BROKEN CRESCENT: The Screenshots Thread

**Ahiga** · June 19, 2007, 12:31 PM

I like the changes I put in for the dismounted Latin knights. AD's done a phenomenal job on the unit coding - there are many instances where in custom battles I can actually end up being close to losing, but I decided to make the Dis. Latins more 'irregular', given the fact that knights did not train to fight on foot the way that Muslim and East Christian cavalry did.

The effect seems rather substantial - with a slightly messy formation, far more spread out than spearmen and other foot infantry, and with lower mass, their high attack and armor is offset by their inability to work in the typical way of heavy infantry (Which back in Vanilla, made them behave like anachronistic Legionaries). I think this will let them be utilized in a unique manner, not simply being awesome heavy infantry that can do everything, but rather units you use for limited, but important circumstances (Supporting foot spearmen, or fighting in a siege).

The lack of the Latin Knights on foot's kill rate is just due to me not using them. But this is more what I would hope a KoJ victory reads out like - crossbowmen and knights doing the chief fighting, then spearmen, and then men-at-arms and knights on foot. Notice how many the Latin Knights on horseback killed - 219(!). The templars didn't do so well just because I messed up in using them.

This was against the rebel stack of Antioch, which we had sieged until they sallied forth, a full stack of high experience units, but because of the AI (Much better than normal, but still poor when they sally out), I got more kills.

**~~Miraj~~** · June 19, 2007, 01:01 PM

Awsome screens. Just plain awsome.

**The Mongol** · June 19, 2007, 02:21 PM

Damn, nice screenshots Ahiga.

It makes me wish CA gave us their "Very Huge" unit scale setting.. some of the latest Kingdoms screenshots show 300 men units.

Those bastard testers, why do they tease me so.

**IrAr** · June 19, 2007, 06:28 PM

Love the screens, Ahiga!

**Tadzreuli** · June 20, 2007, 02:08 AM

great ! what kind of armyes are on the battle field?

**Ahiga** · June 20, 2007, 02:30 AM

Originally Posted by Tadzreuli

great ! what kind of armyes are on the battle field?

For such a diverse, varied, exotic and innovative mod as broken Crescent?

Crusaders vs crusader rebels.

It's latin Knights on the charge, against on foot Hybrid crossbowmen, and sergeant spearmen. Something I really like is how every knight looks different. AD's work has really come to shine in the engine - With (I think the knights have like...13 or more helmet options) many helmet options, and many shield options along with those 5 body meshes/textures, they look truly like a diverse force. :original: Truly like knights.

**Recon** · June 20, 2007, 08:26 AM

Yes awesome work!

The only thing that might need some work is the vanilla horses I think, sure they have the shape of a horse, but they don't quite look like one.

**AlphaDelta** · June 20, 2007, 08:58 AM

The horses CA produced for M2TW are superb. Take a look at the horses in RTW and you can clearly see a huge improvement.

**IrAr** · June 20, 2007, 09:26 AM

Indeed, AD.

**Recon** · June 20, 2007, 11:13 AM

Surperb you say, common the horses look like they are on steroids.

The horse model used for many skirmishing units is ok, but that model doesn't look like a horse at all only by shape.

**Ahiga** · June 20, 2007, 12:55 PM

My problem isn't really with the model so much the horse's texture. There seems to be only a white and a brown, but I might not be picking up on it. Would be nice to have a black, as well as mixed color ones, but it's no rush at all.

**The Mongol** · June 20, 2007, 01:20 PM

Yeah, whats a matter? CA doesn't like BLACK horses?

zomg racism!!!1

**B. Ward** · June 20, 2007, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by Ahiga

My problem isn't really with the model so much the horse's texture. There seems to be only a white and a brown, but I might not be picking up on it. Would be nice to have a black, as well as mixed color ones, but it's no rush at all.

i felt the same way when the dds converter first came out. if you guys want black horses let me know and i'll send it to ya'll

**AlphaDelta** · June 20, 2007, 06:57 PM

There are different shades of browns, and also several different piebald ponies. I might go back through and add a black horse to some units, at a later date.

**The Mongol** · June 20, 2007, 06:58 PM

Horses from the black community thank you everywhere AD.

**AlphaDelta** · June 22, 2007, 07:04 AM

Thaqlah infantry waiting to recieve the Knights of Jerusalem.

**teh.frickin.pope** · June 22, 2007, 07:52 AM

Wait, who are the Thaqlah? Is that the new name for the mamluk tabardiyyah?

Edit: Nevermind, I just looked at the first page of the Ayyubids.

P.S. A medium heavy axe unit as well as a heavy heavy axe unit; niiiiice.

**The Mongol** · June 22, 2007, 10:05 AM

Wow, they Ayyubids are going to be chopping up some Crusaders.

**jermagon** · June 22, 2007, 12:46 PM

very nice pic Alpha Iam sure these Thaqlah will smash the crusader invader.
btw,thaqlah means heavy,it's derived from the arabic word ''Thaqil'' which also means heavy