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    Default Helios 9; More Helioi than Crowned Henrys!


    Thema Devia by enoch
    Sports by Ó Cathasaigh [once called Corporal Hicks]
    Vestigia Vetustatis by Scorch
    Basement by Shaun
    Parliamentum by rome ac
    Editorials by Oldgamer; Farnan; Silver Guard; Grimsta; Lord Rahl; the Black Prince; Shaun

    Welcome to a new, and sadly delayed, ninth edition of the Helios; I hope you are all sitting comfortably, its rather long, as we have grown used to I hope!

    First, and this is a new hir[el]ing, I want to introduce all and sundry to enoch, a self-confessed n00b but one who kindly agreed to write on the Thema Devia for me; a rather different style to that we are used to from Seneca, but this is no bad thing, neccessarily.
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    The Themia Devia – I have to say some of these new posters leave much to be desired

    But we will get to that….


    The Mudpit has been focused on the hot button issues of gun control, with a little abortion thrown in for good measure
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=93903
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=95666

    And, as always, the Grand Conquest of Imperator George W. and the general state of America
    whether you’re interested in Uncle Sam’s S.O.S. to the world
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=95558
    the fractured fallacious nature of the national psyche or
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=95460
    or how long, long, long until we kiss asphalt
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=93745
    you want it, Devia’s got it.

    Be sure to also catch the informative discussion about the land of Chairman Putin
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=81845 or
    if you prefer an Estonian perspective - http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=88750

    If you want to hear the words of Legends, check out the future of Britain’s Red-headed stepchild – http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=95724

    And DON'T miss the true(?) story of Mother Theresa - it'll change ya
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=96067


    The Ethos, Mores, et Monastica has been an oddly touchy area recently with a religious fraternity fighting a gloomy atheist collective for supremacy – strange days, eh?
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=94847

    Some great discussions on the ins and outs of Buddhism, Islam and, of course……….. Orthodox Christianity? http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=86999

    The topic you never saw coming…. think the afore-mentioned Prince Harry’s infamous costume snafu - http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72732

    And everything from lust, literalism, philosophy, domestic violence to the meaning of life as well as the Grand Patriach Wilpuri’s musings on May Day and the political essence of Vodka
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=95955



    And now the *************N00B ALERT*************

    Because of my own inherent, dirty, dirty n00bness, I have refrained from naming names up till now, but n00bs are a constant and ever growing threat to the sanctity of the TWC and sometimes it is necessary to focus on a particularly insidious n00b - this week we were forced to contend with that conspiracy touting, Jesus redefining, gutter born demagogue in waiting
    aka enoch

    Enoch's first real appearance in the TWC is in support of Professor420's soon to be legendary tirade against the Man (the Curia, not staff, I love staff, staff is perfect, hail staff, falstaff...hehehe - there was a prince named Harry in this thread)

    Later in the thread, the seditious n00b's mescaline inspired conspiracy rants appeared, and then, soon after, his n00bness appears in another Curia bashing thread frequented by the good Professor - as well as an unsolicited denial by 420, claiming this new voice isn't his by a different name
    Quote Originally Posted by Professor420
    BTW I swear this is not another of my alternate accounts. Though I do like this guy...
    Within days, the dastardly n00b's attacks became subtle, and in my mind, far more dangerous in a thread he started.

    where again we see the hand of 420 intervening in the alleged n00b's well-concealed agitation for Curial anarchism

    Quote Originally Posted by Professor420
    Has enoch with this complaint not shown himself worthy of citizenship? Reputation is, by and large, the most grand issue of curial responsibility...
    And here the trail goes cold....

    enoch does give us a glimpse into his true nature with two other threads he started himself

    Is Jesus' divinity supported by the Gospels? Where the n00b reveals his true autocratic nature and desire to own every thread he starts while attempting to destroy the sanctity of the Jesus at the same time.

    Then a poll of the n00bs shows us where he seems to get his news from.


    Whether or not you believe enoch is really just a front for the Scholarly Demagogue...

    Don't ya'll think someone should take this fool out before it's too late.
    Mark my words.........



    ...........enoch

    Idiosyncratic? Yes. Poor? No.
    Next, we find ourselves welcoming an unfamiliar name, hiding a familiar face... Corporal Hicks, now called Ó Cathasaigh, has become our new Sports reporter!
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    That’s right, ladies and gentlemen! After a long absence of a sports section in the Helios, there has been a revival. I’ll try to comment on some of the threads in the Universitas Ludus Olympus as well as add an opinion or two.

