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Demon Deimos
in the movies i believe they used the quiver on the back or was that just the elves at helms deep. and the armor upgrades(bronze silver gold) we will see the improvement on the troops right?(i have to ask it might be obvious to some but i thought id ask) im sorry if this is off topic but just though i'd ask. (oh and i agree Line they look amazing) keep up the great work guys!!!!!
Upgrades will be in later release.:yes:
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A question, will Citadel Guards be able to perform an elite infantry role or will that fall to the Dis. Swan Knights?
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The Englishman
A question, will Citadel Guards be able to perform an elite infantry role or will that fall to the Dis. Swan Knights?
Not really sure what you mean by elite infantry role.
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what he means is that if the citadel guars are going to be the best infantry available for gondor
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The Englishman
A question, will Citadel Guards be able to perform an elite infantry role or will that fall to the Dis. Swan Knights?
i am not a team member so this is speculation only. i believe that they will be able to fill an elite infantry role. they are the guards of the citadel adn thus be very well trained and armed. but im assuming that they have a low recruitment because they are the guards of the citadel so there may not be too many of them
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Originally Posted by
Demon Deimos
i am not a team member so this is speculation only. i believe that they will be able to fill an elite infantry role. they are the guards of the citadel adn thus be very well trained and armed. but im assuming that they have a low recruitment because they are the guards of the citadel so there may not be too many of them
Indeed, they will be AoR Minas Tirith and have a very low recruitment pool. They are Gondor's most elite defensive infantry, while the Dismounted Swan Knights would be their most elite offensive infantry (who also have a very low recruitment pool and are AoR Dol Amroth).
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Ok, thanks. This mod looks great BTW :thumbsup2
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Faction icon that Code_Knight make should be good shield for some light gondor ifantry!
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Provided Gondor has any light infantry :tongue:
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Originally Posted by
The Englishman
Provided Gondor has any light infantry :tongue:
Gondor Militia sounds like light infantry to me.
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Actually Gondor militia would be good to have in game.
A peasants but with leather armor and some kind of wooden shields
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Gondor is going to have light infantry but obviously the heavy infantry are the good looking ones so you see them in the preview and not the less fashionable light infantry
as for peasants I doubt they should be included at all when weak light militia fill the same roll and actually fit into an army unlike a band of pitchfork wielding farmers
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Originally Posted by
The Count(er)
Gondor is going to have light infantry but obviously the heavy infantry are the good looking ones so you see them in the preview and not the less fashionable light infantry
as for peasants I doubt they should be included at all when weak light militia fill the same roll and actually fit into an army unlike a band of pitchfork wielding farmers
I never understood the role of Peasants any ways.
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Peasants are there just to be killed :P
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that's actually true although that role is supposed to belong to the weakest militia and the peasant's role is supposed to be farming the food for the soldiers so they can fulfill their role of killing those militia that are supposed to be killed
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Originally Posted by
The Big Red 1
I never understood the role of Peasants any ways.
The unit description even says "Good cannon fodder". And that's exacty what they are, you use them to soak up the fire from the enemy archers and to push rams, etc.
Anyway... Gondor militia, will they have spears or swords? I'm too lazy to look around. :P
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it will interesting if they will have sword. it sound good
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EVYATAR
it will interesting if they will have sword. it sound good
Well, swordsmen militia would be pretty strong (for militia), and it's not very common (in M2TW, at least), so it'd be fun to have a rare and capable militia unit. The question is, could the average gondorian citizen afford a sword?
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they can to be like the sword militia in spain fatichon not?
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most likely any milita unit would be equiped in padded leather and carry a shield and spear into battle because spears are cheaper than swords. almost all milita in games carry spears but it would be an interesting change of pace to give them swords.
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EVYATAR
they can to be like the sword militia in spain fatichon not?
That's the idea, although I'm not sure if the average gondorian commoner could afford a sword.
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Originally Posted by
Demon Deimos
most likely any milita unit would be equiped in padded leather and carry a shield and spear into battle because spears are cheaper than swords. almost all milita in games carry spears but it would be an interesting change of pace to give them swords.
