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    Maybe Canada should also become an authoritarian medieval theocratic monarchy with oil, then the US and UK might stand up for Canada instead of Saudi Arabia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathen Hammer View Post
    Your post doesn't even make sense anymore.
    Israel is one of America's main problems, which is why it would be best for US to abandon it, and end rather pointless confrontation with Russia and Iran. Of course, it is Israel's fault that it has bad relationship with Iran and pretty much every other country in the region. Same goes for Saudi Arabia.
    The real enemy of the Americans, of course, is the neoliberal oligarchy represented by so-called "free press" that publishes false claims presenting them as facts to incite hatred against Iran, Russia and a number of other countries, as well as military-industrial complex which seems to profit out of taxpayer's pocket, also being nothing but a glorified parasite. Although I doubt Trump could drain the swamp without literally starting a covert assassination program ag, but if he won't someone else will sooner then later.
    And of course Trudeau is much worse then Trump. Trump doesn't attempt to flood his country with third-worlders, isn't being buddies with Gulf ork kingdoms (at least not as our globalistoid PM), plus unlike Trump, Trudeau is a huge embarrassment for Canada internationally. I mean the most this guy is known for is his crazy drug habits and being violent to women. And which bad things did Trump do? Post mean tweets? Suuure.
    Alright Gulf ork kingdoms? This post is just trash and while its pretty garbled you seem to be ranting either racist or bigoted rubbish along with the hallucinations about Trudeau. You've not answered any reasonable posts, this is plain flaming and trolling..
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    Well, that was enough for "resistance" circus to convince themselves about all sorts of things about Trump, so might as well apply such principle on wider scale.
    So wait you are admitting your just typing what you want to hear - because you don't like Trudeo? My criticism of Trump is hardly based of one article I can't remember.

    But in all honesty, Justin's addiction to cocaine isn't really as big of an issue
    What you sort of just admitted its a second hand diagnosis that you can't reference (or won't) and yet reiterate as fact? Goebbels would be proud my friend... JT has always been a cocaine addict ...(but upon evidence to contrary) he has always been a child molester - we have always known it.

    as rampant corruption and his blatant disregard for the interests of population
    You were going to at list some examples right?

    Even the whole "progress" and "social justice" nonsense that he and his ilk spout is forgotten by them as soon as some rich ork from the Gulf waves a bill at him.
    Was that an explicit element in Canadian foreign policy that was elaborated by the PM at the expense of all else? What policy would you advocate for Canada and at what cost.

    How does it prove that Trump is a con man?
    It was a con. That is clear enough. I mean really If you insist: Taj Mahal (your corruption documented willful money laundering and organized crime links - and the flim flam man could still not keep it open), Trump steaks, Trump Vodka. what 4 bankruptcies overall? Now the king of debt buys cash - from where one need not wonder much. Certainly not his own self made con aside his silver spoon was not that big. Oh wait did I mention the Trump Foundation?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37369515

    I don't think you understand meaning of the term, since it clearly does not apply to Poland.
    It did a hundred years ago when my ancestors got the same treatment as Mexicans et al (now) and did the same jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Alright Gulf ork kingdoms? This post is just trash and while its pretty garbled you seem to be ranting either racist or bigoted rubbish along with the hallucinations about Trudeau. You've not answered any reasonable posts, this is plain flaming and trolling..
    Saudis didn't chose their background. Plus it is kind of similar with Gulf states being kinda like Mordor, while Allah is very similar to Sauron and that black stone thing in Mecca is like Eye of Sauron. But sure, nice excuse to ignore other arguments in my post.
    Quote Originally Posted by conon394 View Post
    So wait you are admitting your just typing what you want to hear - because you don't like Trudeo? My criticism of Trump is hardly based of one article I can't remember.
    Criticism of Trudeau is based on what he has done. Criticism of Trump is based on mix of conjecture and emotional statements. Like the whole media propaganda BS about 'kids in cages".
    You were going to at list some examples right?
    Turd's administration has been involved in so many scandals and from his history of sexual misconduct (from allegations of sexual assault from years ago to him hitting a woman recently), inability to talk in public, abysmal foreign policy, starting a trade war with US, accepting so-called "refugees" without proper vetting, and well, the topic of this thread, his cozy relationship with sociopathic billionaires like Soros and dictatorships like Saudi Arabia, which tells us everything that we need to know about pro-gay feminist, being buddies with people that behead gays and treat women like slaves.
    Was that an explicit element in Canadian foreign policy that was elaborated by the PM at the expense of all else? What policy would you advocate for Canada and at what cost.
    Not dealing with countries that sponsor terrorism and make North Korea look like liberal paradise?
    It was a con. That is clear enough. I mean really If you insist: Taj Mahal (your corruption documented willful money laundering and organized crime links - and the flim flam man could still not keep it open), Trump steaks, Trump Vodka. what 4 bankruptcies overall? Now the king of debt buys cash - from where one need not wonder much. Certainly not his own self made con aside his silver spoon was not that big. Oh wait did I mention the Trump Foundation? https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37369515
    You do realize that corporate bankrupcy is just a business tool, right?
    It did a hundred years ago when my ancestors got the same treatment as Mexicans et al (now) and did the same jobs.
    Again, do you even know what the term "third world" means?
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    Canadian imperialism? That's certainly a new one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludicus View Post
    That's crystal clear. Bannon plans a foundation ("The Movement") to fuel far right in Europe.

