Kosovo is Serbia

Do you have a link for that?? There is just too much stuff on YouTube, it can take forever to find it. Thanks.

Well Russia, China and India (our allies) are rising, and the USA and "nato" countries are "falling". So time is ,in a way, working for us

Where did you get that from?

Well look around!

We romanians allways supported our serbian friends in the kosovo issue but that does not mean that we do not know the way serbian authorities treat our romanian brothers in Timoc! They are not even recognised as romanians,just as the romanians of Voijvodina are! I hope this issue will soon be solved,and our brothers from Timoc will be recognised! Freedom to the Romanians in Timoc! Kosovo je Srbija!

The Noble Lord, it is easy to find at Youtube, the name of the operation - Operacija "Strela". There is one of those of about 20 clips of standard youtube 10 minutes lenght. It is maybe 6th or 7th, interesting because there is an inetrview with Osetian volunteer Albert Andijev who lost his eye in the battle. Of course you should watch from the fist one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8JHE...eature=related

And o course WE NEED this movie with English subtitle!!

Well look around!

Russia is the country which suffered most from the crisis. EU (which consist mostly of NATO countries) is very strong and is attempting to create sort of centralised gov. India is drifting towards USA. China's economy is very dependant on export to USA, and last but not least

USA and EU owned, owns and will own those three together both military and economically.

meanwhile in Kosmet - 5 years had past since the March 17th anti-Serbian kristalnacht (Memorial service for victims of March pogrom in Kosovo-Metohija) - and the Warsaw ghetto scenario for the Serbs continues as planed:

Serbs still in danger from NATO cluster bombs

Two Serb refugee houses destroyed, Serb journalists brutally harrassed by police

Kosovo authorities create humanitarian disaster by cutting power to Serb villages

Tombstones in Serbian cemetery in southern Kosovska Mitrovica demolished

Return of Serbs to Kosovo-Metohija completely halted


and the Shqiptarian terrorists are being released to continue their bloody work

EULEX acquits sentenced Albanian bus bomber

B92 - News - Comments - Dačić: EULEX freed Albanian terrorist


Ejupi is now free to continue terrorizing the Serbs, let's remind ourselves of his efficiency so far:

2001: Serbs killed in Kosovo pilgrimage

A bomb attack on a bus convoy that was carrying more than 250 Serbs to a religious ceremony in Kosovo, has claimed the lives of at least seven people, including women and children, and injured more than 40.

Ethnic Albanian extremists, who are trying to drive Serbs out of Kosovo, have been blamed for the attack. It took place near the town of Podujevo in northern Kosovo, 40km (25 miles) north-east of the capital Pristina.
The remote-controlled bomb was detonated 400m from the road at around noon, hitting the first of five buses which had just crossed the administrative border into Kosovo from the city of Nis in Serbia.

Dozens of meters around were scattered the pieces of human remains and
personal things of passengers (click to enlarge)

Ethnic cleansing
Gorica Stjepanovic, 24, who survived the attack with eye injuries, said: "All of a sudden, everything burst, the bus seemed to have fallen apart. "Blood was dripping from the roof. When I managed to get out, parts of bodies were everywhere."
The group of Serbs, who moved to Serbia fearing ethnic Albanian attacks, were travelling to the village of Gracanica in Kosovo to visit family graves. The Orthodox Day of the Dead - 17 February - is when Serbs remember their dead.
The attack has sparked violent protests from the victims' relatives in Gracanica, who have blocked the main road into Pristina and set vehicles on fire. The convoy was accompanied by five Swedish armoured vehicles which were unaffected.
Leaders of Kosovo's Albanian majority condemned the latest attack and said it was a serious blow to attempts to build peace.

Nato called the killings "premeditated murder".


Its Secretary General George Robertson said: "Nato did not conduct its air campaign in order to see ethnic cleansing by one group replaced by the ethnic attacks and intimidation of another."
The Yugoslav Government also condemned the attack and has declared a day of national mourning for the victims. Earlier that week United Nations police came under attack in the town of Strpce after a Serbian man died while travelling in a UN convoy.

