Wales - Cymru

  1. Ardruire Iacób
    Ardruire Iacób
    Nooooooo... Táim in Éire... What is/was it?

    Anyway, if they brought out Welsh accents, only Welsh people would be able to play as Wales, reducing the target market substantially...
  2. Desperado †
    Desperado †
    ? Not in Welsh, just Welsh accents. Like they have Scottish accents for Scotland.
  3. Insurgent
    Insurgent
    I heard about the Owain Glyndwr anniversary but I didn't see it...

    Yeah it is a bit lame that there are no Welsh accents on Kingdoms, but then there is only one eastern European accent for the eastern factions and only one southern European accent.

    I do think that the choice of Welsh settlements was rather poor. Cardiff was a tiny village back then, similar to the hundreds of others dotted around Wales. Caernarfon castle hadn't been built and Llywelyn's capital of Aberffaw (the true capital) on Anglesey wasn't included...

    Historically, Wales at the date the campaign starts would only own Gwynedd and Gwynedd Is Conwy. It wasn't until 1267 that Llywelyn owned what Wales own on the campaign map at the beginning of the campaign.
  4. Ardruire Iacób
    Ardruire Iacób
    Well, at least your faction actually existed. 'Ireland' back then would have been Gaelicised Normans who just didn't want to pay attention the Crown. in fact, England should only start with Dublin. All the other territories would be ruled by Hiberno-Norman families (de Brún, de Burgh, d'Arcy, Butler, Joyce, etc.) and none of them spoke English or used English law, all spoke Irish and French (in some places Spanish as well).
  5. Insurgent
    Insurgent
    Weren't there still plenty of regions in Ireland left untouched by the Normans? At the period in which the game is set weren't there still plenty of pure Gaelic nobles left fighting against Norman rule?

    Unfortunately though I know little of Irish history other than Diarmait Mac Murchada and his retreat from Ireland and then his return with the Pembrokeshire earl 'Strongbow' and the large armies they brought to invade the territories of the High King.

    But apart from the Gaelic-Norman wars I know very little so I'm very likely wrong!
  6. Ardruire Iacób
    Ardruire Iacób
    Not long after de Clare's invasion, Henri II went over to Ireland and forced their allegiance. They were forbidden from becomming 'Irish' by him, and a few decades later they spoke Irish, had Gaelic relatives, and used Irish law. Only Dublin stayed English, the rest of the country started hitting each other with sticks.

    Hell, Strongbow married Diarmait's daughter Aoife and became King of Leinster. Not exactly showing a great a deal of loyalty to Henri.

    There were purely Gaelic groups left, but they were not really any different from the Hiberno-Normans. Most were still in charge of the same areas they had ruled in 1200 when Cromwell took their land 450 years later.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Battle_of_Athenry

    According to this, it took over 100 years for the Normans to actually take power. Even then, the area was soon taken back by the O'Connors, who keep the title of king of Connacht until about 1400.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kings_of_Connacht
  7. Ardruire Iacób
    Ardruire Iacób
    What Magners League teams do ye support? You're Welsh, you must support at least six!
  8. King Edward III
    King Edward III
    No worries, I'm still here..
  9. Insurgent
    Insurgent
    I usually support the Llanelli Scarlets and Cardiff Blues. Who do you support?
  10. Ardruire Iacób
    Ardruire Iacób
    GO CONNACHT! Go out there and lose like men!
  11. Ardruire Iacób
    Ardruire Iacób
    Only an hour left 'till our inevitable defeat at the hands of the Blues!
  12. Ardruire Iacób
    Ardruire Iacób
    17 points down after 30 minutes? Ouch...
  13. Ardruire Iacób
    Ardruire Iacób
    Wow, what a defeat... Ah, well...
  14. Insurgent
    Insurgent
    Yikes, 58-0, sick on Connacht. And Llanelli lost to Glasgow . Ospreys vs Ulster today too!
  15. Ardruire Iacób
    Ardruire Iacób
    Well, I hope Ulster lose. I don't want Connacht to end up last again!
  16. Ali G
    whats up in Wales, any news or gossip?
  17. Hazzy101
    Hazzy101
    umm.... bad weather
  18. Ardruire Iacób
    Ardruire Iacób
    It's worse here. Apparently we invaded Britain because the weather was slightly better. The things you learn in university.
  19. Ali G
    Just out of curiosity, is there any chance for Wales to become independent and if it does what would be the prospects for its future?
  20. Insurgent
    Insurgent
    People often say that Wales would not survive as an independent country. It is one of the poorest regions in the British isles, mostly due to the sheep farming that is common all across Wales; a farming technique that makes little money. However in the south the cities are growing fast. Cardiff is considered one of the fastest developing cities in Europe, and if one day, if the three big cities (Cardiff, Swansea and Newport) manage to expand into each other, a large city would form and dominate Wales- earning us quite a bit of dosh and greatly strengthening the meagre Welsh economy. Also Wales could get support from the European union to give it's economy more of a boost. So yeah, I think in a few decades Wales will have what it takes to become an Independent country with a stable economy.

    It's unlikely it will happen though. Not much of the population would want it; many people living in Wales couldn't care less about Welsh independence (such as immigrants from other parts of Europe).
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