Yeah, that was my point in my last post. :P
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Well we know elves could afford them, and I'm pretty sure in those days it wou;d be suicide for a Gondorian not to save up for a sword. The other thing is the Gondorian goverment could arm them. Like the Peasants at Helm's Deep.
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Originally Posted by
The Big Red 1
Well we know elves could afford them, and I'm pretty sure in those days it wou;d be suicide for a Gondorian not to save up for a sword. The other thing is the Gondorian goverment could arm them. Like the Peasants at Helm's Deep.
well the peasents at helms deep was an extreme case that was the last stand of rohan. if they lose helms deep its over. kind of a back againist the wall scenrio. For gondor the sitution isnt so desprate(even though it seems just as bad). they seem to have a nice sized army and maybe dont need to relay on peasent. because peasents arent too useful in a fight maybe more of a hamperance for gondor.
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But militia with spears in MEII is pretty strong for a militia!
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Originally Posted by
The Big Red 1
Well we know elves could afford them, and I'm pretty sure in those days it wou;d be suicide for a Gondorian not to save up for a sword. The other thing is the Gondorian goverment could arm them. Like the Peasants at Helm's Deep.
So, will Gondor Militia have sword or spear? Or perhaps even both?
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YEAH,it would be pretty cool to have in one group mix of sword and spear militia!
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Originally Posted by
karlost123456789
YEAH,it would be pretty cool to have in one group mix of sword and spear militia!
I sort of meant two different units. :P
It's good to have more than one type of milita anyway (spear, sword, bow/crossbow, pike).
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I know from the begining that there is something missing and than i remember.GOT DAMNE IT where is militia?????
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Perhaps Gondor sword and spear Militia can be armed with the same weapons and shield as their regular counterparts, but only have a metal helmet, mostly wearing leather armor? http://www.skornictwo.pl/english/jpg...ues_medium.jpg
something like this.
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Originally Posted by
Nikos_Rouvelas
Perhaps Gondor sword and spear Militia can be armed with the same weapons and shield as their regular counterparts, but only have a metal helmet, mostly wearing leather armor?
I agree about the weapons (althouth, milita should still have lower attack values, due to their lack of training) and padded armor, but I doubt that local militia could afford the standard issue gondorian helmet. Even in the potential case that the city government would outfit them, I don't think the governor would waste perfectly good helmets on untrained peasants and craftsmen.
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Originally Posted by
Mithrandir the Istari
I agree about the weapons (althouth, milita should still have lower attack values, due to their lack of training) and padded armor, but I doubt that local militia could afford the standard issue gondorian helmet. Even in the potential case that the city government would outfit them, I don't think the governor would waste perfectly good helmets on untrained peasants and craftsmen.
They would just be like..."Here is a sword go out there and kill something." Who'd waste money on the Labor?
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Originally Posted by
Mithrandir the Istari
I agree about the weapons (althouth, milita should still have lower attack values, due to their lack of training) and padded armor, but I doubt that local militia could afford the standard issue gondorian helmet. Even in the potential case that the city government would outfit them, I don't think the governor would waste perfectly good helmets on untrained peasants and craftsmen.
Militia are usually given some training, I think you are confusing Militia with levies. If Gondor has levies then I agree they shouldn't wear any armor. Militia though I think should have some armor.
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Originally Posted by
Nikos_Rouvelas
Militia are usually given some training, I think you are confusing Militia with levies. If Gondor has levies then I agree they shouldn't wear any armor. Militia though I think should have some armor.
Yes, militia are given some training, but not as much as a professional soldier, who are (mostly) trained from a young age. Also, milita can be upgraded to wear light or even heavy mail, but the "regular" gondorian helmets are quite detailed and at least look quite difficult to make. I have no problem with militia having helmets, I just think they should wear simpler helmets than professional gondorian infantry.
