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    Quote Originally Posted by sumskilz View Post
    If you're not ethnically Jewish, why call yourself Jewish at all? Messianic Judaism is Christianity. It was called the Hebrew Christian Movement until the 1970s. “Messianic Jew” was just a term used to designate an ethnic Jew who had converted to Evangelical Christianity. I'm starting to get suspicious of your story. How did you get Israeli citizenship if you're not ethnically Jewish?
    Okay, well I didn't want to look like a hypocrite because I don't agree with race mixing, even though my mother is Jewish.

    However, it doesn't make sense that I would be mixed with Jewish-German because I have blonde hair, blue eyes and very fair skin.

    Anyways, my family name is Von Kessel, it's not a Jewish name, my mother's last name is Aysermann which is apparently Jewish.

    My father, who I take after, his parents were both Protestant, which makes him pure German, my mother is what is considered ethnically Jewish, and according to Jewish law, because my mother is Jewish that means I am too. But I don't believe that I am mixed, simply because I look pure Nordic.

    That being said, my citizenship is because my mother made Aliyah with our father, they spent 8 years there and acquired citizenship, and because they are citizens, so are me and my brothers and sisters.

    Now we have a home in the Negev, and are looking to move closer to the cities like Be'er Sheva. When I return from the USA, I will be joining the IDF.

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    You are ethnically Jewish. Your looks don't matter at all. I look like my mom, and my brother looks like my dad. You can't pick and choose ethnicity (in addition, the fact that your paternal grandparents were Protestant doesn't make them pure German)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cor De Ferrum View Post
    Okay, well I didn't want to look like a hypocrite because I don't agree with race mixing, even though my mother is Jewish.

    However, it doesn't make sense that I would be mixed with Jewish-German because I have blonde hair, blue eyes and very fair skin.

    Anyways, my family name is Von Kessel, it's not a Jewish name, my mother's last name is Aysermann which is apparently Jewish.

    My father, who I take after, his parents were both Protestant, which makes him pure German, my mother is what is considered ethnically Jewish, and according to Jewish law, because my mother is Jewish that means I am too. But I don't believe that I am mixed, simply because I look pure Nordic.

    That being said, my citizenship is because my mother made Aliyah with our father, they spent 8 years there and acquired citizenship, and because they are citizens, so are me and my brothers and sisters.

    Now we have a home in the Negev, and are looking to move closer to the cities like Be'er Sheva. When I return from the USA, I will be joining the IDF.
    Do your parents know about your "conservative" views? Just curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cor De Ferrum View Post
    Okay, well I didn't want to look like a hypocrite because I don't agree with race mixing, even though my mother is Jewish.

    However, it doesn't make sense that I would be mixed with Jewish-German because I have blonde hair, blue eyes and very fair skin.

    Anyways, my family name is Von Kessel, it's not a Jewish name, my mother's last name is Aysermann which is apparently Jewish.

    My father, who I take after, his parents were both Protestant, which makes him pure German, my mother is what is considered ethnically Jewish, and according to Jewish law, because my mother is Jewish that means I am too. But I don't believe that I am mixed, simply because I look pure Nordic.

    That being said, my citizenship is because my mother made Aliyah with our father, they spent 8 years there and acquired citizenship, and because they are citizens, so are me and my brothers and sisters.
    Okay, that all makes sense except what Pignans pointed out, and nobody is pure anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legio_Italica View Post
    Do your parents know about your "conservative" views? Just curious.
    My parents never spoke to me concerning politics. But like everyone else in Israel, they are very conservative.

    I absolutely detest anything that lies remotely close to the left, especially liberals.

    My father is a businessman, as far as politics go because he is a businessman his views are usually neutral.

    My mother, however is very outspoken about being a conservative.

    They both know everything I believe in, I talk about it to everyone and my father says not to be too vocal but my mother tells me she has the same views.
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    The only grounds for removing a person's liberty is to prevent direct physical harm to others. That's the foundation of my beliefs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cor De Ferrum View Post
    My parents never spoke to me concerning politics. But like everyone else in Israel, they are very conservative.

    I absolutely detest anything that lies remotely close to the left, especially liberals.

    My father is a businessman, as far as politics go because he is a businessman his views are usually neutral.

    My mother, however is very outspoken about being a conservative.

    They both know everything I believe in, I talk about it to everyone and my father says not to be too vocal but my mother tells me she has the same views.
    No one is taking you seriously, its been made obvious, why are you still posting?