The names of killed Serbs in the bomb attack:

1. STOJANOVIĆ NENAD † (born 7. July 1943) Nis,
2. KRAGOVIĆ MILINKO † (born 5. January 1943),
3. LAZAR MILIKIĆ † (born 19. June, 1936) Lipljan,
4. DRAGAN VUKOTIƆ (born 2. November, 1954) Kosovo Polje
6. SNEŽANA COKIƆ VUKOTIC, (born 16. February, 1975), Lipljan
7. DANILO COKIƆ (born in 1999), two old child, the son of Dragan Vukotic and Snezana Cokic Vukotic
8. MIRJANA DRAGOVIĆ † (born 12. January, 1981) Laplje Selo
9. SUNČICA PEJČIĆ † (born 14. January, 1972) Pristina
10.TIHOMIR STOJKOVIĆ † (born 18. January, 1969) Kosovska Kamenica
11.IVANA TOKIĆ † (born 5. May, 1948) Skulanevo Pristina, died 10 days later due to the wounds
12.N. TOKIĆ † – Zivana's husband, died two months later due to the injuries in the bomb attack

MEMORY ETERNAL!

The EU will soon fall apart and it is not as strong as it looks like.
Italy,Germany and France are more and more seeing that the US hasn't got much to offer so they are building better relations with Russia. In the USA every month at least 500,000 people loose there jobs, The only US economical branch that is working is military and even that's not working like planed(Kosovo,Irak...). Russia was hit by the crisis but that's nothing compared to the west. Russia has earlier described her power by turning off Europe's gas!

"USA and EU owned, owns and will own those three together both military and economically."
This is funny really!
China and India own thous two economically and for the military part we'll leave that to Russia!

I hope you don't take this wrong.
The governments of USA and EU are to us enemies (as they openly work against Serbia), but the people that live in the USA and EU are not our enemies (as they don't have a say in this).

The governments of USA and EU are to us enemies (as they openly work against Serbia), but the people that live in the USA and EU are not our enemies (as they don't have a say in this).

signed - ВДК

The EU will soon fall apart and it is not as strong as it looks like.

What's your basis of that statement?

Italy,Germany and France are more and more seeing that the US hasn't got much to offer so they are building better relations with Russia.

Berlusconi has always been a Putin's , also they try to normalise relations with Russia, not to create any strong bond between them.

In the USA every month at least 500,000 people loose there jobs,

Still, their economy owns every single country and will own every single country. Crisis will affect as much other countries as US, so I find your point invalid. Also, USA has best technology and cadres, which will preserve it from loosing it's position.

The only US economical branch that is working is military

What's the basis of your statement? Perhaps some bigger research on USA's economics?

and even that's not working like planed

Military industry in USA has nothing to do with it's military defeats. USA has best arnament and best technology. And it's working quite well, as an example I will bring F22s which have no counterpart anywhere in the world, and USA Fleet.

(Kosovo,Irak...).

Kosovo is not an example of USAs military operation. Other armies are involved there as well, and as stabilization/occupation forces, their purpose is not to fight. Also, situation in Iraq is getting better and better, besides, there isn't any armour which could possibly deflect an surprise machine gun bullet, RPG or well hidden bomb. And for each killed american soldier, there are dozens of dead partisants.

Russia was hit by the crisis but that's nothing compared to the west.

It's quite contrary, really. Unless you want to argue, if so, then I'd like you to give me unbiased sources which say otherwise.

Russia has earlier described her power by turning off Europe's gas!

It was Ukraine who turned it off and really pissed off Putin. Russia cannot possibly afford turning off gas to Europe. They're dependant on it as much as EU.

"USA and EU owned, owns and will own those three together both military and economically."
This is funny really!

Not really, check out total military budget, number of soldiers(optionaly NATO's), total GDP of EU/USA, and compare it to Russian, Chinese or Indian. Hint: you can't make up weak military by sheer numbers.

China and India own thous two economically

Not really.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...y_GDP_(nominal)

and for the military part we'll leave that to Russia!

