This mod will, via scripts, make allied factions declare war when their allies are attacked. It works like this:
1. At the start of the game, Gondor is allied with Rohan. Mordor is allied with the Harad and with Rhûn as well. Gondor is already at war with Mordor and the Harad.
2. Gondor and Mordor have just fought a battle. As a result, Rohan declared war on Mordor and Rhûn declared war on Gondor.
If you are playing as Gondor, Rohan, Dale, Eriador, Dwarves, High Elves or the Silvan Elves and are allied with any of the above, you may be ask for help by you allies. You will also be able to see the cities of your allies on the campaign map.
The Dale and the Silvan Elves are allies from the start of the game.
Changes for 0.5:
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campaign_scripts:
added:
Match Diplomacy Section script
Reveal Allied Tiles script
Good Factions Declared/Break Alliances script
Bad Factions Declared/Break Alliances script
Good And Bad Factions Declared War script
Dwarven King Asks For Aid script
King of Dale Asks For Aid script
King of Rohan Asks For Aid script
King of the High Elves Asks For Aid script
King of the Silvan Elves Asks For Aid script
Steward of Gondor Asks For Aid script
Lord of the Dúnedain Asks For Aid script
Spawn Corsair Pirate Ships script
descr_strat:
change:
The Dale and the Silvan Elves now start the game as allies.
This is now the only change made to the ‘descr_strat’ file.
historic_events;
added text for:
Dwarven King Asks For Aid script
King of Dale Asks For Aid script
King of Rohan Asks For Aid script
King of the High Elves Asks For Aid script
King of the Silvan Elves Asks For Aid script
Steward of Gondor Asks For Aid script
Lord of the Dúnedain Asks For Aid script
February 15, 2010, 01:27 PM
Janksar
Re: Real Alliances Mod 0.1 For Third Age Mod 1.4
Sounds good! Is it compatible with the other mods?
Also what happens if then :
5. Eriador becomes allied with Rohan?
February 15, 2010, 01:41 PM
Beorn
Re: Real Alliances Mod 0.1 For Third Age Mod 1.4
sounds nice ;)
February 15, 2010, 08:22 PM
TNZ
Re: Real Alliances Mod 0.1 For Third Age Mod 1.4
Quote:
Sounds good! Is it compatible with the other mods?
No. You would need to paste the ‘Good Factions Real Alliances’ and
‘Bad Factions Real Alliances’ scripts into that mod’s campaign_script file and replace the diplomacy section in it’s descr_strat file with the one used in my mod descr_strat file. :)
Quote:
Also what happens if then?
5. Eriador becomes allied with Rohan?
Eriador would declare war on Mordor, Harad and Rhûn. But if Rohan made peace with Rhûn before signing an alliance with Eriador, then Eriador would only declared war on Mordor and Harad.:)
February 16, 2010, 08:32 AM
runner3434
Re: Real Alliances Mod 0.1 For Third Age Mod 1.4
The really clever thing would be if:
6: Gondor makes peace with Mordor
Then the entire alliance all make peace with each other!
I have no idea if it is feasible though!
February 16, 2010, 08:36 AM
Seleukos_I.
Re: Real Alliances Mod 0.1 For Third Age Mod 1.4
I don't think that this would be good because then it could happen that very soon no wars are going on in Middle Earth.
February 16, 2010, 05:10 PM
HolyDevil
Re: Real Alliances Mod 0.1 For Third Age Mod 1.4
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seleukos_I.
I don't think that this would be good because then it could happen that very soon no wars are going on in Middle Earth.
then happy cute hippie bunnies would invade middle-earth
monitor_event TileSeen not FactionType slave ;Replaces the current 'reached rauros' historic event.
and FactionIsLocal
and IsPositionInRect 235 164 3 3
historic_event reached_rauros event/reached_falls_of_rauros.bik
terminate_monitor
end_monitor
Replacement entries for the tooltips file in the mod’s text folder.
