Dwarf Fortress, learn how to fear capital 'E's like you could never imagine

[Magic Man]

Im about to give the new version a bash.


Ive mastered most of the basics (Apart from military, that still confuses me a bit. Everyone seems to be in one man squads) in the tutorial version so hopefully i will do okay.

[eggthief]

Hate to bring bad news, but in the latest versions organizing your military is even more complicated.

[Lordinquisitor]

On the bright side; You can now give kill orders.

[eggthief]

Which won't be cancelled even when completed.

[Magic Man]

This new version seems way slower, world generation took like half an hour.

[Ascarona]

Cool thanks.

atm im eating lots of kittens.


Is there a tutorial that goes with the new version of DF? Along with the better graphics thing? (so everything isnt letters)

This guy has made 2 giant tutorials for an older version and is now busy making one for the newest. It has really helped me alot starting off.
CaptnDuck

This new version seems way slower, world generation took like half an hour.

No problems here...


Does anyone know what the Dwarf Therapy is and where I can get it?

[Shaio]

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=39229.0 for dwarf therapist, sady it was discontinued a while back, i have offsets to make it work in new ver so no problem right at the moment, but we do lose this great tool very soon so make use of it now.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

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offsets in spoiler must be put in file named v0.31.12_graphics.ini in dwarf therapist/etc/memory_layouts/windows.

20-30 idle dwarfs are normal in a fort of about 100, i generally have atleast 40 dwarfs whos sole occupations in life are hauling and masonry + carpentry, its a sign you need to start building some big constructions.

Also magma is the only sane way to smelt stuff, and in new vers its always there, you just need to dig strait down.

[Ascarona]

Anyone wants the offsets just throw me a pm, there too big to post in the thread given this forum has no spoiler tags I'm aware of.

Lolwut? Press the or button in advanced post and you have yourself a special spoiler window. But thanks for the link.

[Shaio]

Yep i noticed that a few moments after i made my post, i almost never use the advanced form, and the button didn't exactly scream spolier to me for some reason. *shrugs* fixed now so grab offsets from spoiler in my previous post if you need them.

also tip of the day, to save wasteful time butchering, you can make a 8-9z level drop, more is better, make a pit at the top, your butchery/tanner room at bottom, drop animals down pit for convenient killing, and reducing to bits.

[eggthief]

Also magma is the only sane way to smelt stuff, and in new vers its always there, you just need to dig strait down.

Well I get stuck on damp walls on maps with an aquifer after ~3 floors down, don't think magma is possible on those maps.

[Shaio]

Well I get stuck on damp walls on maps with an aquifer after ~3 floors down, don't think magma is possible on those maps.

There's lots of ways to get through aquifers, there all annoying or hard work thou, personally i avoid them, although my favorite is having a half aquifer map, just for the convenience it gives when drowning traders, or goblins or whatever.

If you cant find magma, id suggest either walling off a portion of above ground so you've got atleast some safe trees to gather, or using a screw pump to flood a massive room with water and leave it muddy, so underground trees grow, a free infinite and easily grow-able source of wood, you could possibly do no effort farming via herbalism like this.

Tip to do with ambushes.
If you seal yourself up atall(which you should), make sure there some place to safely drop pets outside, they'll wander round at random and cause ambushes to trigger, when your sure all are triggerd, you can almost safely go out with your military and smite the bastards.

Unless your like me and have swarms of zombie somethings running round outside all year long, then well there this kitten related sport i like to play.

[Ascarona]

There's lots of ways to get through aquifers, there all annoying or hard work thou, personally i avoid them, although my favorite is having a half aquifer map, just for the convenience it gives when drowning traders, or goblins or whatever.

If you cant find magma, id suggest either walling off a portion of above ground so you've got atleast some safe trees to gather, or using a screw pump to flood a massive room with water and leave it muddy, so underground trees grow, a free infinite and easily grow-able source of wood, you could possibly do no effort farming via herbalism like this.

You can grow trees and plants underground? I thought you could only grow dwarven crops down there.

[Shaio]

You can grow trees and plants underground? I thought you could only grow dwarven crops down there.

I dunno if it requires you to have found a cavern already, it might, but random plants/trees will grow on any random muddy underground tiles, so if you flood a room stuff will grow, and there all underground plants so when you harvest them you also get seed u can use in your dwarven farms.

stuff won't grow if there's dwarfs trampling the plants into the dirt every second or two.

[Ascarona]

Oh so if I were to mine out a room, flood it and just wait the trees and plants will just start growing at random locations in the muddied room?

[Shaio]

pretty much.

