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| Europa Barbarorum II A total conversion mod of M2TW set in the classical era, starting in 272BC. |
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Rifleman
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Greetings Europa Barbarorum fans. ![]() Today we are proud to present the first preview of the Getai faction, who once again shall be appearing in Europa Barbarorum. The Hellenes have long feared the "barbarians" that live beyond the mountains. And well they should, for they are their distant cousins and fanatic warriors, without anything to lose other than their ethos. ![]() Faction Description Sarmis Basileus, we are your people. Yet we are divided. ![]() The faction symbol for the Getai depicts a Dracones on a wooden shield backdrop.
![]() __Getians__________________________ __Thracians___________________________ The Warriors of the Getai Getikoi Stratiotai (Dacian Light Phalanx) ![]() ![]() ![]() The tribes that came into contact with the Hellenic poleis founded on the western shores of the Pontos Euxeinos formed a distinct breed of warriors. These men were renowned for their fierceness, and all Makedonian expeditions sent against them effectively disappeared in the "Getic wasteland", while Makedonian kings like Lysimachos knew Getic captivity. Their contact with the Hellenic poleis made them well familiarized with the phalanx formation. These men are equipped with a variety of Phrygian, Chalcidian and Montefortino helmets, various types of leather armour and the thureos shield. Their main weapon is a taru spear, which is the bread-and-butter of Thacian armies, and a sica should they be forced into fighting close-quarter battles in sieges or mountain skirmishes. Historically, Getai tribes such as the Krobyzii and the Ordes who traded with the Hellenes were heavily Hellenized. They were praised and feared as mercenaries by Odrysai and Hellenes alike.The experience they gethered during the invasion of Makedonia as well as the expeditions of Phillipos and Megas Alexandros against them proved to be a decisive into shaping their distinct battlefield role in the Getai armies and allowed them victories over both Hellenes and Romanii. Due to the more relaxed phalanx they adopted and favored by their light armor the Hellenes often engaged them against non-phalanx medium infantry, like peltastai or thureophoroi.Impressed by their prowness Herodotos wrote that these Getai were “the bravest and most righteous of all Thraikians”. Most take this to mean they were the most dogmatic of the Thraikians, fitting the religious zeal the Getai often showed later. They often showed pragmatism when dealing with the Hellenic colonies, often forcing these into a protectorate status; their direct commercial and cultural contacts with the poleis helped them to rapidly advance to high degrees of civilization, although their tribal traditions still held strong. The Getikoi Stratiotai are dependable, phalanx-capable medium infantry, drawn from the more-Hellenized Getic tribes. Getikoi Hippotoxotai (Dacian Horse-Archers) ![]() ![]() The Getai horse archers have a long and proud tradition, having developed superb skills in confrontations with the Skythai and Sauromatai. These Getai "who believe they are immortals" were the only tribes of the Thraikians whose horsemen confronted Dareios in his expedition against the Skythai in 514 BC “who resisting to the point of senselessness were immediately subdued and forced to follow the huge Persian army, even though they are the bravest and most righteous of all Threikes", as Herodotos notes.They are to be used to harass enemy infantry with endless showers of arrows, forceing them to break their formation and than vanish into the wilderness. Their sicas enable them to make swift thrusts into the enemy flanks, and run down fleeing enemies. However, one should never engage them in prolonged close quarters battle. Historically, the Getic horsemen won the admiration of the Hellenes when they decided to engage Dareios in Mykra Skythia; and they must have won the admiration of Dareios, as after their eventual defeat, they were pressed into service within the Persian army. Their numbers were large; Thoukydides notes, referring to the great army of supposedly 150,000 men, a third of it cavalry, recruited by the Odrysian king Sitalkes: "the largest part of the cavalry was provided by the Getai." Regarding their tactics, their skill at wielding the composite bow transformed them into efficient killers while their hit-and-run tactics learnt from their Steppe cousins kept them out of