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Mithrandir the Istari
I just think they should wear simpler helmets than professional gondorian infantry.
that's my opinion too
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I agree aswell, militia having so well crafted helmets is pointless. A militia like that is just not trained enough to make it afordable. I mean there will be a big group of militia which would be pointless waste of funds to arm in cool looking helmets which won't help them much anyway(compared to the weaker helmets). Simple ones instead of those of course. Though I doubt they would have anyones diffrent from a bit leather with metal reinforcement.
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Alerion
Though I doubt they would have anyones diffrent from a bit leather with metal reinforcement.
Well, it's better than nothing. Leather can be surprisingly sturdy.
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They're good pictures but in my opinion, that armour isn't really suited to Gondor. Looks more like Harad or Rhun style. For Gondor, I would think a padded jacket covered with a tunic with work better
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Originally Posted by
ccllnply
They're good pictures but in my opinion, that armour isn't really suited to Gondor. Looks more like Harad or Rhun style. For Gondor, I would think a padded jacket covered with a tunic with work better
What about ranger armor but less stealthy?
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Sorry, I don't really understand the question
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Originally Posted by
ccllnply
Sorry, I don't really understand the question
Have the Gondor militia have the same leather jerkins as the rangers, but not the green shaded accents and such.
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Nikos_Rouvelas
Have the Gondor militia have the same leather jerkins as the rangers, but not the green shaded accents and such.
In the mod? I don't know. In Middle-earth? I suppoes.
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Doesn't sound like a bad idea to me, at least for the lowest tier armor. I still think militia should be upgradeable, allowing them to wear mail.
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Originally Posted by
Mithrandir the Istari
Doesn't sound like a bad idea to me, at least for the lowest tier armor. I still think militia should be upgradeable, allowing them to wear mail.
Sounds good, and Rangers shouldn't be able to upgrade
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Originally Posted by
ccllnply
Sounds good, and Rangers shouldn't be able to upgrade
Of course not.
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Originally Posted by
Mithrandir the Istari
Doesn't sound like a bad idea to me, at least for the lowest tier armor. I still think militia should be upgradeable, allowing them to wear mail.
I think that's a good Idea. Maybe give the Militia a simple skull cap helmet as well?
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Originally Posted by
Nikos_Rouvelas
I think that's a good Idea. Maybe give the Militia a simple skull cap helmet as well?
Sure, or a padded leather helmet. Well, pretty much any cheap helmet is fine.
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perhaps when upgraded with mail they receive a shiny new metal helmet to replace their leather one? not necessarily the standard issue gondorian one (but i can't exactly see Minas Tirith being short on spares! :P) but perhaps something more like the old Numenorean one (like you see in the prologue in FOTR)?
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Originally Posted by
rory o'kane
perhaps when upgraded with mail they receive a shiny new metal helmet to replace their leather one? not necessarily the standard issue gondorian one (but i can't exactly see Minas Tirith being short on spares! :P) but perhaps something more like the old Numenorean one (like you see in the prologue in FOTR)?
I agree, you should be able to upgrade militia with metal helmets. But should they be shiny? I Don't think so. (A regular norman-style metal helmet would do nicely).
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Originally Posted by
Mithrandir the Istari
I agree, you should be able to upgrade militia with metal helmets. But should they be shiny? I Don't think so. (A regular norman-style metal helmet would do nicely).
I like the idea Mithrandir and a cheap metal helmet would do fine.
What about for orc militia?
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Originally Posted by
Roger the Shrubber
I like the idea Mithrandir and a cheap metal helmet would do fine.
What about for orc militia?
No helmet, shabby armor and a crude weapon (should vary widely).
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i'm not sure the idea of "orc militia" really makes sense... i mean, orcs are bred for war, so surely they'd all be given some basic training and equipment...
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Originally Posted by
rory o'kane
i'm not sure the idea of "orc militia" really makes sense... i mean, orcs are bred for war, so surely they'd all be given some basic training and equipment...
Orcs weren't bred for war. They were bred to mock Illuvater's children.
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Originally Posted by
rory o'kane
i'm not sure the idea of "orc militia" really makes sense... i mean, orcs are bred for war, so surely they'd all be given some basic training and equipment...
Uruk-Hai were bred for war. Anyway, "Orc Militia" isn't the official name, it could be orc-band or whatever.