    To start off, let’s take a look into the world of BASEBALL!. So far the season is early, and there is going to be a lot of surprises…we’ve got well over 100 games to go. Predictions? I’m going with the National league being dominated by the St Louis Cardinals, and a tuff battle between the Tigers and Yankees for the American League Pennant. Don’t count out Texas though, as they could prove to be the dark horse. We’re in for one hell of a season, rest assured. There’s a lot of ball to be played but there’s one thing we can all count on; The C.u.b.s. will be Completely Useless By September. http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/standings/index.jsp

    Moving on to Stanley Cup Playoffs. While unfortunately most of the playoffs have already taken place, there are still eight teams in the chase for the Stanley Cup, at the time this article was written that is.
    EASTERN CONFERENCE:
    (1) Sabres v. (6) Rangers
    (2) Devils v. (4) Senators

    WESTERN CONFERENCE:
    (1) Red Wings v. (5) Sharks
    (2) Ducks vs. (3) Canucks

    I’m not huge into hockey, but I do watch occasionally. Predictions…again? Certainly. I wouldn’t be too surprised if the Red Wings and the Devils battled it out for the cup. Of course the Sabres and Ducks are still forces to be reckoned with. Either way, someone’s probably going to be missing some teeth by the end of this.

    That’s all for this edition of the Helios. Feel free to PM requests if you feel your sports are being under covered, or if you want to put your own “professional” opinion out there.

    A nice addition and a wonderful article to introduce himself, diving straight in. Next up we have an old regular (the first regular to be published this issue, though more are later...), Scorch on the VV:

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    Well, thankfully the Vestigia Vetustatis, or more simply the VV, is bristling with interesting topics at the moment, some of which I'm going to look at in a matter of moments. One of my favourite threads at the moment to look through is the one regarding history's most critical battles.

    Out of all the masses of battles that have been discussed, the ones that keep appearing are those of Tours, Waterloo and Stalingrad - and I'd tend to agree that these are some of the most critical battles ever fought. Tours decided the fate of a divided Europe, still recovering from the fall of the Roman Empire, Waterloo spelt the end for Napoleon, perhaps one of the most successful Generals of that era and finally Stalingrad forced the Axis into a long retreat out of Eastern Europe, and the losses they sustained practically crippled their efforts on the Eastern front.

    There are, however, others that deserve mentioning, such as the Battle of Hastings, where William the Conquerer determined the fate of Britain, which in turn spread it's influence throughout the world.

    Another interesting topic is that of History's Greatest Leader. To be honest, I'd like to echo the choir of voices and stick my hand up for Julius Caesar. Ignoring the political ramifications of their actions, I think Caesar stands head and shoulders above the rest. No other leader was able to inspire such loyalty and love from those that he led, and not many other leaders could claim to have the success that Caesar had.

    If you'd like to consider the perspective of people from different nations, then I think this post would best sum it up:
    Quote Originally Posted by Nydirannon View Post
    Well let's look at the point of view for each country. It is hard to find an absolute great leader considering that there were some very old civilizations and new countries. Nowadays, the greatest power is the US, but the USA is a country which is less than 250 years old. I'am inspired by the game of civilisation.

    Antiquity

    Egypt: Ramses II
    Babylon: Hammurabi
    Persia: Cyrus the Great
    Greece, Macedon: Alexander the Great
    Rome: Julius Caesar, Augustus

    Middle Age

    Arabia: Saladin
    Byzantium: Justinian, Basile II
    England: Richard the Lionheart
    France: Charlemagne (Franco German), Joan of Arc
    Germany: Charlemagne, Barbarossa
    Mongolia: Gengis Khan.

    Renaissance and Modern pre industrial Age

    Turkey: Mehmet III and Suleyman the Great
    Spain: Isabelle, Philip II, Charles V (Habsburgh also)
    England: Elisabeth I
    Russia: Catherine II, Peter the Great
    France: Louis XIV, Napoleon
    Prussia: Frederic the Great.
    Japan: Tokugawa.

    Industrial and Post Industrial

    USA: Lincoln, Roosevelt
    UK: Winston Churchill
    France: Charles de Gaulle
    Russia: Lenine, Staline (very controversial leaders since I am not a communist, but I hate to say that they were influential).
    China: Mao: same reasoning as above
    Germany: Bismark, Helmut Kohl, Adenauer.

    I am sure that I forgot some important leaders. I try to be as complete as possible.
    Anyway, that's all from me for now, so I shall leave you with a quote that I particularly like:
    "History is nothing but a tale agreed upon"
    ~Napoleon Boneparte

    Moving swiftly onwards, Shaun has done some nice work in the Basement for us, putting together, alongside his computer, an article...

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    Hello, and welcome to my basement report for this edition of the Helios.