harm's way.These Getai warriors are semi-nomadic shepherds and fishermen and mostly hail from the Tyragetai living in Mykra Scythia or from the Agathyrsoi living inside the arch of the Karpathia. These mounted tribesmen are a force to be reckoned with, skilled in mounted archery, which they have learned through long years of training and frequent wars with raiders from the steppe. Komatai (Dacian Skirmishers) ![]() ![]() ![]() The Komatai, also called ‘Daoi’ or ’Wolves,’ are the bread-and-butter of the Getai tribes. Unbent and untamed shepherds and farmers, they are still capable of versatile manoeuvres on the battlefield. They fight bare-headed to assure the gods of their fervor and willingness to arrive at their side. The Komatai go to battle wearing studded leather armor, baggy trousers and a thureos shield, borrowed from the Galatai who used to co-exist with them inside the Karpathian arch, before their migration which resulted in the distruction of Helis. Their weapons are a bundle of javelins and a sica, which is the Getai weapon-of-choice because of its cleaving action and light weight. They are best used as skirmishers for their traditional hit-and-run tactics and can be deadly in forests. If forced into melee they can hold their own against other light and even some medium infantry. Historically, the Komatai were the perfect example of the transitional process of the tribal communities to a stately structure. They were free farmers and shepherds, still gathering at the tribe’s calling, but the tribe’s calling was increasingly a response to a call from a tribal union or from the Basileus himself. By the middle of the third century BC large unions of tribes had begun to fight for the hegemony in the area from the Karpathes to the Istros. The Komatai made up the vast majority of warriors, while the disparities between the Komatai and the noble Tarabostes grew to an even greater extent. The Getic warriors were renowned for their zeal in battle—it was rumored that they did not fear death because of their belief in the immortality of their souls. Untamed warriors capable of versatile maneuvers on the battlefield, these men fight bare-headed to assure the gods of their fervor and willingness to arrive at their side. Komatai Epilektoi (Dacian Elite Skirmishers) ![]() ![]() ![]() The Komatai Epilektoi are, literally, a unit of chosen Komatai, rewarded for the value shown in battle with better equipment and training. The basic komatai, equipped as fast-moving, hard-hitting skirmishers, made up a large percentage of most tribal armies, along with a number of archers and a mix of cavalry. Selected for their better equipment and superior physical abilities, the Komatai Epilektoi are a step beyond the standard Komatai. Some of them are equipped with the same studded leather armour of the Stratiotai, worn over woolen shirts. Most of these men also wear greaves under their trousers and a simple bronze montefortino helmet. They also can afford higher quality shields and better weapons: two heavier, well-made iron throwing spears and a Celtic long-sword are fairly standard. With their better equipment, they can stand in the battle line. Really, they are best used as ambushers and flankers, or for quick assaults against formations against which the other Komatai would falter. Like many other Getai units, they are vulnerable to ranged fire, especially from the flanks or rear. so be sure to screen them when conducting hit-and-run attacks. Historically,when the Galatai migration destroyed Helis and scattered the Ordes it became clear to the Basileus that new tactics had to be employed to counter the devastating might of a Keltic army.The light sica wasn't simply a match for the heavier Keltic longsword. After previously adopting the thureos in favor of the outdated hoplon, the Getai ware forced to adopt further Keltic inovasions such as the Montefortino and longswords.The heavier equipment meant the appearance of a more permanent army, which was picked from veteran and Karpathian Komatai such as the Predavensoi and Apulii who had the required stamina to hold their own with their new equipment.These veterans had experienced the Keltic hammer and knew how to counter it. The Komatai Epilektoi are medium infantry excelling at hand-to-hand combat. They are lighter than most medium infantry, preferring mobility over protection. Basileus And Dracones ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Signature Banners Feel free to use these new sig banners for the Getai fans! ![]() ![]() We hope you have enjoyed this preview of the Getai Faction in Europa Barbarorum II.
