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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    I never knew that the catholic priest cared much for the gender. They seem to be equal gender opportunists when telling kids stuff like that.
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    Wasn't there a part of Putin also going that it was Polands fault the Nazis invaded in 1939. I guess it is hard for him to argue otherwise when he himself is using just as laughable pretenses to...
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    Re: Hamas attacks southern Israel

    If Israel would be as bad as Hamas, they would go room to room and kill,torture or kidnap everyone.
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    I didn't minimize it, just pointed out that the number of organizations is irrelevant. Heck if anything I pointed out that one was seen as so dangerous that it and its symbols use was banned in my...
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    Calling those groups in the list parties is quite erhm, misleading. Doubt most of them have any political power. For example of the 3 groups in Finland of that list: 1 I've never heard of, one is...
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    Of course people would be worried when others say things like it. However please note that you are straying quite far into the realm of whataboutism.
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    Not everyone does wars of conquest. So no everyone does not do that.
    For the west the resources put into propping up Ukraine is peanuts for the size of the economy of the west. You could argue that...
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    Considering the proliferation of different Isalmist/Jihadist groups during the last half century that sounds like a gross oversimplication of how and why Hamas exists. It doesn't take Israeli policy...
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    All the talking points, :wub:ing hilarious! :laughter::rofls::laughter:
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    I pretty much agree on most points. I do however feel for all civilian casualties. There is ofcourse a bit less sympathy for the tacit approval of Hamas terrorist actions by the civilians in Gaza as...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    Russian minimum requirements for a negotiation is that the reqions Russia "annexed" are given over to them, which is equivelent to a Ukrainian surrender. There is no negotiated settlement on the...
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    I'm sure a ceasefire would be possible if Hamas gave up its leadership involved in the 7 October attacks, and released all hostages. But I doubt people screaming at Israel to stop is going to think...
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    With which you implied that the blame for the war starting was somehow unclear/shared. Which is laughable.
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    Oh yes, I clearly missunderstood. Because we live in the "real world" we have to reward imperialist countries when they fail to achieve their goals. Otherwise we are cleary inviting doom and...
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    One of these countries is a facist imperialist country with aggressive, territorial ambitions. The other didn't even have a fully funtional army in 2014. There is only really one logical choice in...
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    Russia has a tendency to blame wars on everyone else and wars of conquest are purely defensive(don't you know).
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    Didn't know he was one. Thank you for the information.
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    EDIT: NVM
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    Morality isn't dependent on Religion, Harris like myself is an atheist. All religions because of their in-/outgroup dynamic is likely to in some form at some point lead to violence. There are degrees...
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    Regarding Moral equivalence I found Sam Harris quite clear on the issue:

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    Society still has responsibility for what they do under a leader, even if that leader orginally came from a different country. There is a reason Germans were held resposible for what they did under...
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    And Hitler was Austrian. Your point is?
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    Their society has never had to make peace with its past. So the society at large still holds deeply imperialistic views that justify any wrongdoings as being in the service of the "great" Russian...
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    I don't much like to wade in through the swamp that is the middle east. However it should be clear that Hamas are pure evil, terrorists who use civilians as human shield and point blank murders...
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    The gas pipeline between Finland and Estonia has been damaged.

    https://yle.fi/a/74-20054419



    Russia seems to want to escalate things.

    Edit: Also the data cabel between Finland and...
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    Well ofcourse there is a difference. There is also a difference in making new tanks and airplanes and reactivating old ones. Or trying to buy ammunition of questinable quality to supplant diminish...
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    I'm not convinced allies would stop supporting, a few maybe, but not all. Manpower, I haven't seen any indication that is the case.

    However your theory relies on Russia having "unlimited resource"...
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    Hate is a strong word. Doubt most finns "hate" Russians, distrusted the Kremlin, sure. Most Finns would rather have a stable, non-imperialistic neighbour. However that is not the reality we have...
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    Re: NATO: Turkey vs. Sweden/Finland

    What is the point of speculating? There is no indication of any demands even behind closed doors by Hungary all they have done is publicly tie their ratification to Turkey's.
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    Hey Satiro how is that great offensive that would sweep the defeated Ukrainians before them going? Still going strong? Closer to Kiev now?
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    Re: NATO: Turkey vs. Sweden/Finland

    So you understand what I have to say, but you think that Hungary actually won't ratify Sweden's bid if Turkey is going to ratify? Or do you think Turkey's ratification would proceed if Hungary would...
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    Re: NATO: Turkey vs. Sweden/Finland

    Let me put this simpler for you.

    Persuade Turkey to ratify -> both Hungary and Turkey ratifies.
    Persuade Hungary to ratify - Turkey still does not rafify ->back to pesruading Turkey to ratifiy.
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    The thing is, your continued taking up of Hungary is exactly the type of support Hungray is porviding Turkey on this issue. Another thing to deflect to, when you havea hard time to motivate why...
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    Re: NATO: Turkey vs. Sweden/Finland

    Look whatever way you look at it the only real opposition is by Turkey and it has now clearly been tied to the US and any reasonings about PKK in Sweden are just excuses while the real reason has and...
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    Re: NATO: Turkey vs. Sweden/Finland

    Turkey's approval of Swedens bid to join NATO is something that should be between Turkey and Sweden. Turkey deciding that they should include demands on another member of the alliance just goes to...
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    Re: NATO: Turkey vs. Sweden/Finland

    Third party to the approval of Sweden's bid to join. Discrimination? Turkey's own actions are what has caused the distrust by the US to provide the latest arms to them. Might be good to behave like...
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    Re: NATO: Turkey vs. Sweden/Finland

    While "proper" treatment is good and all, Turkey might want to think how their new allies will view them when Turkey is essentially using them as hostages to get something out of a third party. With...
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    Re: NATO: Turkey vs. Sweden/Finland

    To the surprise of noone. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-09-26/erdogan-says-turkey-approval-of-sweden-nato-bid-hinges-on-f-16s#xj4y7vzkg

    So anyone still want to claim that Turkey's...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    https://www.dw.com/en/why-is-poland-no-longer-sending-arms-to-ukraine/a-66889180



    You might want to check for even a short while when sensationalist BS is spread if things are taken a bit too...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    I like how this thread is full of discussion on Mr Marshmellow. Feels like it is more of a distraction from how the "great power" Russia is now resorting to beg for weapons from one of the poorest...
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