Sure, this crap is omnipresent in universities / the media. But that's not the foremost reason for the fragmentation of society.
FOr 100s of years, priests have lectured on the vanities of life. The hunt for luxury, lust, honour etc were seen as sinful temptations. People were taught to turn the other cheek etc. That didn't turn Europeans into pacifistic treehuggers. A few became monks/nuns.
A noble would go to church in the morning, but that wouldn't stop him from fighting, drinking, whoring etc.
People of the 68 generation were hardcore marxists in university. Guess what: as soon as they received their first paycheck, they became the same burgeois like everyone else: big house, big car, marriage.
Being marxist/SJW is a thing in university. Once that's over, most people abandon that and live a normal life. If they don't, then there's sth else going on. The erosion of the family (and society as a whole: think of associations etc) has other reasons.
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At a certain point during the Byzantine Empire, birthrates were crumbling because everyone was becoming either a nun or a monk. Sort of unique, but it happened.
People still become more conserative as soon as they see taxation eroding their pay check, that's true. Even Millennials who were overwhelmingly pro Obama and Hillary are dropping their support for Democrats as they are now steadily into the job market.
https://in.reuters.com/article/usa-e...-idINKBN1I10YR
Though I wouldn't be surprised if it's also the SJW extremism driving them away. Nonetheless, even if it's a university thing or media thing, it's still incredibly bad. We already allowed a fringe to essentially take over the highest level of education and the media discourse of mainstream media; that alone makes college quite the scam.
You have UMich wasting 85$ million over ''diversity and inclusion'' policies.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...85m-diversity/
How's this funded? By the student debt. So millennials are now indebted well into their 30s because of a bunch of ideological extremists that run college campuses? That's an economic nonsense to begin with and educational too. Instead of providing new generations with tools to survive, allegedly the goal of university education, they make them extremist activists that know nothing and will struggle in life to repay their debt.
It's a massive disservice to society. Then of course they can't repay their debts, their jobs suck, they get depressed and suicidal. All thanks to ''education''.
I agree, the push into universities is part of the problem. But the crap with gender studies etc is again a massive oversimplification.
People flog university because the office jobs for people with medium education are disappearing fast. The job market is becoming divided between academic jobs and working class jobs/ crappy jobs in the service indutry.
NOt everybody is fit to be a academic in a "useful" field, and supply for these is not unlimited either way.
(Job) uncertainty, forced flexibility/mobility and/or financial troubles are not limited to people with "bs degrees" you know. And the massive increase of study costs in certain countries is questionable either way.
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They give birth astride of a grave, the light gleams an instant, then it's night once more.
America’s rising suicide rate
https://www.economist.com/democracy-...n/tw/te/bl/ed/
''Poor white men are particularly at risk''.
The effect of ''positive'' discrimination. The liberal genocidal agenda is in full swing.
He never said anything of the sort, I debunked this thoroughly in another thread.
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I don't know why people are so adamant about lying about Bourdain and whatever his beliefs are, but the idea that he wanted some kind of an ethnic cleansing of White people is absurd. Oh wait, I know why, it's because he's a staunch liberal who used his culinary expertise as a medium for his ideology. Fairly harmless considering he also made a show that was critically acclaimed, but hey. Those darn liberals! Trying to take away America from the White race!The "ban white people" thing was actually Bourdain filming in Houston, and in attempt to emphasize that it's a melting pot of different cultures and people despite being in possible the "Whites" and most "American" region of the states, he deliberately chose not to include White people in the episode. There should be no controversy as the intention is obvious. That there are White people in Houston is obvious, hence why excluding them to emphasize other people and cultures is a worthy goal of pointing out the level of multiculturalism in America's "Whitest" city.
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But you quoted. So either you quoted yourself or someone else. You are indicating your quoted yourself interpreting the position of someone else. Do you not see a problem with that?
Yes, the liberal genocide plan is to convince white men (many of which are liberal) to kill themselves. Genius plan.
Do you feel no shame for politicizing suicide in such an absurd way?
They give birth astride of a grave, the light gleams an instant, then it's night once more.
Why do you think it's white men who are the worst hit then?
It's not like there isn't an entire media narrative against toxic masculinity and white privilege. Oh no. I'm the bad one. Not your side which targets the most suicidal group with racial and gender discrimination. I should be the one to be ashamed.
Not on this planet.
I already gave out an idea, but it is admittedly weak. The motivation for suicide can be very complex and mysterious. No one knows for sure. The "media narrative" isn't very convincing; do you have any other demonstrations of media narrative driving suicide trends upwards over time?
I get it, you hate "the media". Just because you hate it doesn't mean people are killing themselves over it. Gotta let go of that angst, man, it is apparently messing with your perception of...everything.
They give birth astride of a grave, the light gleams an instant, then it's night once more.
http://money.cnn.com/2018/06/09/medi...ide/index.htmlKate Spade and Anthony Bourdain: How the press can cover suicide without creating a 'contagion'
by Tom Kludt @tomkludt June 9, 2018: 10:06 AM ET
Two icons took their own lives this week, forcing the news media to grapple with one of the most painful and challenging subjects.