Russian military is inferior to both EU's and USA's. Its military is very weak compared to it's former glory.

I hope you don't take this wrong.
The governments of USA and EU are to us enemies (as they openly work against Serbia), but the people that live in the USA and EU are not our enemies (as they don't have a say in this).

I have no problem with that.

What's your basis of that statement?

As many of the new crop of entrants to the EU continue to struggle there are serious concerns that more established members such as the UK, France and Germany will be forced to fund substantial bailouts at a time when their own national debt has moved out of control. A number of observers have been fairly critical of the rapid growth in the EU which many believe could prove very costly to all the EU members.
Two day's ago Angela Merkel said that there's not going to be any more entries in the EU with the exception of Croatia!
The biggest countries in the EU (UK, Germany, Italy...) have big problems with the amount of people ,coming from the Eastern block countries,to work!
The richest countries(UK) are taking the biggest subventions from the EU budget , shouldn't it be the other way around!
Your country doesn't have the same vote as lets say France, shouldn't all members be the same?
The EU parliament is incapable and incompetent!
It's ironically that there's not unity in the EU on many matters.
It wont be a surprise when it falls apart!

Berlusconi has always been a Putin's , also they try to normalise relations with Russia, not to create any strong bond between them.

Trade exchange in between Italy and Russia yearly is 80 billion USD.
Germany & Russia 65 billion USD.
France & Russia 45 billion USD.
So...

Military industry in USA has nothing to do with it's military defeats. USA has best arnament and best technology. And it's working quite well, as an example I will bring F22s which have no counterpart anywhere in the world, and USA Fleet.

Well I think we all know why the US makes (Humanitarian) wars!
So that countries like Germany and Poland (NATO countries) can pay every missile, bullet and any other cost in the conflict!
Then they send your "peace kippers" that are equipped with there supplies(that again your country has to pay)!
Besides that they start exploiting for example oil (Irak).

Well sometimes even the biggest budgets and the best technology doesn't mean that it's impenetrable, as an example the F117A stealth technology.
So it's invisible to radar, BUT it was struck down on the 27^th of March 1999 by the Serbian PVO (Anti air defense).
We also took down the B-2 bomber (also stealth).
Not to mention the number of F16's!
So that's little Serbia against the whole NATO so I can just guess what "thous three" countries would do!

Not really.

China has 3,5 billion shears in the US and not to mention the US depth to China.
So...

Russian military is inferior to both EU's and USA's. Its military is very weak compared to it's former glory.

This is funny especially the EU part!
I see how inferior it was in Georgia!

It was Ukraine who turned it off and really pissed off Putin. Russia cannot possibly afford turning off gas to Europe. They're dependant on it as much as EU.

Russia is dependent on gas export to Europe but it can last much longer then the EU with out Russia!

I have no problem with that.

As many of the new crop of entrants to the EU continue to struggle there are serious concerns that more established members such as the UK, France and Germany will be forced to fund substantial bailouts at a time when their own national debt has moved out of control.

Actually, it's the France who wanted EU to spend 100 miliards Euro on each eastern european country in order to save hungary & few other countries(such as Baltic states) from bankrupcy. Happily, it was abandoned after intervention from Polish & Czech prime ministers. But Europe can afford such actions.

A number of observers have been fairly critical of the rapid growth in the EU which many believe could prove very costly to all the EU members.

Complains started when some of the newest countires of EU (mentioned above) went bankrupt, and after Romania rendered to have big problems with corruption. Other states are doing quite well.

Two day's ago Angela Merkel said that there's not going to be any more entries in the EU with the exception of Croatia!

But who could possibly enter EU except for Croatia? Serbia? Turkey? Ukraine? There's hardly a state which could enter EU.

The biggest countries in the EU (UK, Germany, Italy...) have big problems with the amount of people ,coming from the Eastern block countries,to work!

Not really, for UK it's actually beneficial, as it sucks out the best cadres from e.european countries and gets good and cheap workforce. Germany doesn't allow e-Europeans to work in their country, so they don't have much problems with that- instead, their biggest problem is growing Turkish and Muslims population.
And Italy have problems with Balkan Romas, (Tsigani), not with e-Europeans.