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    Are liberals part of the left now? This is news to me.
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    This is fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Pignans View Post
    Are liberals part of the left now? This is news to me.
    You know nothing of American politics then, its probably worth educating yourself in. Just watching the West Wing is a good idea no matter what at any time any where. 18-27% of the electorate in the USA is liberal and they for the most part historically have supported the democrats.

    In the UK they are no doubt beyond civil liberties with regards to drugs, left wing. If this is news to you, heads in the sand tend not to get news!

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    Well the left has a focus on social equality. Whereas liberals tend to have a focus on individualism. Doing it by country just confuses matters.
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    The original liberal

    @Cor de Ferrum: Your mother, a Jew, is a white supremacist? Now that requires some serious doublethink.
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    Oh he is a paradox, which is a little to much to be coincidence at which point it is entirely reasonable to assume it is deliberate. Given the level of debate we get on here I was taken in for a heartbeat, amused for a minute and depressed for five minutes. If this is entertainment it is no "jam" which if you are after ironical entertainment thats a bit edgy kicks brass eye in the arse, but some people make odd comments on a forum..all gods creatures.
    Brass Eye > Jam


    The rest of this debate is too stupid to even address.

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    and it is brass eye - big train - jam

    and most people can't take jam. the whole attempts at suicide gets at people, I love it so much. I love the slowed down feakiness

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    Oooo wait, I've always wanted to ask: How is being "German" - which wasn't even a thing until 1870 - special? The Scandinavians are generally whiter, taller, blonder, and bluer-eyeder. Doesn't that mean they are the cool guys and "Germans" are just mixed-blood nobodies? Since I can't ask a Nazi, I'll just ask you.
    Of these facts there cannot be any shadow of doubt: for instance, that civil society was renovated in every part by Christian institutions; that in the strength of that renewal the human race was lifted up to better things-nay, that it was brought back from death to life, and to so excellent a life that nothing more perfect had been known before, or will come to be known in the ages that have yet to be. - Pope Leo XIII

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    I've not seen Big Train. I've just finished Nathan Barley though, pretty funny but no Jam/Brass Eye.

    Anyway let's let Cor De Ferrum get back to convincing us he's not a racist while also telling us how other races are inferior (which I'd rate about the same as Nathan Barley in funniness).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cor De Ferrum View Post
    My parents never spoke to me concerning politics. But like everyone else in Israel, they are very conservative.

    I absolutely detest anything that lies remotely close to the left, especially liberals.

    My father is a businessman, as far as politics go because he is a businessman his views are usually neutral.

    My mother, however is very outspoken about being a conservative.

    They both know everything I believe in, I talk about it to everyone and my father says not to be too vocal but my mother tells me she has the same views.
    So your Jewish mother is a white supremacist? I'm starting to think you are making this stuff up as you go along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slydessertfox View Post
    So your Jewish mother is a white supremacist? I'm starting to think you are making this stuff up as you go along.

    That was pretty obvious several pages ago... It's a shame too, this seemed like a reasonable thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cor De Ferrum View Post
    I am proud that we are the source of almost every single technological and scientific advance made during and after the cold war when our scientists were brought to the USSR and USA.
    You mean you are proud the USSR and USA used German expertise to improve their killing machines immediately after WWII, because they had focused their pre-war economy on peaceful existence and not turning their people into barbarians. By the 50s, Nazi scientists were no longer of use. Germany's scientific contributions since 1945 have been no more exceptional than anyone elses.
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    I am proud of the military tradition my people have, I am proud of this because in my opinion the military is the most important part of a nations pride.
    Germany doesn't have a military tradition. The Allies made sure of that. And it's a good thing too. Militarism is an extremely negative trait. Relucatant use of force only when necessary is the way to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cor De Ferrum View Post
    My parents never spoke to me concerning politics. But like everyone else in Israel, they are very conservative.
    I absolutely detest anything that lies remotely close to the left, especially liberals.

    My father is a businessman, as far as politics go because he is a businessman his views are usually neutral.

    My mother, however is very outspoken about being a conservative.

    They both know everything I believe in, I talk about it to everyone and my father says not to be too vocal but my mother tells me she has the same views.
    I see your problem. You call yourself a label and then support the views you associate with it. You should be deciding on views independently and then labelling them after, and not putting too much importance on the labels.
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