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every Orc was bred for war...every...
for doing harm
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Originally Posted by
Glorfindel
every Orc was bred for war...every...
for doing harm
The originals weren't. The Orcs during the wars of Bereland were when they were first seen in war, and many fell to Noldor steel. Also they are made to reproduce quickly, eat little, and to fear their masters. So they made the perfect army...but they weren't strong enough in battle 1 on 1.
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we don't talk for 1 on 1
we talk about armies
and you talk about first battles
we talk about last battles
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in Beleriad Orcs were armed with steel after some battles and their armies were large and quite strong...Noldor never managed to defeat Morgoth on their own
so Sauron would have armed his own Orcs with steel...Orcs would have learnt after ages and ages of battles
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Originally Posted by
Glorfindel
we don't talk for 1 on 1
we talk about armies
and you talk about first battles
we talk about last battles
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in Beleriad Orcs were armed with steel after some battles and their armies were large and quite strong...Noldor never managed to defeat Morgoth on their own
so Sauron would have armed his own Orcs with steel...Orcs would have learnt after ages and ages of battles
Sauron didn't have the means for steel, I think he most likely used Iron. And Orcs don't learn orcs are stupid cannon fodder.
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Orcs are nasty and smelly, let's get back on topic. :yes:
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Originally Posted by
The Big Red 1
Sauron didn't have the means for steel, I think he most likely used Iron. And Orcs don't learn orcs are stupid cannon fodder.
orcs are not stupid, read the hobbit and you will descover that Tolkien mentions that Orcs have a sharp mind-but a mind only for evil
these are the creatures that invented a lot of bad things that exist even today
Hobbit....:)
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Varjon, i had to answer:tongue:
sorry;)
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Hello everyone, this is my first post for this mod-First off this is an amazing mod i cant wait to play it. I do have one question I noticed that these forces were missing from the gondor unit list. will the units listed below be included in the final list
CLANSMEN OF LAMEDON
HUNTER OF ANFALAS
BOWMAN OF MORTHOND
SOLDIERS OF PINNATH GELIN
SOLDIERS OF RINGLÓ VALE
WARDENS OF PELAGIR
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Originally Posted by
Cgoasis
Hello everyone, this is my first post for this mod-First off this is an amazing mod i cant wait to play it. I do have one question I noticed that these forces were missing from the gondor unit list. will the units listed below be included in the final list
CLANSMEN OF LAMEDON
HUNTER OF ANFALAS
BOWMAN OF MORTHOND
SOLDIERS OF PINNATH GELIN
SOLDIERS OF RINGLÓ VALE
WARDENS OF PELAGIR
The unit roster on the frontpage is final. Maybe in the next releases, but not now. If you want, you can make a mod ;)
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Originally Posted by
Cgoasis
Hello everyone, this is my first post for this mod-First off this is an amazing mod i cant wait to play it. I do have one question I noticed that these forces were missing from the gondor unit list. will the units listed below be included in the final list
CLANSMEN OF LAMEDON
HUNTER OF ANFALAS
BOWMAN OF MORTHOND
SOLDIERS OF PINNATH GELIN
SOLDIERS OF RINGLÓ VALE
WARDENS OF PELAGIR
I find it interesting that you mention this, as I was thinking along similar lines. It worries me that all of the units in this preview all seem so impressively armed and armored, which could obviously lead to significant imbalance particularly in early stages of the game.
For those unaware of the units referenced above, here is the relevant passage from Return of the King:
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And so the companies came and were hailed and cheered and passed through the Gate, men of the Outlands marching to defend the City of Gondor in a dark hour; but always too few, always less than hope looked for or need asked. The men of Ringló Vale behind the son of their lord, Dervorin striding on foot: three hundreds. From the uplands of Morthond, the great Blackroot Vale, tall Duinhir with his sons, Duilin and Derufin, and five hundred bowmen. From the Anfalas, the Langstrand far away, a long line of men of many sorts, hunters and herdsmen and men of little villages, scantily equipped save for the household of Golasgil their lord. From Lamedon, a few grim hillmen without a captain. Fisher-folk of the Ethir, some hundred or more spared from the ships. Hirluin the Fair of the Green Hills from Pinnath Gelin with three hundreds of gallant green-clad men. And last and proudest, Imrahil, Prince of Dol Amroth, kinsman of the Lord, with gilded banners bearing his token of the Ship and the Silver Swan, and a company of knights in full harness riding grey horses; and behind them seven hundreds of men at arms, tall as lords, grey-eyed, dark-haired, singing as they came.
