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    Re: The crisis in conservatism

    as I said, they don't like tearing down institutions, but it's preferable to the alternative. The institutions does after arise from, and are supported by, the particular morals and norms of a...
  2. Re: How the Far-Right Views the Economy and the Stab-in-the-Back Myth

    ok, then yes mostly.


    regardless, elites exist. in different layers of influence, but they still exist. point is they tilt to the left. do you deny it?
  3. Re: Hungary starts program that pays couples up to 30k to have 3 or more kids.

    This is definitely a better solution that solving the issue with immigration...
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    Re: The crisis in conservatism

    as I said there is a hierarchy of things to protect. It's not that conservatives are thrilled about Trump violating institutions, but it's a price worth paying if he can stabilise another front.....
  5. Re: USA Democratic party 2020 candidates and primaries thread

    I think it's very fitting, that if the USA is going to have it's first female, first non-christian (hindu), and 2nd non white president, it should be someone like Tulsi who doesn't make a big deal...
  6. Re: How the Far-Right Views the Economy and the Stab-in-the-Back Myth

    yes, overwhelmingly, throughout the west, no doubt about it.

    yes, overwhelmingly

    in the west generally, yes mostly. in countries like Sweden, overwhelmingly. even supposedly "conservative"...
  7. Re: How the Far-Right Views the Economy and the Stab-in-the-Back Myth

    ok, well my point is anyhow that an underlying logic does exist. national interests may not exists really, but nationalists atleast think they do and act accordingly. I'm just saying, they are acting...
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    Sticky: Re: Discussion and Debate Community Thread

    1st generation, inclyding both genuine refugees and simply economic migrants, atleast know what bad places their home countries were, and so feel some kind of gratitude, or atleast an appriciation of...
  9. Re: USA Democratic party 2020 candidates and primaries thread

    Same reason only Nixon could go to China. By virtue of being a veteran she does it from a position of strength, no one can credibly accuse her of being "weak" as one can with many othet democrats....
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    Re: Why was Hitler anti-semitic?

    Regarding the Jews, I like what Sam Harris (who is a jew i think) has to say, and I paraphrase:

    The Jews have themselves to blame for much of the persecution against them. christianity offered...
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    no one wanted to actually stay in hungary during the crisis either, just walk though it. but the point is, immigrants can easily be stopped, as hungary (and turkey too) showed. this myth that you...
  12. Re: The latest anti-liberal rant thread (get your daily dose here)

    The side effects are exactly what i'm not ignoring. Following the logic of free trade, portugal would continue to invest in wine production because that's their comparative advantage. If it instead...
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    Sticky: Re: New Report: Immigrants behind majority of crime in Sweden

    utter nonsense. the hungarians have basically stopped all unwanted immigration. how did they manage? magic? no, just a fence and guards, that's all it takes. and will of course.
  14. Re: How the Far-Right Views the Economy and the Stab-in-the-Back Myth

    obviously, the national interest means the interests of most of the nation's citizens. Not literally all of them, as that is as you said impossible since they contradict. But from that, to draw the...
  15. Re: USA Democratic party 2020 candidates and primaries thread

    I really like Gabbard, it's good she got more attention this time and scored good points.
    ryan said goods things too, as did hickenlooper but I sadly don't think either of them are charismatic...
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    Sticky: New Report: Immigrants behind majority of crime in Sweden

    Summary of report:


    Foreigners now commit more crimes in absolute numbers than swedes do. they are behind 58% of crimes.
    The most overrepresented group of all is second generation immigrants....
  17. Re: The latest anti-liberal rant thread (get your daily dose here)

    I am. im also familiar with ricardos argument of comparative advantages, but this argumentation ignores the long term and side effects of specialisation. not all production chains are of equal value....
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    Re: The crisis in conservatism

    conservatism is a mindset, to take things slowly and go forth cautiously, knowing that any :wub: up can have great consequences. if you ask a conservative "hey lets lets import lots of third world...
  19. Re: Stupid liberals let the truth out. Irish central bank: ''we need more immigration to prevent your wages to grow. ''

    The corporations were of course created by the state, since it's the state that is the guarantor of the law, and corporations are simply legal fiction. They were created with a purpose: to facilitate...
  20. Re: Stupid liberals let the truth out. Irish central bank: ''we need more immigration to prevent your wages to grow. ''

