Re: Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.
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Heathen Hammer
herp derp
You do know that Dr Dre isn't a real doctor, right? And that Carlsberg probably isn't the best lager in the world?
You see the thing is, is that just because something is called something... sometimes... it isn't that at all. This is called Marketing.
Either, Obvious Troll is being obvious, or you could really do with a history lesson.
Re: Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.
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Heathen Hammer
Holocaust was committed by a socialist regime, so since he mentioned that, then clearly SPD is to blame as well, at least by your own logic.
If white supremacists kill and say in writing or on camera that they are doing so to promote white supremacism, what is the obvious conclusion?
The answer isn't reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee socialists Jews or Muslims.
Re: Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.
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mishkin
a crime for which those responsible are punished. as rapists, thieves, tax evaders or any other criminal activity are punished, no matter what their race or ethnicity. So what do you mean by pointing out that fact?
Out of those more than 100000 FGMs only one ended with a successful conviction so what you are saying that "a crime for which those responsible are punished" is simply not true.
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mishkin
When have I suggested something like that? Of course not, but they, like any other extremist group, must be monitored by security forces.
Good to hear.
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mongrel
Does this give identitarians the right to cut people's throats (and post the result for other people's enjoyment)?
Why would that give them the right? wtf
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mongrel
As Miskin said.
Potential Irish and Islamist and fascist terrorist activity is monitored routinely, some groups like Islam 4 UK , Continuity IRA and and National Action are proscribed, some of the worst activists are imprisoned. If people are being killed to promote GI , the organisation should be shut down, in my view. I'd go further though, unlimited fines for any host that recklessly promotes violent GI material or shares murder videos.
Violent GI material? Like what?
Re: Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.
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mishkin
Europe is not "white". Europe does not belong to us. Forget that bs
Who does it belong to, then? Who do the other continents belong to?
Re: Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.
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athanaric
Who does it belong to, then? Who do the other continents belong to?
Governments?
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Heathen Hammer
Nah, they were socialists because their economic program was socialist. Also since you asked us for a history lesson,
here goes.
:laughter:
You may want a few econ/history lessons (you know, from educators rather than youtube pundits); Nazis did not push for collective worker ownership of the means of production. Krupp was very much owned by the Krupp family, not the workers.
-Discussion about the relationship between Nazism and Socialism moved there. ~Abdülmecid I
Re: Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.
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athanaric
Who does it belong to, then? Who do the other continents belong to?
It is much more white than anything else and whites are among those to whom it belongs. If mishkin wants to throw away his property in favor of his non-white utopia, he can do that. Who cares. That doesn't render me and all of my neighbors any less white landowners and landlords in the heart of Europe. :bored:
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mongrel
Does this give identitarians the right to cut people's throats (and post the result for other people's enjoyment)?
As Miskin said.
Potential Irish and Islamist and fascist terrorist activity is monitored routinely, some groups like Islam 4 UK , Continuity IRA and and National Action are proscribed, some of the worst activists are imprisoned. If people are being killed to promote GI , the organisation should be shut down, in my view. I'd go further though, unlimited fines for any host that recklessly promotes violent GI material or shares murder videos.
I'm glad people who spread moralist, self-righteous, censorship-hungry diarrhea like this view me as racist and not one of their own. That would make me feel actual self-disgust. Whether or not an organization has a terrorist arm and is to be criminalized is still not decided by Joe Stupid at the marxist crackerbarrel in the suburb of Shite Towne.
Re: Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.
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swabian
I'm glad people who spread moralist, self-righteous, censorship-hungry diarrhea like this view me as racist and not one of their own. That would make me feel actual self-disgust. Whether or not an organization has a terrorist arm and is to be criminalized is still not decided by Joe Stupid at the marxist crackerbarrel in the suburb of Shite Towne.
What's your problem, have you viewed this material, or do you wish to in future? One is either anti- this kind of behaviour behaviour or not. If not then then there is something not right about such people.
Currently whether or not an organization should present material useful to terrorists has the appearence of being decided by Joe Nazi the incel crackerbarrel in the suburb of loserville. If we have got to the point where people are sharing live videos of mass murder, then something has gone wrong. Chasing these bloodthirsty white identity types who share this material or call out for similar crimes, it's is no different to chasing anyone else sharing snuff videos or paedophile/animal pornography and other unlawful material. It's not self-righteousness, it's default civilised behaviour.
@ Mithridates, you know full well that Christchurch was intended to promote replacement theory and white genocide bollocks, as was El Paso.As for your other point, I refer to that said to HH 'If white supremacists kill and say in writing or on camera that they are doing so to promote white supremacism, what is the obvious conclusion? The answer isn't reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee socialists Jews or Muslims. '.
