Well, there it is, Thank you LTR. This mod has turned be back on MTWII again. I've tired DLV and LTC and neither of those compare to The Long Road. This is how Medieval Total War II should have been. It was so apparent when as England I was actually fighting Saxon rebels, and not normal English ones. The mod is perfect, I love it, thank you, thank you ... and now I'll retreat into my cave and play for six hours straight.