In any case, I wonder if some of these units (or some creative amalgamation of them) should be added in order to provide some more basic units for the early game.
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Originally Posted by
shinsengumi
I find it interesting that you mention this, as I was thinking along similar lines. It worries me that all of the units in this preview all seem so impressively armed and armored, which could obviously lead to significant imbalance particularly in early stages of the game.
For those unaware of the units referenced above, here is the relevant passage from Return of the King:
In any case, I wonder if some of these units (or some creative amalgamation of them) should be added in order to provide some more basic units for the early game.
Therefore I hope there'll be some militia units included, or light armoured units (with padded/ mail armour).
Those clansmen of lamedon, hunters of anfalas etc seems to be good units for beginning of the game.
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Sometimes wonder why everyone is such idiots......
NOT ALL THE TROOPS WILL BE THAT ARMORED WE ONLY SHOWED YOU THE BEST ONES!!!! This has been said like 5000000000000 times.:yes:
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The Big Red 1
Sometimes wonder why everyone is such idiots......
NOT ALL THE TROOPS WILL BE THAT ARMORED WE ONLY SHOWED YOU THE BEST ONES!!!! This has been said like 5000000000000 times.:yes:
:doh:
Choose your words carefully. I really don't want to have anything against you, so don't give me reasons... :thumbsdow
I don't feel sorry for not reading whole 11 pages of this thread. It should be posted on the frontpage. Why don't you show us the weaker armor compared to the upgraded ones then, to make it clear?!
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Originally Posted by
The Big Red 1
Sometimes wonder why everyone is such idiots......
NOT ALL THE TROOPS WILL BE THAT ARMORED WE ONLY SHOWED YOU THE BEST ONES!!!! This has been said like 5000000000000 times.:yes:
Yikes! :sweating:
Many apologies. In my defense, I did try to read through as many of the threads as I could before I started posting today to try to get as good a feel of what had been done thus far so I wouldn't seem too much of a noob, but I guess it was all for naught.
Apologies again!
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Originally Posted by
Phunkracy
:doh:
Choose your words carefully. I really don't want to have anything against you, so don't give me reasons... :thumbsdow
I don't feel sorry for not reading whole 11 pages of this thread. It should be posted on the frontpage. Why don't you show us the weaker armor compared to the upgraded ones then, to make it clear?!
Don't insult Big Red 1! :disgust::laughter:
Those questions you should ask from King Kong. When he posted this thread he hadn't fully finished Gondor's units. Full previews of all units in mod will be posted when first version will be released. ;)
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hello again everyone,
the reason i brought up this information before about the different fiefdoms of gondor is to show that there were a variety of soldiers in gondor, i really think that the men of minas tirith were based and trained pretty much around the capitol. I think the other areas of gondor supplied there own forces such as axeman of LOSSARNACH. So when u do look at the unit roster of the gondor the units it look more like a unit roster for the army of minas tirth than one from an area with mixed units with different colors and uniforms.
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Originally Posted by
Cgoasis
hello again everyone,
the reason i brought up this information before about the different fiefdoms of gondor is to show that there were a variety of soldiers in gondor, i really think that the men of minas tirith were based and trained pretty much around the capitol. I think the other areas of gondor supplied there own forces such as axeman of LOSSARNACH. So when u do look at the unit roster of the gondor the units it look more like a unit roster for the army of minas tirth than one from an area with mixed units with different colors and uniforms.
Again, the list isn't final, and it's for version 1.0. We have to leave something to improve on, don't we?
Also, the units look like the army of Minas Tirith, because that's the ones that are shown in the movies. That's where the modders get the visual reference, so of course they look like them.
