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Old January 25, 2006, 07:18 PM / Why Bohemia Should be in   #1
 
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How could CA look over Bohemia?

Why don't they just remove Poland and Hungary while they are at it.

If you look at the statistics you got 11 West European factions (England, Scotland, France, HRE, Spain, Portugal, Milan, Venice, Sicily, Danes, and Papacy) versus 3 East European (Poland, Hungary, and Rus-not Russia, Byzantine would hardly fit into any of these categories).

Having two Rus factions would be nice and appropriate for history.

Lithuania would also be a nice choice, but if (hypothetically) there could be only one spot to change I would go for Bohemia.

Lithuania would be my second choice.

OK, now. Let's consider Bohemia.

Around the time the game begins, Bohemia is already an established kindom. However the title is not hereditary so Przemysl dynasty loses the title, but continues to exist as dukedom with added privileges (freedom from the emperor) (if you think that this somehow makes them any less then consider that officially English kings were vassals to their French counter part, and much like the English, Czechs too fought against their so-called lord). While Przemysls were virtually kings they didn't have the official title until late 12th c. From then on, the Przemysl dynast became one of the greatest in Europe (and one of the longest too-400 years).

Many Bohemian Kings have entered into all-European consciousness in form of myths, lengends, and tales. St. Wenceslaus and OttakarII are among the most famous. In fact, OttakarII was given homage to by Dante who wrote about him in the "Divine Commedy" as one of his greates contemporaries. Ottakar II was dubbed the king of "Gold and Steel" for his many courageos and ambitious deeds. He assembled a crusade into Prussia where he built Konigsberg, the future capital of German Prussia. He also planted the roots of Teutonic (later Prussian) domination of Baltic for the next hundreds of years. He met his end on the field of Durnkrut where a combined army of the HREmperor Frederik and his Hungarian ally have defeated him. This battle is known as the largest one fought among knights (the riders of steel).

However, this didn't signal the end of Bohemian significance. The Przemyslids were still prestigous enough that they be called into Hungary and Poland to rule their country. Shortly after the native Czech dynasty was replaced by Luxembourgs.

Those made Bohemia into an even greater power. Under Karel IV., Prague became HRE's capital and its most advanced city. It became the cultural center of Europre even, as Karel was a great patron of arts and learning. Humanist movement found its shelter in Prague. This later influenced Czech Humanists such as Jan Amos Komensky and Jan Hus. Jan Hus would later play a great role as someone who influenced Luther and Calvin.

In the last stage of Bohemia's significance, the country transformed into an aggregation closely resembling the features of a nation state. Awareness of being a Czech was pushed to the fore by religious and military leaders. Jan Zizka emerged as a briliant tactician who was never defeated by the imperialist armies that always outnumbered him. All Zizka had were untrained peaseant of War Wagons.

Here are some other readings that confirm Bohemia's significance:

"The Kingdom of Bohemia-Moravia continued its independent status within the Holy Roman Empire, and its territory further expanded so that by the end of fourteenth century it had become the leading power in Central Europe [side not from me- this area include everything between Easte Germany to West Ukraine and Lithuania to Greece]. Inittially, the expansive interests of Bohemia's rulers were directed southward, when in 1251, even before he became"

it continues on this link:

http://www.stratcommandcenter.com/forums/i...pe=post&id=2540

and ends here (check out the map, the territory that belonged to Bohemia- from Baltic to Adriatic almost):

http://www.stratcommandcenter.com/forums/i...pe=post&id=2541


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