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Code:
{TMT_SUGAR_TOOLTIP}Statue of King Anárion\n\nThis statue of King Anárion marks the northern border of Gondor. Constructed in the reign of King Rómendacil II (1304-1366 TA), it stands on the east bank of the River Anduin and forms, with the statue of King Isildur on the opposite bank, the Gate of Argonath.\n\nKing Anárion (3320-3441 SA) was the son of King Elendil the Tall (3320-3441 SA) and the father of King Meneldil (2-158 TA). King Anárion and his brother King Isildur were the cofounders and joint rulers of Gondor. Anárion was slain at the Battle of Dagorlad in 3441 SA.
{TMT_TIN_TOOLTIP}Statue of King Isildur\n\nThis statue of King Isildur marks the northern border of Gondor. Constructed in the reign of King Rómendacil II (1304-1366 TA), it stands on the west bank of the River Anduin and forms, with the statue of King Anárion on the opposite bank, the Gate of Argonath.\n\nKing Isildur (3320 SA-2 TA) was the son of King Elendil the Tall (3320-3441 SA) and the father of King Valandil (2-249 TA). King Isildur and his brother King Anárion were the cofounders and joint rulers of Gondor. Isildur fought at the Battle of Dagorlad in 3441 SA, where he cut the Ring of Power from the Sauron’s hand with Narsil, the broken sword of his father Elendil. Isildur took the Ring of Power for his own, only to be betrayed by it at the Battle of Gladden Fields in 2 TA. There Isildur and his three elder sons were slain.
monitor_event TileSeen not FactionType slave ;Replaces the current 'reached rauros' historic event.
and FactionIsLocal
and IsPositionInRect 235 164 3 3
historic_event reached_rauros event/reached_falls_of_rauros.bik
terminate_monitor
end_monitor
Replacement entries for the tooltips file in the mod’s text folder.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Code:
{TMT_SUGAR_TOOLTIP}Statue of King Anárion\n\nThis statue of King Anárion marks the northern border of Gondor. Constructed in the reign of King Rómendacil II (1304-1366 TA), it stands on the east bank of the River Anduin and forms, with the statue of King Isildur on the opposite bank, the Gate of Argonath.\n\nKing Anárion (3320-3441 SA) was the son of King Elendil the Tall (3320-3441 SA) and the father of King Meneldil (2-158 TA). King Anárion and his brother King Isildur were the cofounders and joint rulers of Gondor. Anárion was slain at the Battle of Dagorlad in 3441 SA.
{TMT_TIN_TOOLTIP}Statue of King Isildur\n\nThis statue of King Isildur marks the northern border of Gondor. Constructed in the reign of King Rómendacil II (1304-1366 TA), it stands on the west bank of the River Anduin and forms, with the statue of King Anárion on the opposite bank, the Gate of Argonath.\n\nKing Isildur (3320 SA-2 TA) was the son of King Elendil the Tall (3320-3441 SA) and the father of King Valandil (2-249 TA). King Isildur and his brother King Anárion were the cofounders and joint rulers of Gondor. Isildur fought at the Battle of Dagorlad in 3441 SA, where he cut the Ring of Power from the Sauron’s hand with Narsil, the broken sword of his father Elendil. Isildur took the Ring of Power for his own, only to be betrayed by it at the Battle of Gladden Fields in 2 TA. There Isildur and his three elder sons were slain.
Excellent, this would be nice to implement.
February 19, 2010, 05:08 AM
Finlander
Re: Real Alliances Mod 0.1 For Third Age Mod 1.4
This sounds very good. :)
February 19, 2010, 07:44 AM
Aikanár
Re: Real Alliances Mod 0.1 For Third Age Mod 1.4
Nice one, but one remark:
The battle of Dagorlad took place in 3434TA.
The fight between Sauron, Elendil (supported by Isildur) and Gil-galad (supported by Cirdan and Elrond) took place on a flank of Orodruin which makes the region Gorgoroth.