    The Man Who Wants to Unmake the West: Steve Bannon, Donald Trump
    And .. this for you, it's enough to arrest a man? So also I should be arrested? Also Matteo Salvini should be arrested? Also Marine Le Pen should be arrested? The whole AFD staff should be arrested? Are you kidding me?

    Are you saying that your political adversaries should be arrested because they don't share your naive Socialism? What's this weird and disgusting recipe? Is it António de Oliveira Salazar in Leftist sauce?

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    That's implying that destroying European Union and removing subversive rootless cosmopolitan groups from power would be a bad thing... it would not. It is important to understand that when neoliberal propaganda says "right-wing" they actually mean - sane and rational. Well, at least to a normal person. If Bannon would succeed in such alleged endeavor - he'd probably end up being greatest hero of European people, on the same level as Caesar, Charles Martel, Friedrich Barbarossa and Wilhelm von Roggendorf.
    In any case, this thread about relationship between Mordor, whoops, I meant Saudi Arabia and the neoliberal manchild that we have for Prime Minister...

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    European people, on the same level as Caesar, Charles Martel, Friedrich Barbarossa and Wilhelm von Roggendorf.
    'European People' There are in fact a large number of dead European Gauls Germans and British folk, and Roman Aristocrats, and soldiers of Pompey - who might differ on that Caesar Pick. But whatever. "Wilhelm von Roggendorf" A loser who could not save Buda? Seeing as I doubt Bannon could lead KP platoon I find it odd you picked primarily military leaders (and political - but Bannon kind hashed that did he not).
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    But if the cause be not good, the king himself hath a heavy reckoning to make, when all those legs and arms and heads, chopped off in battle, shall join together at the latter day and cry all 'We died at such a place; some swearing, some crying for surgeon, some upon their wives left poor behind them, some upon the debts they owe, some upon their children rawly left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by conon394 View Post
    'European People' There are in fact a large number of dead European Gauls Germans and British folk, and Roman Aristocrats, and soldiers of Pompey - who might differ on that Caesar Pick. But whatever. "Wilhelm von Roggendorf" A loser who could not save Buda? Seeing as I doubt Bannon could lead KP platoon I find it odd you picked primarily military leaders (and political - but Bannon kind hashed that did he not).
    I just pointed out Europeans who united their populations against a common threat, be it invasion by foreign hordes or the current subversion by rootless neoliberal elites. Of course I doubt that politico article is anything more then paranoid liberal mouth-foaming that we hear from mass media in things like Russia-Trump conspiracy theory, but if Bannon actually did, in fact, plan that - then good luck to him, since it is a good thing.

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    I just pointed out Europeans who united their populations against a common threat, be it invasion by foreign hordes
    Again Caesar sort of the foreign horde to Gauls, Germans, Britons. And that whole civil war and stab thing kind of says no uniting.

    I doubt that politico article is anything more then paranoid liberal mouth-foaming that we hear from mass media in things like Russia-Trump conspiracy theory
    You don't actually read books with footnotes, or articles with the same do you?
    IN PATROCINIVM SVB Dromikaites

    'One day when I fly with my hands - up down the sky, like a bird'

    But if the cause be not good, the king himself hath a heavy reckoning to make, when all those legs and arms and heads, chopped off in battle, shall join together at the latter day and cry all 'We died at such a place; some swearing, some crying for surgeon, some upon their wives left poor behind them, some upon the debts they owe, some upon their children rawly left.

    Hyperides of Athens: We know, replied he, that Antipater is good, but we (the Demos of Athens) have no need of a master at present, even a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by conon394 View Post
    Again Caesar sort of the foreign horde to Gauls, Germans, Britons. And that whole civil war and stab thing kind of says no uniting.
    Clearly the aftermath leading to centuries of Pax Romana speaks of the opposite.
    You don't actually read books with footnotes, or articles with the same do you?
    Is that an advice coming from your personal experience of sorts? I don't see what that has to do with making fun of neoliberal propaganda hit-piece fear-mongering about "far-right".

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    Criticism of Trudeau is based on what he has done. Criticism of Trump is based on mix of conjecture and emotional statements. Like the whole media propaganda BS about 'kids in cages".
    I see. So when CBC reports about kids in cages its "FAKE NEWS", but when they report on groping by Trudeau, it's a fact. Nice.

