Wardogs... Why?!?

[Knight117]

It isn't a proof. It is only a movie screen. Gladiator is not a historical source.
P.S. It is only one dog, not unit like legionaries. Did you seen legion of dogs?

I have never face-palmed so hard in my entire life.

It was a joke!

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/joke

Edit: Sorry for all the posts, the forum was a bit weird and I'm a stubborn fool.

[Nicolaos]

Wow I don't understand the arguement anymore. So many proofs have been brought up and some people just ignore the sources and still flame against wardogs. This is so retarded...
seriously this whole thread is fool of sources proving war dogs just take time and take a look or google it.

[Knight117]

The Britons had the 'Pugnaces Britannica' (feel free to to correct me) which were exported all over the Empire due to their loyalty and ferocity. I believe there was an account about Caesar's invasion of Britannia that basically says 'Holy Hell, these dogs are really bloody vicious'.

I'd repeat my suggestion again, but generally, if I can't give or acquire a war dog for my General/King/Chief, I will be mildly annoyed! MILDLY ANNOYED, I TELL YOU!...which will almost certainly be completely forgotten by the end of the day.

FEAR MY WOATH, CA!

[Razor]

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[Razor]

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[The Great Montrose]

Irish wolfhounds were also used to hunt wolves and protect livestock and kill people in Ireland.The Spanish used mastiffs and the Romans also had dogs.
Who helped protect the cattle and sheep that had to march with some army's.Rootweiler type dogs.It is in their History.
Look up breeds of dog and they will have what they were used for years ago.Many breeds of dog hunted some guarded many fought and some were used in the Arena.

Exactly. Irish wolfhounds were used as war dogs, think they'res a few sources of Romans being amazed at the size and how vicious they were. picts/Caledonians also used Scottish deerhounds mostly as hunting companions but they can fight aswell. Always wanted to have a Scottish deerhound

[Lord Dakier]

While I'm traversing the Gaul and Germanic lands as Rome I'll sure as hell be bring at least one unit of war dogs for their abilities to find ambushing armies. This will also be a good unit for online play too!

[Razor]

Not very enthusiastic about the war dogs. But until we know more about how the Roman military and the Germanic military works we can't really judge.
Remember though that one unit of war dogs in your army = one unit slot spent on something that could have been filled with a more regular and serious unit. If I had to choose between spending a unit slot on a Roman cohort or on a unit of war dogs then the choice is very obvious...

But if the war dogs are merely a feature/attribute of generals which they can use to flush out hidden enemy units - without occupying a unit slot - then I'm all for it!

[Sharpe]

Irish wolfhounds were also used to hunt wolves and protect livestock and kill people in Ireland.The Spanish used mastiffs and the Romans also had dogs.
Who helped protect the cattle and sheep that had to march with some army's.Rootweiler type dogs.It is in their History.
Look up breeds of dog and they will have what they were used for years ago.Many breeds of dog hunted some guarded many fought and some were used in the Arena.

My parents actually have an Irish Wolfhound and though they are bred to be placid and gentle nowdays they are still and intimidating sight. Our one is nearly 190 pounds.

[Knight117]

The forum returneth! I haveth something to doeth inbetweeneth porneth videoseth. (Did I add enough 'eth?'

Anyway - I look forward to it all, really, but I'm a dog owner aswell, so I agree with a fair few people in that, even if the evidence was flawed (which it kinda isn't, in so far as Classical Sources can be), I'd still want CA to jump the gun and add wardogs on some level. Even as an ancillary to characters. 'You are King of the Iceni. You may buy a pack of wardogs. Tick/Cross?'

[Dr.Own]

Why?
Because your autism shouldn't ruin the fun for other people.

[John ''True Grit'' Wayne]

Okay dont use wardogs and end up in some trap in the woods of Germany or Britain because you did not want to recruit a unit.I do not mind as I will be setting up the traps for the lulz
I always found them usefull as they scatter the AI skirmishers.And they chase down routing units and that is important as when you get your enemy running it is best to really mess his army up in the campaign.
Mercy is for the weak and nice guys finish last in the world of Total war.

[UghUghUgh]

Are there other animals we can use to our advantage, like hedgehogs as a barbarian alternative movable spike wall to stop roman wardogs? What about moles making their way into the defending army's camp to win the day? Maybe the capturable deploment zone will also be featured in sea battles and flipper comes to our help. And if it is a combined land sea battle lessie will be riding on flippers back.

Sorry, but I can't take these rage threads seriously any longer. Anibal, are you sure you aren't master Yoda? I history knowledge to an very much extent I have, but understanding grammaticus to a degree lesser many.

[TR00PER7]

you need the wardogs to run down those screeching women!

Just be careful of the Camelphracts!

[MemnonOfRhodes]

you need the wardogs to run down those screeching women!

Just be careful of the Camelphracts!

You forgot:

[Balbus]

Might as well create Arquimedes' beam shooting boat for the Greek faction.

Now that would be great.

[Anna_Gein]

Okay dont use wardogs and end up in some trap in the woods of Germany or Britain because you did not want to recruit a unit
.

Where does the idea that war dog unit will help the player to avoid ambush come from ?

If the internet is so full of sources, then go ahead and actually read them. You will find proof of dogs being used in battle there.

So would you please keep your uneducated opinion to yourself and stop trying to convince CA to make their game inaccurate and lame?

Not convincing.

It is a fact battles where dogs were used on an important scale were extremely rare. I can't think of anything else than beside the battle you mentioned between the Magnesians and the Ephesians. And even then it is far from detailed. Do we even know how many cavaliers participated at this battle ?

War dog have no place in the kind of fighting TW have been represented so for. So please stop to call accurate something that is not.

[MemnonOfRhodes]

Where does the idea that war dog unit will help the player to avoid ambush come from ?

Dog's superior senses, I think..

[Sharpe]

Basically here is the answer - CA said they would be bringing in rare/unusual units for diversity purposes ETC. There is a chance that wardogs were used and thus, justify their inclusion.

[Prof]

Basically here is the answer - CA said they would be bringing in rare/unusual units for diversity purposes ETC. There is a chance that wardogs were used and thus, justify their inclusion.

This probably also includes units like Gladiators, incendiary pigs and Arcani.