Speaking of politicians, I'm watching football last night, Austria vs. Serbia (1:3), and it was one of the greatest scenes ever: First half under way, around 12.000 Serbian fans on ''Ernst Happel'' completely outvoiced almost 40.000 Austrians - among them, in VIP section, some 50 or so top Austrian politicians, cream of the crops.... 14min. - Krasić nails the first goal and the Serbian crowd explodes, flares and torches go up (camera quickly moves away from the spot - following the FIFA regulations not to advertise torches on TV) and soon there's a smokescreen infront of the Serbian goal.... soon after, Serbia scores two more goals, from that moment on, you could only hear the Serbs shouting in the middle of Vienna - most of all chanting ''Kosovo is the heart of Serbia''... But the most memorable was the view on the faces of the politicians in the VIP louge - it's like 1918 all over again, moreover, the entire stadium is terrified of the Serbian crowd - it's like they're asking thgemselves: ''are we gonna survive as a nation after this?'' - the same question they asked themselves in 1918 after we kicked their face all the way to Triglav Austria - Srbija (1:3), 15.10.08, Vienna,
I'm not a fan of anyone nor do I attack certain politicians or parties around here as you do and as Vlad started to do after your comments, that's all I'm saiying, this is not Serbian group, it's not a place where we should settle our political diferences. But if anyone feel the need to expres it's political oppinions around here he's free to do it and I won't stop him, let's turn this into the SerbsVsSerbs group...
technically speaking, VLAD is a Romanian and myself am 25% of Hungarian descent, so it's not entirely ''Serbs vs. Serbs'' But, anyways, I'll stop attacking Tadić for the time being, let's see how things play out with the court ruling.... I'm not an optimist, but I keep my fingers crossed despite of my opposition...
As far as I'm concerned Tadic is totaly capable to suggest recognition of Kosovo, but 'till he doesn't do that I can't attack him over that matter, he and goverment seem that they are doing the best they can. If they even mention recognition as possibility I'll be the first one to jump on them...
Are these massacres in Bosnia by serbs true ? I was never really interested but also wasn't eager to believe the western media. So clarify it for me once and for all.
Of course there were massacres commited by the Serbs under various circumstances but they were quite blowen out of proportion and it is often forgoten by the West that Muslims and Croats did pretty much same things to Serbs in Bosnia as well: http://4international.wordpress.com/...a-and-gorazde/
thanks guys for your understanding, cause i could not understand a thing @jimmy spong: you are wrong, russia and greece feel friendly towards serbia. i do not know about the governments attitudes over time, but citizens feel that way and that is more important than some useless politicians that every country in the world has in her parliament. by the way macedonia is not the word i like to see when people mention about F.Y.R.O.M. of course it is your right to call them the way u feel, but it makes me feel bad the fact that people call them macedonians when they are bulgarians who lived in southern ex yugoslavia. @clandestino: you are right and i like your attitude and honesty. unfortunately in every case, truth is the first casualty in both sides. so, the fact that most people think-believe that, the serbians only did crimes and massacres is wrong. they just want to pretend they do not know what the other side did, or are stupid enough to believe the other side was acting in good way but u were are and will always be the terrorist of the balkans (they include greece quite often with you). anyway things are not always the way they look or seem and u know it better than me in this case friends
as George cloney said "difference in opinions , and right now , i don't give a for yours" for me , they are Macedonians , and they are not Bulgar . called that way by the territory they live on
I'm sorry for people from Rep. Macedonia, and they are our good friends ... but look reality, they are not Greeks, but Slavs!.........Makedonia historical name is Greek!.....
that's my point. vlad got it. since they are slavs they cannot pretend they are the heirs of great alexander. it is like if a turkish or greek or albanian wants to take your history as theirs when in reality he has no right!
yes they r slavs , macedonian slacs , the macedonians they r not heirs of alexander but they have a right on name Macedonia
@clandestino - well a lot of info I didn't go through all of it. But to ally yourself with the jews is not the best idea. This by itself compromises it. But I will believe you cause of our friendship. So how much were totally slaughtered on each side ?
The Albanians from Kosovo would then need to be called Serbs!because the territory name.. And Bulgarians called-Thracian,Hungarians called-Dacian:
yes , but Albanians fortunately got other name by other territory , while Macedonians have their name on different territory they still live on since 100.... ?
jimmy earlier you said that "macedonians" are slavs right? and then you said they still live on 100...? what about the real macedonians from the ancient times? yes i am talking about the Greek Macedonians. they live there before slavs from fyrom or any other slavs reached balkans, at least 1000 years earlier than them. what should be the name for them according to your thoughts? ex macedonians???
anyway sorry for the off topic posts about macedonia and the name dispute. what about kosovo? any news of what is going on there?
slavs live on that territory since 1000 and maybe earlier... greek macedons live in southern macedonia around historical city of thessaloniki , center of macedonian territory , but macedonians didnt name it after u , or ancient macedonia , they named it after old turkish province , and a part of that ancient TERRITORY . such as a synonim for USA is america , so should other inhabitants of american continet complain ?
i do not care for the usa and the american continent. we have our own problems to solve first before we get interested in the other side of the planet. if that is fine for them, then i will not start a thread to create a problem. in the Greek versus FYROM case though it is different. check my signature if u want to learn a few things about the REAL Macedonians. the fact that FYROM's citizens control a part of macedonia is like saying that the germans who had the HOLY ROMAN empire were romans, or because venice, rome, ottomans controlled parts of greece i can claim roman - ottoman- venetian history as mine when it is clearly not. anyway, any news from kosovo guys?
Eulex threatening to establish it's "authority" on the "entire territory of Kosovo" - Serbs of Kosovo persistent in their opposition to this occupying clique - official Belgrade in denial (insisting that UN must first approve "Eulex", blind for the fact that the "Eulex" is resolved to implement the rejected "Ahtissari "plan"" with or without the UN approval). In other words - buisnis as usual...
Vlad Felix,where do you dig out these awesome wolves from ?
