RTW is Dead! Long live M2TW!

~~Banzai!~~ · ~~Banzai!~~

It is time all modding on the obsolescent RTW engine should cease. The M2TW engine, with its advanced rendering, beautiful environments and animations, moddable AI and unit variations should become the new standard for TWC modding.

There has been understandable foot dragging in the past. Modders have tried to justify soldiering on with the RTW engine due to:

Poor unit cohesion in M2TW
Missing elements (no chariots, no wardogs, no phalanx formation).

These problems no longer exist.

Unit cohesion has been fixed in various mods (AOR Colonies, HEGEMON: Battle For Greece) through adjustments to the M2TW animations. Formations no longer spread out but press into each other.

Elements that were only present in M2TW have been implemented in M2TW. Bwian has developed working chariots, Eothese wardogs and Banzai! a workable phalanx formation. The only thing missing is slingers but these are almost ready for release by the Paeninsula Italica team.

I invite everyone to check out Banzai!'s HEGEMON: Battle For Greece, which is a working Classical-era mod in the M2TW engine here:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=213722

There is no longer any excuse to not mod for M2TW! We hold this truth to be self-evident!

~~St.Gabriel~~ · ~~St.Gabriel~~

wow what a way to patronize your mod

~~Banzai!~~ · ~~Banzai!~~

Quote:

Originally Posted by St.Gabriel

wow what a way to patronize your mod

Not at all. I really want modders to develop for MTW2.

Imagine Roma Surrectum in Medieval 2 Total War!

~~St.Gabriel~~ · ~~St.Gabriel~~

i know that would be awesome but its just the way you said it its all wrong many people will be offended. i play M2TW mods to waiting for PI but saying RTW is Dead its like stabbing the modders who are working very hard on their mods right now for RTW it will hurt them badly i know people especially modders should move to M2TW but we cannot blame them since RTW is a classic. i think when empire is out more modders will move to M2TW hopefully.

Lord Dakier · Lord Dakier

Rome was the best one thats why we have so many kickass mods. Go read a history book!

Please keep it clean - RM3

~~Banzai!~~ · ~~Banzai!~~

Look what unit variation with classical units is capable of!

Torque · Torque

Let's make this clear: currently there's no released ancient time-frame mod based on the M2TW engine.

Long live RTW!

Kátz · Kátz

I think a moderator will close this thread, or worse delete it. I don't like this at all. You post that RTW is dead in the RTW forum? You insulted us RTW players!

Okay, now why RTW excels over M2TW :
Better gameplay
No need of bigger ram et cetera et cetera regarding processor.
RTW is cheaper
Easier to mod
And about the rest look at the RTW mods and why they still really support it.

Torque · Torque

Add the view settlement feature and the fact, that the battle AI is still better in RTW. F.e. cavalry won't charge into a wall of spears, except the good ole' suicidal generals.

~~Banzai!~~ · ~~Banzai!~~

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerWizard

Let's make this clear: currently there's no released ancient time-frame mod based on the M2TW engine.

Long live RTW!

Yes there is:http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=213722

And I'm not intending to insult any RTW modders. I'm just saying it'd be nice if you modded for M2TW. I post in the RTW section because RTW modders look here.

Kátz · Kátz

Then I ask you. What does these statements mean?

Quote:

It is time all modding on the obsolescent RTW engine should cease.

Then you call us RTW modders mod something based on an obsolescent engine?

Quote:

There is no longer any excuse to not mod for M2TW!

There is, would my processor support M2? NO.

And the most potential controversy is the thread name itself.

Edit : Me and PW have already said why RTW excels.

Torque · Torque

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banzai!

Yes there is:http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=213722

This is only one and not even finished. A game with gunpowder cannons and characters like "Censor Marcus the Senate" with a picture of the pope.

Víkingr · Víkingr

M2TW is Dead! Long live ETW!

Hows that?

**Aradan** · **Aradan**

Thread closed.

Modders are free to choose what platform they mod and players are free to choose which platform they play on.
If you want to engage into a discussion about which platform is better, do so in this forum, and do so politely and thoughtfully.
Restrict advertising your mod in your signature or by a preview on the Front Page.