The richest countries(UK) are taking the biggest subventions from the EU budget , shouldn't it be the other way around!

It is the other way around, actually

Your country doesn't have the same vote as lets say France, shouldn't all members be the same?

No. It's based on it's activity in EU, economics and population. In all those, France is superior to Poland. So I can live with that.

The EU parliament is incapable and incompetent!

Which parliament isn't? But that's the problem of EU citzens, who are voting for incompetent/incapable members.

It's ironically that there's not unity in the EU on many matters.

No, it's not. Only in totalitarism there's unity in politics.

It wont be a surprise when it falls apart!

It would be.

Trade exchange in between Italy and Russia yearly is 80 billion USD.
Germany & Russia 65 billion USD.
France & Russia 45 billion USD.
So...

Following your logics, China and USA are biggest allies, as their tradeexchange is few times bigger... It's trade, not politics.

Well I think we all know why the US makes (Humanitarian) wars!
So that countries like Germany and Poland (NATO countries) can pay every missile, bullet and any other cost in the conflict!

Not a single bullet was paid for by Germany and Poland. Actually, it's the USA who is giving Germany and Poland refunds. USA does not suck money from NATO countries.

Then they send your "peace kippers" that are equipped with there supplies(that again your country has to pay)!

If a country wants superior American arnament, then it has actually to pay. If not, they can fight with their own.

Besides that they start exploiting for example oil (Irak).

Yes, they do. And what?

Well sometimes even the biggest budgets and the best technology doesn't mean that it's impenetrable, as an example the F117A stealth technology.

It was 20 years old by then, now it's nearly 30 years old and is no longer used

So it's invisible to radar, BUT it was struck down on the 27th of March 1999 by the Serbian PVO (Anti air defense).
We also took down the B-2 bomber (also stealth).
Not to mention the number of F16's!

Offical statisctic say that there was one F16 shot down and one F-117.

So that's little Serbia against the whole NATO so I can just guess what "thous three" countries would do!

More, but eventually would obviously lose the war.

China has 3,5 billion shears in the US and not to mention the US depth to China.
So...

So?

This is funny especially the EU part!
I see how inferior it was in Georgia!

ROTFL It was not NATO who fought in Georgia. Unless of course you want to say that tiny Georgian military on western sterids could possibly defeat weak equipped freakin numerous Russian military Not to mention that Gerorgian military entered a Russian trap.

So funny my ass

Russia is dependent on gas export to Europe but it can last much longer then the EU with out Russia!

No. There's a gas in Norway as well, and EU has big oil and gas reserves. Russian economy is dependent on gas and oil trade to europe and don't have so much 'money reserves' which could probaly save their economy from collapse.

Waiting for your response

Actually, it's the France who wanted EU to spend 100 miliards Euro on each eastern european country in order to save hungary & few other countries(such as Baltic states) from bankrupcy. Happily, it was abandoned after intervention from Polish & Czech prime ministers. But Europe can afford such actions.
Complains started when some of the newest countires of EU (mentioned above) went bankrupt, and after Romania rendered to have big problems with corruption. Other states are doing quite well.
Not really, for UK it's actually beneficial, as it sucks out the best cadres from e.european countries and gets good and cheap workforce. Germany doesn't allow e-Europeans to work in their country, so they don't have much problems with that- instead, their biggest problem is growing Turkish and Muslims population.
And Italy have problems with Balkan Romas, (Tsigani), not with e-Europeans.
No. It's based on it's activity in EU, economics and population. In all those, France is superior to Poland. So I can live with that.
Which parliament isn't? But that's the problem of EU citzens, who are voting for incompetent/incapable members.

I didn't ask you to help me but ok, I see your getting it!

But who could possibly enter EU except for Croatia? Serbia? Turkey? Ukraine? There's hardly a state which could enter EU.

Ya, that's right Croatia is totally for the EU especially because they ethnicly cleansed the country by exiling 300 000 Serbs!(a real democratic country)
For a second there I though the EU is democratic!