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Damn SJW's, you can't even murder random people for the glory of white race.
Re: Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.
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mongrel
@ Mithridates, you know full well that Christchurch was intended to promote replacement theory and white genocide bollocks, as was El Paso.As for your other point, I refer to that said to HH 'If white supremacists kill and say in writing or on camera that they are doing so to promote white supremacism, what is the obvious conclusion? The answer isn't reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee socialists Jews or Muslims. '.
lol a movement will not become terrorism promoter because a terrorist promotes them. Is the Environmental movement a terrorism promoter because Eco-terrorists promote Environmentalism? Of course not.
So, is GI promoting terrorism? AFAIK Balliet didnt even promote GI…
Re: Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.
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Mithradates
lol a movement will not become terrorism promoter because a terrorist promotes them. Is the Environmental movement a terrorism promoter because Eco-terrorists promote Environmentalism? Of course not.
So, is GI promoting terrorism? AFAIK Balliet didnt even promote GI…
Didn't realise that mass murder was a laughing matter. GI promotes two things, the myth that the very presence of Muslims/non-white people causes so-called white genocide and the removal of all Muslims /non-white people from European/American society. The latter aim cannot be achieved lawfully, but only through the theft of property, violence and most likely actual genocide.
Re: Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.
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TheLeft
You do know that Dr Dre isn't a real doctor, right? And that Carlsberg probably isn't the best lager in the world?
You see the thing is, is that just because something is called something... sometimes... it isn't that at all.
This is called Marketing.
Either, Obvious Troll is being obvious, or you could really do with a history lesson.
Since you asked us for a history lesson due to your lack of knowledge on the subject, here you go.
Saying that NSDAP wasn't socialist because Krupp owned some factories is like saying that Lenin wasn't a socialist because he enacted NEP.
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mongrel
Didn't realise that mass murder was a laughing matter.
:doh:
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mongrel
GI promotes two things, the myth that the very presence of Muslims/non-white people causes so-called white genocide and the removal of all Muslims /non-white people from European/American society. The latter aim cannot be achieved lawfully, but only through the theft of property, violence and most likely actual genocide.
Which of this is where GI promotes terrorism? The second one? "removal of all Muslims /non-white people from European/American society" Bosniaks? Albanians? Yeah, I doubt this is what they promote.
Also, you could totally source all this, you just not gonna, right?
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Heathen Hammer
Since you asked us for a history lesson due to your lack of knowledge on the subject,
here you go.
Saying that NSDAP wasn't socialist because Krupp owned some factories is like saying that Lenin wasn't a socialist because he enacted NEP.
Lolwut???
I offered you an actual historical source (an excerpt of The Coming of the Third Reich By Richard J. Evans) and to counter, you offer a random Alt-Right YouTuber. A man with no credentials, no reputation and no real argument besides the usual "they were called National Socialists!!!111one" gibberish.
Mate, you've gone and brought a butter knife to a gun fight...
Obvious Troll is being obvious...
Re: Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.
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Mithradates
:doh:
Which of this is where GI promotes terrorism? The second one? "removal of all Muslims /non-white people from European/American society" Bosniaks? Albanians? Yeah, I doubt this is what they promote.
Also, you could totally source all this, you just not gonna, right?
Two mass murders were motivated by GI doctrine. We know this from the manifestos of the terrorists themselves. obviously.
Any reason for excusing these people?
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and to counter, you offer a random Alt-Right YouTuber
He provided an extensive list of sources. Also source that he is alt-right? Clearly since you expressed lack of factual knowledge on the issue, a sourced video is a good place to start for you.
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Heathen Hammer
He provided an extensive list of sources. Also source that he is alt-right? Clearly since you expressed lack of factual knowledge on the issue, a sourced video is a good place to start for you.
A list of sources, many of which comes from Mises, is not indicative of good information. I recommend against watching the video, and watching this one instead.
Re: Another white identitarian mass murder broadcast on the internet.
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Heathen Hammer
He provided an extensive list of sources. Also source that he is alt-right? Clearly since you expressed lack of factual knowledge on the issue, a sourced video is a good place to start for you.
Since your chums at Charlottesville were Nazis and fascists does that then make them and indeed you socialists?
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mishkin
Europe is not "white". Europe does not belong to us. Forget that bs
I saw this inquired about a few times, didn't see the answer - I'm curious how this logic works and who does own it in the scope of what was stated.
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Love Mountain
A list of sources, many of which comes from Mises, is not indicative of good information. I recommend against watching the video, and watching
this one instead.
Yeah, the whole three-arrow symbol is the leftist equivalent of swastika. But nice try sneaking obvious leftist propaganda as an objective source.