    Isn't it global institutions like WTO, EU etc that are responsible for exposing 'the people' to competition from the whole world? Isn't the solution then, rather than to turn to more globalisation,...
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    Re: The crisis in conservatism

    yes it does. A few decades ago the USA was 85+% white, and now in a few decades it will be <50% white. That's unarguably a dramatic shift.


    some people certainly seem very welcome to the...
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    Re: The crisis in conservatism

    there's a hierarchy of institutions/orders to protect. sure, it's not pretty when trump violates institutions and norms, one might even call it revolutionary. But you know what's even more...
  23. Re: How the Far-Right Views the Economy and the Stab-in-the-Back Myth

    That's because it's you, not them, who labeled them as far right and then lumped together different groups. Secondly, the "far right" you seem to be talking about is simply nationalism. Ideologies...
  24. Re: The Democrat betrayal of the working class.

    If it is done at the expense of the natives, then it is. "Traitor" is a strong word, maybe it fits maybe it dont.. but illoyal? yes definitely, what else can one call it? What is the proper term for...
  25. Re: The Democrat betrayal of the working class.

    An interesting observation: What would once have been consider outright treason to the nation, is today perfectly mainstream and even popular. Many, but not all, Democrats are actively supporting...
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    Poll: Re: Should criminal foreigners be deported?

    no i did not read it. It is their choice if they want to come here to work. i view it as them commig here voluntarily, not that we "bring" them here or "use" them. that is misleading words imo.
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    Poll: Re: Should criminal foreigners be deported?

    needless to say I have much to say about this topic, but not in this thread. You can revive this thead...
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    great to hear this, that you acknowledge it is an economic cost. That is a big part of why I am opposed to immigration as we have it, but there are other reasons also. Such as, that refugee...
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    Poll: Re: Should criminal foreigners be deported?

    I actually have more faith in the iraqi and syrian justice system to deliver justice to such foreign terrorists, namely capital punishment. It would be a real travesty if they were sent back to the...
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    Poll: Re: Should criminal foreigners be deported?

    yes.. I said that. read what i write..


    and I don't blame. But it makes them better off, it doesn't make the natives better off, as there's usually a net wealth transfer involved. So...
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    Sticky: Re: Discussion and Debate Community Thread

    its not the imediete collapse of sweden no. but its an economic loss, thats reason enough.


    i know that. i havent claimed immigrants take our jobs. they are so unskilled that tey just end up...
  32. Re: USA Democratic party 2020 candidates and primaries thread

    indeed, one of few cases where they are actually legit victims.

    I dont think it does much good judging islam only by its optimally good side. The islamic conservatives won. all that follows from...
  33. Re: USA Democratic party 2020 candidates and primaries thread

    yes, its quite interesting actually. basically, in earlier days, islam had rival schools of interpretation, some of which were much more tolerant and friendly toward science, which explains their...
  34. Re: Trump, I hear you're a racist..............

    what i mean is, maybe americans wont be see keen on letting in such foreigners when it turns out they just start criticise them? They had no right to come to the US after all, americans allowed them...
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    Poll: Re: Should criminal foreigners be deported?

    that argument is so bad i actually got offended :p population growth does boost absolute gdp, but it lowers gdp per capita, which is the real measure for how well off people are. a country like...
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    you are welcome. I just remembered that Dave Rubin has an interview with Sanandaji, in english of course. I dont remember exactly what they talk about, but probably immigration. check it out.

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  37. Re: USA Democratic party 2020 candidates and primaries thread

    no, they are different in that they literally have different views of how the world works, what god(s) want them to do, how to properly live a life. this matters a lot, specific ideas matter a lot. ...
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    Sticky: Re: Discussion and Debate Community Thread

    of course. tino sanandaji has a lecture with english subs. search youtube "tino sanandaji facts on immigration".
    https://youtu.be/JMt8zkSP9xE

    and here is english summary of a rapport by...
  39. Re: Trump, I hear you're a racist..............

    why cant they be held to a different standard? if they and their family are newcomers, is it not reasonable to expect gratitude and loyalty from them? lets for arguments sake assume they are...
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    this is false, atleast in sweden. second generation is still a net drain. doesnt even look like 3rd generation will make it worthwhile. and if you have to wait that long anyways its clearly not...
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