After news broke Friday that the roving journalist Anthony Bourdain had died of an apparent suicide, the Poynter Institute re-published a story detailing how the press often exacerbates matters in the ensuing coverage.
The story, written by Poynter VicePresidentKelly McBride, was originally published in 2014. As if to underscore the recurring horror of suicide, McBride also shared the story on Tuesday, when the world learned that fashion designer Kate Spade had also taken her life.
News coverage of Spade's death, McBride said on Twitter, "is exactly the kind of news story that can lead to a contagion if the details are reported irresponsibly."
But days later, when the press had to confront yet another grim story in the death of Bourdain, McBride said she saw an improvement.
"I think most of the people who are covering Anthony Bourdain aren't making as many mistakes because they covered something similar earlier this week," she told CNN in a phone interview Friday.
story continued
Of course CNN is biased since Bourdain was a valued member of the CNN team. Still, I thought this would be of interest as to their take on the coverage of this and other suicides. As noted in the article, there was a spike in the coverage of suicide after Robin Williams died as well. But despite the spike in coverage, nothing much came of it. I think often, the media finds things of importance to report on and to give opinions on, and then they simply move on toward the next shiny object to then report on and give opinions on. It is not their job to make any sort of difference, so I can understand their moving on. The audience is fickle. If they did not move on, the audience would move on to other media.
So, if this is going political -- it will be politicians and the upcoming election cycle more than the media. Of at least that is my thinking at the moment.
I thought that this quip form the heart of the article was perhaps a good point to consider:
For those interested: Poynter - Official Site - their 'in case you missed it' is their accumulation of other media links that may interest their readers. Worth a look even if you do not agree politically.Details of Spade's death were quickly and widely reported. Reporting on those facts can become problematic in the online media environment, where news spreads like wildfire and is often accepted as truth before it is even verified. But adhering to that guideline may run counter to the journalistic impulse to provide readers with as much information as possible. McBride said she saw some examples in the coverage of Spade's death "that did not adhere to the best practices, specifically because they mentioned the means of death and provided specific details in headlines."
https://www.cjr.org/analysis/kate-sp...-diversity.phpThe 2018 midterms are nearly upon us, and the 2020 election will be here sooner than we think. If journalism and civil society would be aided by more newsroom diversity, we should figure that out now. And although I didn’t include class in my query because I didn’t come up with a clear way of framing questions of class background, it would be valuable for us to understand whether working-class whites as well as Latinx and non-white reporters were on political teams, and in top newsrooms. Working class white journalists used to be plentiful, but now they are hard to find in elite newsrooms.
That is all for now. Enough of a wall of text for anyone interested in how and why these things become political footballs.
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Yes, many people believe that for the World to be Peaceful, there is a certain Ethnic Demography that must be erased, via means of a solution that does not sound shocking like the Final Solution, but that does the same job in cleaning the Gene Pool.
"For the World to be Peaceful, the White Race must disappear"
This is highly ironic, but even in this form there is an evident belief in Eugenics-Program from the certain people hiding in the Left Wing, which explains all the accusations of Eugenics at the Right comes from Projecting what they themselves are trying to do.
Now contrast "For the World to be Peaceful, the White Race must disappear" with "For Germany to be Peaceful, the Jewish people must disappear" and it would have been a surprise if not for all those Philosophers warning that Opposites Atract each other since centuries BC.
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It will be seen that, as used, the word ‘Fascism’ is almost entirely meaningless. In conversation, of course, it is used even more wildly than in print. I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox-hunting, bull-fighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley's broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I do not know what else.
-George Orwell
A healthy reaction. A school shooting isn't a banal fact of life.
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Factors that increase the risk for suicide are biopsychosocial/environmental/sociocultural. Above all, mental health conditions - depression.
Montana ranks number one in suicide rates.And is also second in the US for alcohol-related deaths.
Social isolation, less access to services, alcohol consumption, altitude, depression.
By 2030 depression will be the number one health issue in the world.
DEPRESSION: A Global Crisis - World Health Organization
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Montana, an exhaustive study.
2016 Montana Suicide Mortality Review Report - Suicide Prevention
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Obviously.
Thinking about it...
Man from coma commits suicide after learning Trump is President - SDE
He was so depressed, he immediately stopped eating," his mother told reporters.
Blake also wrote a letter to his friends and family saying that he "could not bear the thought of living under a Trump presidency" before overdosing on antidepressants.
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Il y a quelque chose de pire que d'avoir une âme perverse. C’est d'avoir une âme habituée
Charles Péguy
Every human society must justify its inequalities: reasons must be found because, without them, the whole political and social edifice is in danger of collapsing”.
Thomas Piketty
Suicide is more prevalent because of the overwhelming negativity and pessimism in the future and for the individual person or family. Not that mysterious or complex.
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well yeah, the promise that the next generation will have it better than the next has been debunked, as basicially all Western countries face the pressure of Globalization and Neoliberalism.
https://www.economist.com/books-and-...mental-illness
Previous generations had less, but it's a difference if you are used to a standard of living and now can only look downward. Plus previous generations had still had a sense of solidarity and communality, which helped compensate to a certain degree. Today we are so individualized that we're all on our own.
and last but not least, as an agnostic with contempt for organized religion I can confirm that having no faith can be a depressing thing.
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