February 19, 2010, 09:54 PM
TNZ
Re: Real Alliances Mod 0.1 For Third Age Mod 1.4
Quote:
Nice one, but one remark:
The battle of Dagorlad took place in 3434TA.
The fight between Sauron, Elendil (supported by Isildur) and Gil-galad (supported by Cirdan and Elrond) took place on a flank of Orodruin which makes the region Gorgoroth.
Thanks Aikanár. Hopefully, someone who knows a bit more about the lore of Middle Earth will write better descriptions for the Statues of Anárion and Isildur, as well as the White Towers of Emyn Beraid, Durin's Tower and Amon Hen.:)
February 19, 2010, 09:57 PM
TNZ
Re: Real Alliances Mod 0.1 For Third Age Mod 1.4
This is interesting. Apparently you can spawn a general into a family tree.
Code:
monitor_conditions I_EventCounter aragorn_accepted = 1
spawn_army
faction sicily
character Aragorn, named character, age 35, x 236, y 124, family, portrait Aragon, battle_model elessar, hero_ability The_Flower_of_Chivalry
traits Elessar 1 , GoodCommander 3 , PublicFaith 1 , ReligionStarter 1 , GoodAttacker 1 , Brave 2 , Just 2 , KindRuler 2 , Loyal 2 , VictorVirtue 1
unit Gondor Bodyguard exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
end
send_character_off_map strider1
historic_event aragorn_accepted factions { sicily, }
move_strat_camera 236, 124
terminate_monitor
end_monitor
February 20, 2010, 03:01 AM
Aikanár
Re: Real Alliances Mod 0.1 For Third Age Mod 1.4
Yup, I've seen that in c_s and thought the same: very interesting :)
But for my taste it needs more testing, whether it might be possible to specify where in the family tree a scripted spawn will be added.
February 20, 2010, 03:09 AM
Ellin Athinaios
Re: Real Alliances Mod 0.1 For Third Age Mod 1.4
Quote:
Originally Posted by TNZ
This is interesting. Apparently you can spawn a general into a family tree.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Code:
monitor_conditions I_EventCounter aragorn_accepted = 1
spawn_army
faction sicily
character Aragorn, named character, age 35, x 236, y 124, family, portrait Aragon, battle_model elessar, hero_ability The_Flower_of_Chivalry
traits Elessar 1 , GoodCommander 3 , PublicFaith 1 , ReligionStarter 1 , GoodAttacker 1 , Brave 2 , Just 2 , KindRuler 2 , Loyal 2 , VictorVirtue 1
unit Gondor Bodyguard exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
end
send_character_off_map strider1
historic_event aragorn_accepted factions { sicily, }
move_strat_camera 236, 124
terminate_monitor
end_monitor
Now that is very interesting... :hmm:
February 20, 2010, 04:48 AM
IHV
Re: Real Alliances Mod 0.1 For Third Age Mod 1.4
Add here the Good vs Evil mod and we be rocking.
February 20, 2010, 10:41 AM
Seleukos_I.
Re: Real Alliances Mod 0.1 For Third Age Mod 1.4
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellin Athinaios
Now that is very interesting... :hmm:
I have to second. It would be great if it really works.
February 20, 2010, 01:48 PM
Point Blank
Re: Real Alliances Mod 0.1 For Third Age Mod 1.4
Yep that is interesting!