~~Banzai!~~	January 15, 2009, 12:14 AM / RTW is Dead! Long live M2TW!	#1
Indefinitely Banned Posts: 1,671	It is time all modding on the obsolescent RTW engine should cease. The M2TW engine, with its advanced rendering, beautiful environments and animations, moddable AI and unit variations should become the new standard for TWC modding. There has been understandable foot dragging in the past. Modders have tried to justify soldiering on with the RTW engine due to: Poor unit cohesion in M2TW Missing elements (no chariots, no wardogs, no phalanx formation). These problems no longer exist. Unit cohesion has been fixed in various mods (AOR Colonies, HEGEMON: Battle For Greece) through adjustments to the M2TW animations. Formations no longer spread out but press into each other. Elements that were only present in M2TW have been implemented in M2TW. Bwian has developed working chariots, Eothese wardogs and Banzai! a workable phalanx formation. The only thing missing is slingers but these are almost ready for release by the Paeninsula Italica team. I invite everyone to check out Banzai!'s HEGEMON: Battle For Greece, which is a working Classical-era mod in the M2TW engine here: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=213722 There is no longer any excuse to not mod for M2TW! We hold this truth to be self-evident!

~~St.Gabriel~~	January 15, 2009, 01:04 AM / Re: RTW is Dead! Long live M2TW!	#2
Indefinitely Banned Posts: 68	wow what a way to patronize your mod

~~St.Gabriel~~	January 15, 2009, 01:32 AM / Re: RTW is Dead! Long live M2TW!	#4
Indefinitely Banned Posts: 68	i know that would be awesome but its just the way you said it its all wrong many people will be offended. i play M2TW mods to waiting for PI but saying RTW is Dead its like stabbing the modders who are working very hard on their mods right now for RTW it will hurt them badly i know people especially modders should move to M2TW but we cannot blame them since RTW is a classic. i think when empire is out more modders will move to M2TW hopefully. Last edited by St.Gabriel; January 15, 2009 at 01:35 AM.

Lord Dakier	January 15, 2009, 02:07 AM / Re: RTW is Dead! Long live M2TW!	#5
Lieutenant Colonel Posts: 2,042	Rome was the best one thats why we have so many kickass mods. Go read a history book! Please keep it clean - RM3 Alageasia Link; http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182879 The Alagaesia:TW mod is looking for members they are; [2] - Skinners [2] - Modellers [1] - Scripters Map Is Now In Progress! Last edited by Roman_Man#3; January 17, 2009 at 07:58 PM.

~~Banzai!~~	January 15, 2009, 03:34 AM / Re: RTW is Dead! Long live M2TW!	#6
Indefinitely Banned Posts: 1,671	Look what unit variation with classical units is capable of!

Torque	January 15, 2009, 03:50 AM / Re: RTW is Dead! Long live M2TW!	#7
Sit Vis Nobiscum. Content Writer Posts: 10,119 Total Awards: 1	Let's make this clear: currently there's no released ancient time-frame mod based on the M2TW engine. Long live RTW!

Kátz	January 15, 2009, 03:55 AM / Re: RTW is Dead! Long live M2TW!	#8
Gundam Wannabe Posts: 1,254 Total Awards: 1	I think a moderator will close this thread, or worse delete it. I don't like this at all. You post that RTW is dead in the RTW forum? You insulted us RTW players! Okay, now why RTW excels over M2TW : Better gameplay No need of bigger ram et cetera et cetera regarding processor. RTW is cheaper Easier to mod And about the rest look at the RTW mods and why they still really support it. \|Liberation of Greece\|The Playwright\|Librarian\|Canaan : Total War\|Action Reporter\|The First Triumvirate\|Augustus!\|Tale of The Week\|After Action Reports & Community RPG forum\| Last edited by Kátz; January 15, 2009 at 03:58 AM.

Torque	January 15, 2009, 04:08 AM / Re: RTW is Dead! Long live M2TW!	#9
Sit Vis Nobiscum. Content Writer Posts: 10,119 Total Awards: 1	Add the view settlement feature and the fact, that the battle AI is still better in RTW. F.e. cavalry won't charge into a wall of spears, except the good ole' suicidal generals.

Víkingr	January 15, 2009, 05:27 AM / Re: RTW is Dead! Long live M2TW!	#13
Raiding the forums... Posts: 2,047	M2TW is Dead! Long live ETW! Hows that? ----------------------- Patria Libera - Mod Realms - The Silver Shield ----------------------

Aradan	January 15, 2009, 06:01 AM / Re: RTW is Dead! Long live M2TW!	#14
Flame Imperishable Technical Staff • Artifex Posts: 9,575 Total Awards: 5	Thread closed. Modders are free to choose what platform they mod and players are free to choose which platform they play on. If you want to engage into a discussion about which platform is better, do so in this forum, and do so politely and thoughtfully. Restrict advertising your mod in your signature or by a preview on the Front Page.

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