media.tenor.com/images/2672a2395ef37486b779fa43cd10b16b/tenor.gif
    The Controversy


    I have never heard of a historic example of what Trump did here.


    :laughter:
    The faux concern is...
  26. Re: Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.

    Wait, do you not see the difference between laying the culpability of terrorism on a political ideology and an entire religion?
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    Re: Is it Game Over on the climate front?

    @Efail

    On topic question: what is your view on the IPCC reports and findings?
  28. Re: US House Speaker Announces Formal Impeachment Inquiry

    Not when it is about a campaign opponent, he's not, for reasons I hoped would be obvious. That's why, you know, former Presidents didn't do this. I guess Trump is just that good at 3D chess?

    Not...
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    Re: Is it Game Over on the climate front?

    Because I am not sure (or confident) in what you count as "popularizing" an already existent and applicable term.


    I don't think he said that the political right was uniquely susceptible in that...
  30. Re: What if the world treated the U.S. like a rogue state?

    Really.

    Not sure what you mean by "the way American police are allowed to", but Chinese authorities are certainly "allowed" to shoot their citizens on the streets or, presumably, in their homes....
  31. Re: What if the world treated the U.S. like a rogue state?

    You may want to take another look at CCP policy in the Xinjiang and Tibet provinces. It would make a Dixiecrat blush.
  32. Re: What if the world treated the U.S. like a rogue state?

    I am an economist, and any decent economist would not expect an economic growth rate to remain constant. It would be impossible for it to do so. I don't know what the Purchasing Power Parity has to...
  33. Re: What if the world treated the U.S. like a rogue state?

    What do you mean? US GDP is about a quarter of worldwide GDP; China is about 15%. If I could only have access to one market, I would choose the US market.
  34. Re: ''Diversity'' and ''Inclusion'' in the UK: the rise of the Racist White Liberals

    No? I was saying that MLK jr. was not against affirmative action, which Aexodeus seems to consider to be discriminatory.
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    Re: Is it Game Over on the climate front?

    I never claimed you said "CNN invented the term".


    I don't think myself, BW, HH, or Irontaino mentioned Buzzfeed or Salon here. HH and BW were clearly comparing CNN and MSNBC to Breitbart; do you...
  36. Re: ''Diversity'' and ''Inclusion'' in the UK: the rise of the Racist White Liberals

    If you want to call MLK jr. a hypocrite, that's one thing, but don't inappropriately evoke his views.
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    Re: Is it Game Over on the climate front?

    EDIT: double post.
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    Re: Is it Game Over on the climate front?

    The term "fake news" predates that, I assure you. And, at the time you are mentioning, it refereed to literally fabricated stories, not ones that were controversial in nature. Pizzagate would be a...
  39. Re: ''Diversity'' and ''Inclusion'' in the UK: the rise of the Racist White Liberals

    Do you think Martin Luther King was against Affirmative Action?
  40. Re: Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.

    Really, it was the call for a new Augustus the piqued my interests there; as well as a call for a "revolution" which I would think you mean a traditionalist one (a revolution to "take us back to the...
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