February 21, 2010, 11:33 PM
TNZ
Re: Real Alliances Mod 0.1 For For TATW 1.4 And 1.4.1
I have added a version for TATW 1.4.1. See the first post.:)
February 21, 2010, 11:43 PM
TNZ
Re: Real Alliances Mod 0.1 For For TATW 1.4 And 1.4.1
character Denethor, named character, male, leader, age 65, x 239, y 128, portrait Denethor, hero_ability The_Heart_of_the_Lion, label denethor1 ;anorien born 2930
traits Denethor 1 , Factionleader 1 , GoodCommander 1 , NaturalMilitarySkill 1 , Unjust 1 , Introvert 1 , PoliticsSkill 2 , ReligionStarter 1 , ChivalryLegacy 1
ancillaries steward_gondor, drillmaster, troops_gondor
army
unit Gondor Bodyguard exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dismounted Kofm exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Militia Archers exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Militia Archers exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Fountain Guard exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
character Faramir, named character, male, age 18, x 249, y 127, portrait Faramir, battle_model faramir, label faramir1 ;linhir Born 2983 290, y 138 249, y 127
traits Faramir 1 , LoyaltyStarter 1 , GoodCommander 1 , ReligionStarter 1 , GoodAmbusher 1 , Intelligent 1 , Aesthetic 1 , Just 1
ancillaries warden, gondor_horn
army
unit Ithilien Rangers_BG exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dismounted Kofm exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dismounted Kofm exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
character Forlong, named character, male, age 36, x 223, y 122, portrait Forlong ;lossarnach
traits LoyaltyStarter 1 , GoodCommander 2 , ReligionStarter 1 , HaleAndHearty 1
army
unit Gondor Bodyguard exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Axemen of Lossarnach exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Axemen of Lossarnach exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
character Derufin, named character, male, age 39, x 237, y 101 ;pelargir
traits LoyaltyStarter 1 , GoodCommander 1 , ReligionStarter 1
army
unit Gondor Bodyguard exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dismounted Kofm exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Militia Archers exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Marines exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
character Durven, named character, male, age 29, x 205, y 103 ;linhir
traits LoyaltyStarter 1 , GoodCommander 1 , ReligionStarter 1
army
unit Gondor Bodyguard exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dismounted Kofm exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dismounted Kofm exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Militia Archers exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
character Imrahil, named character, male, age 30, x 175, y 106, portrait Imrahil, label imrahil1 ;belfalas
traits LoyaltyStarter 1 , GoodCommander 2 , ReligionStarter 1 , GoodDefender 1 , StrategyChivalry 2 , BattleChivalry 1 , Just 1 , HaleAndHearty 2
ancillaries prince_dol_amroth
army
unit Swan Knights exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dismounted Kofm exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dismounted Kofm exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dol Amroth Knights exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
character Arveldir, named character, male, age 43, x 143, y 106 ;anfalas
traits LoyaltyStarter 1 , GoodCommander 1 , ReligionStarter 1
ancillaries gondor_border
army
unit Gondor Bodyguard exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dismounted Kofm exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dol Amroth Knights exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
character Nirthor, named character, male, age 26, x 191, y 133 ;lamedon
traits LoyaltyStarter 1 , GoodCommander 1 , ReligionStarter 1 , Loyal 1
army
unit Gondor Bodyguard exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dismounted Kofm exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dismounted Kofm exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Militia Archers exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
character Istdor, named character, male, age 47, x 196, y 113 ;tarnost FORT x 152, y 271
traits LoyaltyStarter 1 , GoodCommander 1 , ReligionStarter 1
army
unit Gondor Bodyguard exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dismounted Kofm exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
character Pelilas, named character, male, age 34, x 135, y 122 ;pinnath gelin FORT x 194, y 271
traits LoyaltyStarter 1 , GoodCommander 1 , ReligionStarter 1
army
unit Gondor Bodyguard exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dismounted Kofm exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Militia Archers exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dol Amroth Knights exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
character Boromir, named character, male, heir, age 23, x 183, y 140, portrait Boromir, battle_model boromir, label boromir1 ;erech Born 2978
traits Boromir 1 , Factionheir 1 , LoyaltyStarter 1 , GoodCommander 1 , ReligionStarter 1 , Energetic 1 , Loyal 1
ancillaries high_warden, gondor_horn
army
unit Kingsguard_BG exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Dismounted Kofm exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit Axemen of Lossarnach exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0