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    Re: Is there anything left of The Left?

    The issue of authoritarianism is not directly addressed by the left-right dichotomy, but it is assumed that the further to extremes you go the more authoritarianism there will be.
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    Re: Is there anything left of The Left?

    This is the least complicated way of framing the l/r dichotomy as it is generally applied.

    https://i.imgur.com/qxTmGBa.png

    This is the historical/original way of framing it.
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    Re: Is there anything left of The Left?

    My contention is that fascism is a form of right-wing socialism, not that the classification of the NSDAP as fascist is erroneous.
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    Re: Is there anything left of The Left?

    If the "norm" is defined as the tradition which has affected the most people, covered the largest geographical area and had the biggest impact on global history, then it is simply a matter of proper...
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    Re: Is there anything left of The Left?

    This is mostly a verbatim reproduction of your previous posts, so I'll keep my response brief:

    1. Communism (much like National Socialism) is a form of revolutionary socialism molded by Marxist...
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    Re: Is there anything left of The Left?

    I'm not going to respond to this point by point for three reasons: (1) Most of what you've written is a recitation of your previous post; (2) Your insistence on framing socialism in accordance with...
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    Re: Is there anything left of The Left?

    Whether or not conservatism implies an alignment with democratic principles is self-evidently contingent on the context in which the term is used. The same is also true of socialism. As this is an...
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    Re: Is there anything left of The Left?

    Best stick to what people are saying in the thread.



    Fixed that for you.



    Support for "independent unions" is a qualification only for more permissive or tolerant expressions of...
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    Re: Is there anything left of The Left?

    No one is arguing that the inclusion of the word sozialistische in NSDAP necessitated the existence of sozialismus within the party's platform. This is the sort of straw man that tends to crop up in...
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    Re: Is there anything left of The Left?

    This point has already been answered on multiple occasions throughout the thread. The NSDAP's generalized philosophy of "ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer" was expressed through specific redistributive...
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    Re: Is there anything left of The Left?

    I've already provided academic sources which outline the NSDAP's association with socialism here and here.

    If you want a more thorough analysis of the Party's economic platform from 1933 onward,...
  12. Re: Nato alliance experiencing brain death, says Macron

    Macron's attempts to disparage the West's existing defence arrangements (ie. NATO) are designed to build the case for the militarization of the European Union. With the United Kingdom out of the...
  13. Thread: The King...

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    Re: The King...

    This is a point which should have been used to explain Henry's gamble to take the French on rather than allowing his army to be lost to harassment and attrition on a march back to the coast. It...
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    Re: The King...

    Of course there was need for the filmmakers to explain the basis of the war to the audience, but I think that Henry needn't have dismissed the Archbishop's sermonising out of irritated confusion. The...
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    Re: The King...

    The King's bemusement at the Archbishop's discussion of the French succession (as if the son of a usurper and child of the Hundred Years War wouldn't be familiar with such affairs) was totally...
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    Re: The King...

    I enjoyed the tone and aesthetics of the film, but the depiction of the king was peculiar and the battle was disappointing. For some reason the role of the longbowmen was largely ignored and the...
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    Re: Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.

    Anyone who was familiar with Hayek's work (let's drop the act that you've ever read it) would be aware that Serfdom includes a short and unambiguously titled chapter on the NSDAP's socialist roots....
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    Re: Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.

    I'm still seeing no attempt to address the substance of Hayek's arguments (not that you've actually read them). This is just more of the usual hand-waving.



    The fact that all political...
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    Re: Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.

    I countered your ill-informed claim that it would be "absurd" to classify national socialism as socialist by presenting you with a scholarly work which analyses the socialist element of national...
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    Re: Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.

    So begins the hand waving.



    My position has nothing to do with the left-right dichotomy.



    Collectivism is the idea that, as a general principle, communal power ought to be prioritized...
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    Re: Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.

    Fascism is a form of revolutionary collectivism expressed through a nationalist filter; classifying it as a non-inclusive (as opposed to internationalist) variety of socialism is wholly appropriate....
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    Re: Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.

    This is a non sequitur. Arguing that the NSDAP were socialists doesn't necessitate (or even imply) the view that all anti-capitalist positions are socialist. And again, I haven't seen anyone in this...
  23. Poll: Re: USA Democratic party 2020 candidates and primaries thread

    O'Rourke is out.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1190385966621569024
  24. Re: The latest anti-liberal rant thread (get your daily dose here)

    Obama has made similar statements in the past, but these comments are still very welcome. It's high time that we start the process of marginalizing progressive identitarianism and social puritanism. ...
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    Re: Patronus Award

    Opposed.
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    Re: Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.

    No they aren't. The economic principles are designed to facilitate the social objectives. Economic collectivism isn't pursued simply for its own sake.



    The so-called "thousand-year Reich"...
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    Re: Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.

    I like how you try and draw a distinction between "economic principles" and "social goals" as if the former isn't a means to the latter. As I've tried to explain in previous threads, the war itself...
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    Re: Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.

    Then you should be familiar with Hayek's work on Nazism (you did demand a contemporary analysis) which addresses the movement's clear connection with socialism.
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    Re: Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.

    Grammar Nazism, how appropriate. While you're at it, perhaps you can remind The spartan not to capitalize capitalism. :laughter:
  30. Re: Same-sex marriage and abortion to be made legal in Northern Ireland.

    Yeah, because you have no argument.
  31. Re: Same-sex marriage and abortion to be made legal in Northern Ireland.

    There's still no actual argument here. All you're doing is whinging about the supposed bad faith of pro-lifers (as per usual) and making asinine appeals to popularity. Why you even bother to involve...
  32. Re: Same-sex marriage and abortion to be made legal in Northern Ireland.

    > If pro-life advocates don't support enormous welfare programs which would only further encourage rates of single motherhood and state dependency that must mean they don't really care about the...
  33. Re: ''Diversity'' and ''Inclusion'' in the UK: the rise of the Racist White Liberals

    The organization which was responsible for the advertisement (Creative Access) openly promotes affirmative action on its website. Link provide above.
  34. Re: ''Diversity'' and ''Inclusion'' in the UK: the rise of the Racist White Liberals

    As was stated here, there are certain ways in which affirmative action manifests itself in the United Kingdom.

    Here is a legal example of a advertiser offering a paid internship which excludes...
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    Sticky: Re: Discussion and Debate Community Thread

    I don't get it. Which part of the 2d. poster's comment is incorrect?
  36. Re: US House Speaker Announces Formal Impeachment Inquiry

    The "whistleblower" floated the "quid pro quo" theory in his complaint; so far we haven't seen any genuine evidence of it. The Mulvaney comments tell us nothing that wasn't already known. They're...
  37. Re: US House Speaker Announces Formal Impeachment Inquiry

    Mulvaney's comments were clearly with regard to the 2016 election, not Joe Biden. This is from the article:



    The alleged comment that "we [the US] do that [barter] all the time" is...
  38. Re: US House Speaker Announces Formal Impeachment Inquiry

    It has nothing to do with Trump asking Zelensky to "look into" the Bidens. The "hacking" of the DNC server relates to the 2016 election and is an entirely separate matter. The usual suspects are...
  39. Re: US House Speaker Announces Formal Impeachment Inquiry

    The controversy surrounding an alleged "quid pro quo" related to Trump's request that Zelensky "look into" the Bidens. The White House withholding aid on the basis that the Ukrainians weren't turning...
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    Re: Is it Game Over on the climate front?

    The frequency with which the phrase "fake news" was/is used in common parlance dramatically increased after the 2016 election in large part thanks to CNN. Ex. 1, 2 & 3.



    You'd be guessing...
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