It is the other way around, actually

Keep telling your self that!
By your logic's the rich countries are so generous!
Every thing is interest and that's why thous "rich" countries are in the EU, and for the same reason the poorer counties entered(lets guess who's going to get the good bit).
Yes until now ,we can say, every one was getting good out of it, but the conditions have changed.

No, it's not. Only in totalitarism there's unity in politics.

It doesn't have to be totalitarism in order to be unity.
By your logic unity is bad?!

It would be.

It's a bit childish i :" it wouldn't -it would!"
Don't you think?

Following your logics, China and USA are biggest allies, as their tradeexchange is few times bigger... It's trade, not politics.

Thanks for pointing that out!
That's because of China's huge export!
Your saying things that are contrary!
Who said that when you do trade you have to be allies?

Not a single bullet was paid for by Germany and Poland. Actually, it's the USA who is giving Germany and Poland refunds. USA does not suck money from NATO countries.

Ya that's write
There peace keepers!!!
If you produce a lot of arms and armor you have to sell it some were!
So why not make a conflict?!

Yes, they do. And what?

So you'll have no problem for (for example) Russians coming into (for example) Poland and start exploiting there natural riches?!

It was 20 years old by then, now it's nearly 30 years old and is no longer used

It was at the time the most advanced air craft!
The point is ,that it's invisible and it was struck down by a few decades older air defense!

Offical statisctic say that there was one F16 shot down and one F-117.

Then thous statistics are wrong!

More, but eventually would obviously lose the war.

Once more!

So?

So America doesn't """own""" China in any way!

ROTFL It was not NATO who fought in Georgia. Unless of course you want to say that tiny Georgian military on western sterids could possibly defeat weak equipped freakin numerous Russian military Not to mention that Gerorgian military entered a Russian trap.

So funny my ass

The Georgian army was equipped with US arms and was trained by the US army!
But my point was the reaction of the "NATO".

No. There's a gas in Norway as well, and EU has big oil and gas reserves. Russian economy is dependent on gas and oil trade to europe and don't have so much 'money reserves' which could probaly save their economy from collapse.

So stop using Russian gas!!!

Waiting for your response

No hard feelings man!

I didn't ask you to help me but ok, I see your getting it!

These aren't problems which cannot be dealt with, or which could possibly cause EU's fall.

Ya, that's right Croatia is totally for the EU especially because they ethnicly cleansed the country by exiling 300 000 Serbs!(a real democratic country)
For a second there I though the EU is democratic!

Democratic doesn't mean automatically mean that it has no sins in the past or that is flawless. Besides, it was good few years ago. Serbians aren't angels too, besides, they started all this mess.

And EU is democratic. If you want argue it is not, then let's do that via PM.

Keep telling your self that!
By your logic's the rich countries are so generous!

They can have interests in giving someone money, nothing more. And they can afford that.

Every thing is interest and that's why thous "rich" countries are in the EU, and for the same reason the poorer counties entered(lets guess who's going to get the good bit).

Yes. I agree with ya on that point.

Yes until now ,we can say, every one was getting good out of it, but the conditions have changed.

In which way?

It doesn't have to be totalitarism in order to be unity.

Yes? So point out when, f.e. was ever your entire parliament completly united?

By your logic unity is bad?!

It's unachievable. And it depends on what they're united for/against. Certainly variety and opposition helps self-improving (by providing motivation for it) and provides neccesary criticism.

Ya that's write
There peace keepers!!!
If you produce a lot of arms and armor you have to sell it some were!
So why not make a conflict?!

That's not a issue of European states, but USA. If EU state gets involved, it means that it has interest in making situation the way USA wants it to be.

So you'll have no problem for (for example) Russians coming into (for example) Poland and start exploiting there natural riches?!

Well, Poland is able to repel Russia ;D
On the serious note, Russia has no problem with exploating Caucasus and Chechnya. Also, we try not to mess with USA/Russia in the way Saddam had messed.

It was at the time the most advanced air craft!
The point is ,that it's invisible and it was struck down by a few decades older air defense!

