Just Finished Reading The Army of the Indian Moghuls

  1. Ashu-Siralis
    Ashu-Siralis
    It's funny how Jos Gommans contradicts everything William Irvine said. William Irvine is exhibit A of orientalism.
  2. Babur
    Babur
    Jos Gommans' book is pretty good, William Irvine was writing during British Raj though
  3. Ashu-Siralis
    Ashu-Siralis
    Yeah. Gommans' book was very interesting. I want to read more on a cursory remark he made about how mounted archery kinda died out later on. I wonder why that was?
  4. Babur
    Babur
    probably due to the fact that as the Mughal Empire declined it was less easy to access horses from Central Asia and elsewhere
  5. Ashu-Siralis
    Ashu-Siralis
    That was my theory, but this is what his book said:

    "only the COMBINATION of (old) European drill and discipline with new,
    standardized weoponry (flintlocks, bayonets, cartridges, mobile
    field-artillery) made the real difference in the eighteenth century. For
    European armies this was a natural development from within an already
    existing infantry tradition; in South Asia this required some major
    rethinking which took more time and thus came (just) too late." (168)

    I wanted to get some more reading material from him. Unfortunately, Gunpowder and Firearms by Iqtidar Alam Khan is just not economical for me to get. Do you have any secret stores/libraries/torrent sites where you think I can get it from?
  6. Ashu-Siralis
    Ashu-Siralis
    162, rather.
  7. Babur
    Babur
    well do you have the osprey on the Mughals?
  8. Ashu-Siralis
    Ashu-Siralis
    Who wrote it? I wanted that particular book because A) it's academic and B) it's Iqtidaar Alam Khan and C) it should answer some qs I have.
  9. Ashu-Siralis
    Ashu-Siralis
    Ahh, Nicolle, meh. Already read one orientalist this week :p I'll check it
  10. Ashu-Siralis
    Ashu-Siralis
    he suggested reading "The Asian Military Revolution." He thinks the reason was purely military.
  11. Ashu-Siralis
    Ashu-Siralis
    Gommans, J.J.L. to me
    show details 2:06 PM (21 minutes ago)
    There is no recent literature on this issue - the older stuff is covered
    in my book. I feel, the reasons are mainly military, but also partly
    economic and cultural. For wider comparisons, have a look at Lorge's
    recent The Asian Military Revolution.
    With all good wishes,

    Jos Gommans
  12. Ashu-Siralis
    Ashu-Siralis
    10 Bucks on Kindle
  13. Babur
    Babur
    how did you contact him?
  14. Ashu-Siralis
    Ashu-Siralis
    email. Google 'em That's what I always do
  15. Babur
    Babur
    lol I didn't know that he actually reads emails sent to him
  16. Ashu-Siralis
    Ashu-Siralis
    Surprisingly, most profs that I emailed do!
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