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z3n
@Axalon Your screencap indicates that MTW-XL was exceptional in the way it attracted some much interest to TWC, more than any other MTW mod at the time.
Yup, the level of
popularity is remarkable, I agree... However, it is irrelevant in this context - as it is beside the point of this award, as devised. After all, it was hardly created to celebrate and recognize popular stuff, for the sake of it being popular... And "popularity" neither qualifies as any kind of work or as any sort of contribution, or deed, now does it? So, it is irrelevant here
by definition. In other words, the Opifex is still about exceptional work and/or contributions to the TW-boards somehow, and popularity is irrelevant in such a context...
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z3n
I don't think mods have to necessarily be "uber" exceptional and extraordinarily innovative.
Well, that is essentially the premise of this award, as it is defined... After all, it is about
exceptionality - and in order to get there it has to be exceptional enough, meaning it has to still live up to the concept of exceptional as such, and that in turn excludes any half-measures or supposedly "moderately exceptional" stuff, by necessity...
Innovation, is an obvious and typical expression of exceptionality...
Pioneering things is another. Following in the footsteps of others,
is not. Doing what the crowd does,
is not. That is just how things are. There is no changing that. Even if you do it well... It makes no difference... Either we respect the award as it devised, or we don't. If it is to be the latter, then what
is the point with it?
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z3n
Creating an actual full mod in itself is a very impressive feat.
It certainly
can be, depending on the mod and its actual content and extensiveness... How many that have worked on it, and so forth... Basically, it does not automatically have too be... However the important question here is rather - is it enough to release "a major work" (of sorts) in order to qualify for the Opifex? As I understand the award, the answer is a clear "
no"... It is not enough by itself. If it is, then it sure is news to me. And I could probably conjure up at least 4-5 seriously qualified candidates tomorrow, for Opifex - all solo or near-solo projects like XL, similar scope/size and all. If that is the precedence you want to set here. Because they are
there -
they exist - and
that reality kind of take away the exceptionality of things.
At least in the world of MTW-modding - and that is the world we are currently travelling here - circumstances for other games are irrelevant in this case. Personally, I think it would have been much better to nominate VikingHorde for the new "Modding Service Award" instead - since he actually
does qualify for that one at least, and thus it would be better to hand him that, for that very reason. I would easily support such a nomination any day. It would fit much better then the Opifex, all things considered....
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z3n
I don't believe I have done that myself (and yet I have opifex), I only contributed toward mechanics of the mod or created various submods, tutorials etc.
Well, I don't know your case, and I am not an expert on M2TW-modding... All I can do here is to assume that
someone thought you were qualified enough to receive that award. And quietly hope that they were right... What is the alternative?
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z3n
Full mods like that are impressive in their own right, and exceptional.
Bolding mine... Again, in the world of MTW-modding, it really isn't... So why should we pretend that it is?