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Stop spam guys and get back on topic.
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uhh yeah..... aye....
can gondor have claymore soldiers?
and the spears have these form ==============|--------
the blade need to be more long, and a metal stick in the middle
=(wood)====(metal stick)|(blade)-------
60%................ 10%............ 30%
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8...l852jz1.th.gifhttp://img152.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif
watch the spear
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tryadelion
Since when did figurines decide what an accurate spear looks like? Wooden spears are perfectly fine.
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Originally Posted by
Mithrandir the Istari
Since when did figurines decide what an accurate spear looks like? Wooden spears are perfectly fine.
Suggestions are still allowed, stop trying to act like a moderator.
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uh... some need a piece of all-brann
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Originally Posted by
aNarion.
Suggestions are still allowed, stop trying to act like a moderator.
By supporting this since the beginning he's allowed to act like a moderator and let's not start another flame war aNarion.
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Originally Posted by
aNarion.
Suggestions are still allowed, stop trying to act like a moderator.
I didn't say suggestions aren't allowed, but I don't have to agree with all of them. I don't think that the spears need to be changed, and that's what I said. I mean no disrespect and I definately didn't try to moderate.
(Sorry Varjon, but I had to explain myself)
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That's okay, but let's get back on topic now. :yes:
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wooden spears perfects, but... really from Minas Tirth? wooden with a basuc pike for losonranch, but minas tirith need a better type of spear, watch the movie :)
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Originally Posted by
tryadelion
wooden spears perfects, but... really from Minas Tirth? wooden with a basuc pike for losonranch, but minas tirith need a better type of spear, watch the movie :)
Take a look at the King's Guard, their spears look like they're made out of ash or maple, both of which are very hard.
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another question..... with percent, how long is the minas tirith spear if we put it near a medium (6 feets) man?
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Originally Posted by
tryadelion
another question..... with percent, how long is the minas tirith spear if we put it near a medium (6 feets) man?
Do you mean the one used by the King's Guard or Fountain Guard?
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tryadelion
from gondorian spearmen
Judging by the preview, I'd say about 2 feet longer than the average man.
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Mithrandir the Istari
Take a look at the King's Guard, their spears look like they're made out of ash or maple, both of which are very hard.
And they were soaked in water and then aged for about 10 years so that the wood was practically petrified.
Lances and spears made for battle rarely broke, the idea that they(spears/lances) did comes from the medieval tournament where lances designed to break apart instead of impale people were used.
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Im glad you included dol amroth they were important in the books
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so if you use a sword and slashed a lance or spear it wont break?
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ace4455
so if you use a sword and slashed a lance or spear it wont break?
Nope, you'd have to hit pretty :wub:ing hard with a very heavy weapon, and the spear would have to rest against something, otherwise there wouldn't be a breaking point.
Bottom line, spears don't break.
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You have said that alreay.
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Roger the Shrubber
You have said that alreay.
I noticed, must have posted twice by mistake... good thing I'm a mod now, so I can fix it...
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AND JUT WHEN I THOUGH THAT GONORD COULDN´T LOOK ANY BETTER!!
GREAT WORK AS ALLWAYS KK!!
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omg awesome better and better KK ftw:thumbsup2
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for the first time in my life I am impressed by something someone else has done. I kid, but, seriously, the updated Gondor units are spectacular, they really look like the sons of the Numenoreans, like the soldiers that hold back the tide of Mordor, will Rohan look this awesome?
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Updated units are way better!
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OMG Those units are soo much improved...i thought the other ones was good, but those are GREAT!!!
Awesome work man + rep :thumbsup2
btw you guys are making it harder for us to wait, because each update makes us wanting this game more and more! :laughter:
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Not as many beards as I would have imagined their would be, also any chance you could create unit variation to some of the units? I know they are wearing uniforms, but the belt placement or cloth quality/tone could vary slightly, so they do not have the RTW effect. Also the blue helmets look quite out of place, perhaps making them wooden would be more suitable?
Definitely superior to the first version, excellent work, keep it up. :)