That's one aircraft. One of thousand. And you couldn't really do anything about the fact that NATO is bombing Serbia.
The Georgian army was equipped with US arms and was trained by the US army! Still, it is not USA army nor it does not have anything which was extraordinary new or effective. If USA gives something, then it's usually outdated and out-of-use american weaponry.

But my point was the reaction of the "NATO".

Like what? It invaded Russia? xD

So stop using Russian gas!!!

What for? We don't need another war. And gas is pretty cheap now

Democratic doesn't mean automatically mean that it has no sins in the past or that is flawless.

Ya of course, but if you do not allow thous people to come back now (In the present NOT past),then it's not a "past" problem it continues!!!
And just to mention the 2 000 000 killed Serbs in WW1 and WW2.

Besides, it was good few years ago. Serbians aren't angels too, besides, they started all this mess.

And EU is democratic. If you want argue it is not, then let's do that via PM.

I see your highly uninformed of the situation in the Balkans!
Well yes if you consider breaking the low a democratic act!

They can have interests in giving someone money, nothing more. And they can afford that.

Not anymore!

In which way?

financially!

It's unachievable. And it depends on what they're united for/against.

Yes, and thank God there not united on the matter of Kosovo.

Certainly variety and opposition helps self-improving (by providing motivation for it) and provides neccesary criticism.

I approve on that, a strong opposition is needed for good improving.

That's not a issue of European states, but USA. If EU state gets involved, it means that it has interest in making situation the way USA wants it to be.

It's an issue of the NATO countries (most(all) EU members) that are participants in it.
That is they do what there told to.

Well, Poland is able to repel Russia ;D
On the serious note, Russia has no problem with exploating Caucasus and Chechnya. Also, we try not to mess with USA/Russia in the way Saddam had messed.

As I said it was just an example!
and for the first part !
I don't know wen it was the last time you saw the map of the world(Chechnya is in the Russian Federation).
But even if they exploited some other countries natural riches your okay with it as you said:"Yes, they do. And what?"Ya Saddam messed with his nuclear weapon!

Like what? It invaded Russia? xD

Well I didn't even hear a word from the west to the "inferior" Russians!
An invasion would mean the end of them both.

What for? We don't need another war. And gas is pretty cheap now

Ok, as I said stop using it then.

Spain will leave Kosovo before summer because the disagreement with the actual status of the serbian province, NATO angry with Spain.

I think NATO mission in Kosovo wasnt 100% a peace mission there, it was biased and pro-albanian so the spanish peace mission there have lost his first meaning.


cheers!

Today is the 10th anniversary of the NATO aggression on FRY/Serbia.

Just a few minutes ago, the air raid sirens went on in memory of over 3000 Serbian soldiers and civilians (of all nationalities) fallen for freedom.

The commemoration rally in downtown Belgrade starts at 19:00h

"10 years of NATO occupation in Serbia!"



"10 years of NATO terrorism over Serbia"




"10 years since the aggression - Serbia is the world - World against the NATO"

For those of you unable to attend, here is some related reading:
1999-2009: Ten Years Since Criminal NATO Aggression and Occupation ...


International Conference Commemorating 10 Years Since NATO ...


Nato's 'good war' in Kosovo degraded international law


Dačić: UDI is "continued NATO aggression"

VIDEO: US-NATO War Crimes: "Humanitarian Intervention" Challenged10 year commemoration of the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia



Remembering the 1999 NATO led War on Yugoslavia: Kosovo "Freedom Fighters" Financed by Organized Crime- by Michel Chossudovsky - 2009-03-24


Balkans: Staging Ground For NATO's Post-Cold War Order- by Rick Rozoff - 2009-02-09

My friend 4th Regiment, thanks for that link to "Operation Arrow" on the YouTube. I made all my friends and all our girlfriends watch it. They were all amazed at the Serbian insistence on resisting against such a odds.

@Vojvoda Dragutin Keserovic
Nice article.

You are welcome Noble Lord. Still waiting for English subtitle/translation :-(