[Magic Man]

I sent the leader of my fortress out hunting and shes been ripping apart elk and musk ox with her bare hands before hauling their carcasses back to the fort.

Was pretty funny when she killed one of the Elk and the Elks mate (i assume) wandered over.


''Elk Lower Body
Grass
Smear of Blood
Rotten Elk Chunks''


ELK HAS BECOME ENRAAAGED.

Hahaha.

[Tankfriend]

That's a good example for why you should never underestimate wrestling and unarmed combat in DF. If you go and try out adventure mode, the only thing possibly even more overpowered is throwing...

Oh so if I were to mine out a room, flood it and just wait the trees and plants will just start growing at random locations in the muddied room?

Do make sure that the water dries away by itself, just like you do with your farm irrigation system, though. With water higher than 1/7 depth, things generally don't grow, as far as I know.

[Magic Man]

Apparently if the water is higher than 1/7th then it wont evaporate by itself underground.

Here's a visual of the standard farming process.



You'll want a river or a brook that occupies two z-levels (really one, but it shows up on two): the surface, and a level underground--they all do.
Dig out your farm on the underground level of the river, only a few tiles away from it before digging out a small tunnel toward it (without breaking through and having it flood all over).
Seal your farm room with a door or two from the rest of the fortress to prevent the water that will enter it from escaping out into the tunnel beyond.
Make three mechanisms.
Use one to build a lever outside the farm room.
Make a floodgate.
Build the floodgate at the end of the tunnel leading to the river, next to the wall tile that separates the tunnel from the water on the other side.
Use the other two mechanisms to connect this floodgate to the lever.
Pull the lever, opening the floodgate, exposing the wall tile.
Have your miner break through it to breach the river. He or she will high-tail it out of there and the room will proceed to flood. I recommend waiting until the water inundates approximately half of the room before pulling the lever again to seal the leak with the floodgate (though perhaps a little earlier since dwarves seldom get around to pulling a lever quickly enough).
The water will eventually evaporate and you'll have nice, farm-able mud! :3

Courtesies of BronzeBeard at the Bay12 forums.

[eggthief]

In my own experience it seems more like 3/7 being the minimum for not evaporating.

[Tankfriend]

In my own experience it seems more like 3/7 being the minimum for not evaporating.

Well, the wiki states that evaporation is bound to a 1/7 depth (for both water and magma...).
http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/Water
Maybe the individual map temperature has a say in this as well.

Apparently if the water is higher than 1/7th then it wont evaporate by itself underground.
Courtesies of BronzeBeard at the Bay12 forums.

That's the most basic idea of an irrigation system, yes. But I've personally gone on with using a more complicated system for added security, flexibility and precision.
Basically, what you do with that method is this:
(note: I'll try and supply some screenshots soon - my last fortress got destroyed by an invasion... )

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Z-Level -1
- dig your "source room" as usual
- build a lever-connected wall grate into the tile closest to the river; that way, you can open it to dig into the river and then close it again to keep anything from getting into your water system from the outside
- build a lever-connected floodgate as usual
- dig a channel in the center of the "source room"
- build a lever-connected hatch cover over the channel
- dig as many additional access tunnels as you want and seal them with floodgates

Z-Level -2
- dig your first farming room, twice the size of the "source room"
- dig channels into the corners of one side of your farming room
- if you want, place floor grates over the channels

Z-Level -3
- the same as level -2, but the channels are dug in the opposite corners of the room (thus, the water has to pass and irrigate the entire room)

Z-Level -4
- the same as level -2, but you don't need any channels here

The good thing about this is that:
1. You don't have to worry about when to seal your "source room" as there is no imminent danger of completely flooding your farm rooms.

2. You don't have to worry about how much water you need - as you have six times the additional space below the "source room", there are exactly 7 spaces available for every 7/7 quantity of water in your source room ("source room" size + 6 times the size of it in farm rooms); i.e. wait for your room to be full, close the floodgate and open the floor hatch.

3. You can design the overall system as you like and as it fits into your surroundings: You could, for example, dig out a single huge farm room on Z -2

4. You can expand the system at will. Increase the size of the "source room" and you have more water for additional/larger farm rooms. Due to the additional access tunnels, you can also link up several other things that need water, like a water supply system or more "source"/farm rooms somewhere else around your fortress.

The bad things about it:

1. It can take a lot of time to complete, so you might need some extra foodstuffs. Generally, this shouldn't be a problem if you can go for fishing or hunting, though.

2. You need some careful planning work to calculate the necessary space et al.

3. Not remembering what lever does what can end up in a lot of fun. To that end, try to place the levers in such a way that they correspond with the placing of the objects that they activate.