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    Turd's administration has been involved in so many scandals and from his history of sexual misconduct (from allegations of sexual assault from years ago to him hitting a woman recently)
    So is Trump.

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    inability to talk in public
    So is Trump

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    abysmal foreign policy
    Trump?

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    starting a trade war with US
    ????
    How the hell did Trudeau start the war if Trump is the one who wants to renegotiate NAFTA? Oh and so is Trump (with the rest of the world)

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    accepting so-called "refugees" without proper vetting
    Not true at all. The backgrounds checks are done in conjunction with the UNHCR, Canada and third party private sponsors (mostly churches in Canada).

    IRCC officials worked in consultation with international partners to identify potential Syrian GAR resettlement candidates and established triage criteria for them to consider in referring potential refugees to apply to come to Canada as part of OSR. The triage criteria supported partner organization decision-making to ensure that the objective to resettle 25,000 Syrian refugees would be met, and done in a manner that aided the most vulnerable populations while protecting the security of Canadians.

    The UNHCR referred GARs from its registration lists in Amman, Jordan and Beirut, Lebanon. The UNHCR had a list of several thousand potential GAR applicants that had been submitted prior to November 4, 2015. This inventory of potential resettlement candidates was used to identify potential applicants to resettle to Canada as part of OSR. After the official launch of OSR, the UNHCR streamlined their referral process in order to meet the increasing demands of the objective to settle 25,000 refugees to Canada as quickly as possible. UNHCR officials made use of SMS text messaging on mobile phones to reach more than 60,000 refugees for potential referral to come to Canada. The identification and referral of Syrian refugees located in Turkey was performed by Turkish government officials.
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    his cozy relationship with sociopathic billionaires like Soros and dictatorships like Saudi Arabia
    So is Trump with other oligarchs and Saudi

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    You do realize that corporate bankrupcy is just a business tool, right?
    There is an exhaustive list of articles and books documenting the opinions of Trump associates who all say he is a terrible business man with no real knowledge of anything, which is indeed reflected by the way he is running the Federal government.

    Also bankruptcy ruins people's lives, it annuls all of their pensions, plans and maybe even condemn them into poverty. Not to mention that it isn't a "business tool". It's like saying getting expelled four times is an "academic decision". It's not. It's a reflection and acknowledgement of FAILURE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harith View Post

    Also bankruptcy ruins people's lives, it annuls all of their pensions, plans and maybe even condemn them into poverty. Not to mention that it isn't a "business tool". It's like saying getting expelled four times is an "academic decision". It's not. It's a reflection and acknowledgement of FAILURE.
    I'm not endorsing Trump here, but according to German economical reviews (which i tend to listen to for economical reasons), the unemployment rate under the current US presidency right now is the lowest since 50 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swabian View Post
    I'm not endorsing Trump here, but according to German economical reviews (which i tend to listen to for economical reasons), the unemployment rate under the current US presidency right now is the lowest since 50 years.
    It is. That is factually true.

    It's also factually true that the current economic recovery did not happen suddenly under Trump, but was a result of continued trend started under the Obama administration since 2012 (I think). This, may I remind you, is back up from a disastrous low point in 2008-2009.

    The Trump administration's own record will be clear in the next few years. He could post even stronger growth, or weaker or could crash the economy.

    I will remind you, however, that wage growth has been stagnant. This trend was happening since the Obama administration after 2009 and continues until today under Trump.

    Unemployment dropped to 3.9 per cent. A broader measure of labour market strength that includes people who are in part-time work but want a full-time position was just 7.5 per cent, a full point below where it was a year earlier and its lowest level since 2001.

    Despite the robust figures, year-on-year wage growth flatlined at 2.7 per cent. The latest year-on-year reading for the consumer price index is 2.9 per cent, meaning that even as they report shortages of candidates, companies are increasing pay more slowly than the cost of living is rising.

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    It's also factually true that the current economic recovery did not happen suddenly under Trump, but was a result of continued trend started under the Obama administration since 2012 (I think). .
    June 2009.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infidel144 View Post
    June 2009.
    I thought the crisis was announced by US officials no sooner than 2008.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swabian View Post
    I thought the crisis was announced by US officials no sooner than 2008.
    The recovery started in June 2009, not 2012.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infidel144 View Post
    The recovery started in June 2009, not 2012.
    So it's been this meaningless in the US? A mere bad year, if at all? Pfff. Who is supposed to buy that?

    edit: except Chinese shareholders lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by swabian View Post
    So it's been this meaningless in the US? A mere bad year, if at all? Pfff. Who is supposed to buy that?
    Year and half (Dec 2007-June 2009). However the 'recovery' was very slow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infidel144 View Post
    Year and half (Dec 2007-June 2009). However the 'recovery' was very slow.
    And 2009, the unemployment rate was better than 50 years before? How come it is supposed to be now btw?

    edit: ah right. less poor people? Why?

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