![]() "Death Smiles at Us All,all a Man Can Do Is Smile Back." Maximvs Decimvs Meridivs, Commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions, Iberian Gladiator. Last edited by jmrc; October 24, 2009 at 07:31 PM. |
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![]() "Death Smiles at Us All,all a Man Can Do Is Smile Back." Maximvs Decimvs Meridivs, Commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions, Iberian Gladiator. |
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Drummer and Fifer
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AWESOME
'I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "Oh Lord, make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it.' -Voltaire
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Colour Sergeant
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Great preview,
However there are a number of things that I am not sure seem right in my eyes when looking at this preview (sorry for opinion) i, The shields don't look big enough to protect the whole body, this can be noticed in this screenshot when compared to the Greek warrior http://i.imagehost.org/view/0525/Komatai10 . Also weren't the Getai known for their light almost white linen tunics? green seems to predominate amongst the warrior's tunics here, with the exception of the Komatai Epilektoi. Lastly Getai shields were known to be quite elaborately decorated compared to other barbarians such as the Celts, with almost floral patternation but those shown are more simplified. Love the battle action screenshots looks like the Mod is progressing well. ![]()
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Light Infantryman
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Loved the Getai in EB. Great to see them coming along nicely. Can't wait to play them in EBII
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Rifleman
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I like most especially the artwork. I recall someone a while back, perhaps at the first look at the hoplitoi, who was concerned the graphics were not up to snuff. I think this preview shows that those pics simply weren't the best, because these are simply amazing.
Deus posuit, id decuit, ergo fecit.
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Chosen Man
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Great preview, +rep! Can't wait for this mod, it will be AMAZING!
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Grenadier
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great preview keep it coming
+rep can't wait to play EBII
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Frozen Murabitun
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This is simply brilliant!!!! I imagine the rest. And I can't sit calmly here, seeing that stunner!
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Major General
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH !!!!!!!!!!
I knew there was something great about this day ! ![]() Rest in Peace Calvin ![]() April 28, 1975 - October 28, 2009 The day TWC lost a heroe... ![]() ![]() ![]() +_-E-cL-V-4-R-cL-0-_+ Last edited by eddy_purpus; October 25, 2009 at 04:04 PM. |
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Light Infantryman
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Awesome work!
Btw is there a new province between Scythia Micra and Scythia? Can't wait to see the rest of changes made to the map! |
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Ensign
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Amazing
but the horses of the Getikoi Hippotoxotai look too small ingame. Last edited by Seleukos_I.; October 25, 2009 at 06:02 AM. |
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Drummer and Fifer
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Looking very good !!
One thing though, arn't the swords (especially the ones the Komatai carry) a bit small? Anyway, my compliments on another very well made preview! |
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Light Infantryman
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Quartermaster Sergeant
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Well I'm not an historian to answer completely your question but I'll say how they are composed. -the sizes of the shields are of 1*0.46m and 88*53cm which should cove most of the body if a soldier would have 1.8m. -i just shown a part of the unit variations since for example the komatai has 3 tunics from which two are white, the KE has two from which both are white and for those only the pants are either of a gren shade or brown and finaly only the GS has 3 tunics from which two are of green and one is brown, so from what I see white predominates. -as for the shields they are 5 per each unit and I may have not shown the most complicated ones in decoration. I hope this answer your question and maybe another member will clear things up better than I did. Quote:
As for the other I find them big enough, 52-76cm also to be mentioned they're of celtic influention. |
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Drummer and Fifer
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Ah allright. I was comparing them with the EBI version of that unit. But I guess RTW has no shortsword category and thats why they are so large in EBI?
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Rifleman
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Love it!
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Light Infantryman
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wow , its very good.thanks
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Quartermaster Sergeant
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Now because of diversity size has become an important factor and we measure the shields, weapons and so on with sizes given by our historians. |
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Drummer and Fifer
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Ah, I see.
Well, accuracy can only be applauded! ps: those helms look amazing |
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