Debate away. A map of what's been seen in Fallout so far.. We can also explore the possibility of Europe or something else if we find the USA not interesting enough.
I vote that we are off the defined map. Gives us the power to do what we wish
New Orleans is actually kind of off the map. So is Quebec
New Orleans. Should be under irradiated water. Maybe a few flavoring towns above the water using the taller building and building floating raft like towns. A bunch of swamp. Who knows what voodoo is hoping on there XD
ing Mardi Gras.
Also, found these: Post-Apocalyptic map of Louisiana Post-Apocalyptic map of New Orleans Post-Apocalyptic map of the heart of New Orleans We could seriously make use of these as a base map if we do New Orleans. Also, I like the idea of having a Neo-Confederate faction, a Frenchie-faction, etc.
One of those maps mentioned a 'Liberty Militia' and a 'Sons of the Constitution'. Perhaps one of those could be our Neo-Confederate faction.
The bro confederate faction I could do a background on or any faction. I could come up with a list of potential factions with small backgrounds or one or two fully fleshed out ones. I enjoy going into details. ( I'm also thinking something like point lookout with the Cajuns and Creoles. Maybe make Cajuns a mutant confederate faction and the Creoles regressing Into tribes much like every where else with a voodoo tribal belief system. And your tradition raider factions and maybe a secret vault or enclave base
I'd rather make the Confederates sound more like an actual nation in ideology, rather than 'Sons of the Constitution' which sounds like the Brotherhood. Hence, we could call such a faction... well, just the Confederation or something. Confederate Commonwealth? Something like that. I think the Cajuns and Creoles should be semi-civilized, with the Cajuns being elitist and the Creoles being 'libertarian'. The Creole's would have the heart of whatever is post-apoc New Orleans, full with jazz and blues, culture, etc. Like a strip, a city within a city. The Cajuns would have other parts, since they are actually more rural in the real world. (I'm basing their characterization of aristocratic and democratic off of their languages: Cajun is much more like French, while Creole is a broken amalgamation of many languages). It's interesting, as they would both be pretty much the same in culture, but hate each other due to ideology and claims over the city. They would hate all other outsider factions trying to intervene in their city.
While I find your placement of the groups correct, i find that the Cajuns are more country than Southern Civilized. While they might war with each other, I dont think the Cajuns would be too hostile to outsiders, niether the Creoles. Considering we could have trade coming down the Mississippi or from the coast. New Orleans was a hot spot for activity, it would attract alot of attention considering how big of a place it was. Not to mention would could point out that alot of it is under water, maybe a crazy treasure hunter could try to put a group together to try and get at some places . Of course these are just the natives, not to mention the ghouls, mutant alligators etc. Now would this be strictly New Orleans or the city and the surrounding area? It would be good to go into detail with the map. Landmarks, settlements etc. And no matter what we decide faction wise or location wise my offer still stands
Depends. I'd have Baton Rouge being the most northern extent at most.
Sorry to derail any conversation, but I'm thinking the voodoo faction could either be more akin to a cult that practices slavery either in the voodoo zombie fashion or standard Fallout style. Would have an old riverboat it's raiders operate off of and a church for the main base? I would say whoever has the heart of New Orleans operates out of the French Quarter as it seems to be in the near center of the city. It could be a city formed from inhabitable ruins above ground still, houseboats and other ships of varying size, and above ground parts of semi-submerged buildings. With canals. Sort of like a post-apocalyptic Venice. Another faction could run the ruins of the Superdome(Provided it is still standing), and One Shell Square could be a third location. Just ideas for potential landmark/bases.
I do like that a lot. Creepy voodoo riverboat slavers. Yep. The French quarter, Marigny, Bywater, and maybe Treme are like a city within a city. I rather think the city would be above the water in those areas now, but barely.
I agree, that sounds great. Nothing like a Riverboat raid to darken your day. Coming from the sea or the river. The Voodoo tribals would be in the swamp fens, on the outskirts of the cities, yet another faction our Cajun landowner types could be fighting a turf war with. I loved the lever-action rifle from Point lookout...just a random thought, while wearing a confederate cap XD
BTW, Zect, when you said the Cajuns were 'country' types, did you mean they were 'redneck country-music folk' or did you simply mean they are more rural? Because, yeah they are more rural in the real world, which is why I think the Creoles would be more urban, but the Cajun group would be a rising group trying to dominate the rest. As for 'country music' as we know it today, I'm pretty sure that wouldn't really be in the Fallout universe, considering it's a 1950's/1960's view on nuclear winter and the future.
Cajun's being less gentry and more hick if you get my meaning. So yes Rural, maybe inclined with the good ol south. By music, im thinking Violins and a little banjo here and there XD Also : Location/environment ideas Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
I see the Cajuns as rural 'Classy Southerners' and the Creoles as urban 'Classy Southerners' in this situation. Mostly because I'm not into redneck/hick culture much. But yeah, I guess I agree with you. We shouldn't cancel out the option that Creoles and Cajuns aren't ideological, and rather just dislike each other as political-cultural groups vying for control. IE, the Cajuns might not be feudals after all. The differences would just be taste in music, language, and general manner, perhaps ways of thinking (traditional vs progressive?), and such. But otherwise, both classy southerners. Both could have powerful families too. Same with the Confederates.
What I think of with the Cajuns: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Swampfolk But yes. Classy Urbanite Creoles I agree with.
....That's sort of what I think some isolated, deep swamp community would be like, not one of the major factions.
There is one thing I am not sure about however. Even though there would be swamp and trees around New Orleans, I suspect much of that is gone now. Especially much of Lake Pontchartrain. If Stage 7 made Washington DC look the way it does 200 years after the war, I suspect not a lot of plants remain. And according to the lore, the black rain that fell for four long days a week after the Great War reportedly killed thousands of plant and animal life to the point that much of the world is a barren wasteland now. Only a very selected few plant and animal life existed after that. That is just my view though. I bet we can figure something out. And I agree with Xion.