    The first thread that I would like to take a look at is this one, asking what your opinion is on the new quad core CPUs. Spart wrote;

    Depends on what you play really. I'm not even considering dual core yet, since I don't play much new games. And the few new games I play (mostly strategy) work fine with my A64 3000+, so.. it's mostly a matter of cash/usefulness ratio.
    But whatever floats your boat.
    I think I agree with this. If you only play older games, or don’t have much time to play games, then there is not much point in buying into the new dual/quad core CPU hype; yes, they are much, much better and far more future proof, but, if like me, the new DX10 games don’t quite take your fancy, then they are a bit of a waste of money. Furthermore, most applications run equally as well on dual cores and quad cores, with very little difference, if any. Its not until they, as in the developers, learn to actually use 4 cores properly - they can barely even use 2 currently. Different systems for different folks, I suppose; there sure as hell won't be a better feeling than playing Crysis on your QX6700 with top of the range graphics card.

    Kshcshbash has very kindly set up a programming academy. This is sure as hell worth a look, even if you are not into programming. Its especially worth a look if you are struggling with your programming school assignments or such.

    Which search engine do you use? Asked Lucius Julius. Well, the answer seems to be a resounding ‘Google’! As if it was going to be anything else… hell, I've never even heard of ‘Cox’! It seems Google is pwning the internet search engine market. Yahoo being closely second, and most others being unheard of.

    Finally, the useful links that you need to look at when you have a problem, or are planning on building a new PC;

    Up to the usual excellent quality, no? And now for our area-report, some nice politics, sourtesy of now-regular Curial reporter rome ac;
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    Welcome again to another glorious look into the anarchism witch is the Curia (or Parliamentum ) wee have a lot to talk about today so lets get right to it. Tribunal application have been open to the public (remember only Senatorii can applied to this position) Tac, Bel and Garb have already put up there name, there about two days left so anybody wishing to be a judge in the future here’s your chance to get some practice.
    A huge bunch of modders have been duly voted in for the honorary title of Opifex, Uranos for his mapping, and Makanyane also the entire teams of Arthurian: Total War, Chivalry: Total war and Fourth Age: Total War have also gained this title oh and I think some guy named Halie Satanus or something is Opifex (I think its just a typo) congratulation everybody. Obi Wan Asterix has duly stepped aside from his position of Speaker of the House and the votes for the new candidates have already started (Ozymandias, Sétanta, Setarcos Aneist and Justinian). Two new pieces of fresh meat have been hired for the position of Tribounos Scorch and Ragabash congratulation guys and that about it for this week news hope you have been inform by your neutralist curialist, rome ac.

    Thank you to rome ac for that Marresque report... though without the ears.

    Before I get to the main set of editorials this edition, I'm going to give you a few others first; one, from Oldgamer, on politics (of course) and the mob - an interesting topic and written on by an interesting writer, here;
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    Oldgamer Reporting for Duty ...

    With Respect, Godfather ...

    My sister married into the mob, many years ago. Her former husband is now deceased, but his father was a “made man” in the Cerone family (Jackie “the Lackey” Cerone) of Elmwood Park, Illinois, and Antonio was an enforcer, and sometimes hit man. He died under ... shall we say ... mysterious circumstances, about twenty years ago, as he sat in his living room easy chair. The official cause of death was a “brain aneurysm”, but the bruising at the base of his skull left some doubt concerning that ruling.

    So, how did my sister meet this dubious prospect for a husband? Simple. She was a Democrat Precinct Captain, in that area, and she needed some “help” dealing with the increasing effectiveness of the Republican Party. Antonio was more than willing to help in such a worthy cause. Of course, he had the support of his father in this endeavor, and with the greatest respect (of course!), from his godfather.

    I've lived most of my life in the State of Illinois. I grew up in Chicago, and the surrounding suburbs. One thing you quickly learn about, if you have an interest in politics, is the overarching and baleful influence of the mob on everything.

    In the movie The Hunt for Red October, Fred Thompson (GO FRED!) delivers the line, “Your average Russkie, son, don't take a dump without a plan.” Wonderful line ...

    Similarly, in Illinois politics, your average politician doesn't even think of breathing without the permission of the mob.

    Now, when I talk about the “mob”, I'm speaking about the old-fashioned, classic Italian/Sicilian mob, and not about the younger and more multicultural versions of it, like the Japanese yakusa, the El Salvadorans, or the Russians. They exist, and they're in the news because of their extreme violence. But the old mob of the movies still pulls the strings. They control the judges, the prosecutors, the mayors, the governors, and just about everyone and everything in between.

    Nothing happens in the State of Illinois without mob approval. There won't be a bill get out of committee in the state legislature, a new highway project (they control the unions), a tax hike, a new mayor of Chicago, a new gambling casino, or anything else, unless the mob nods it approval, and gets its piece of the action.

    You don't hear a lot about mob violence, anymore. There aren't gangs of Italian mobsters roving the streets with Thomson submachine guns, mowing down their adversaries with ruthless abandon, and so they don't get much attention from the media.

    But they still have their wars. The difference is, they have evolved to the point where one mob pits its prosecutors against the other mob's prosecutors, and the side that loses ends up in Sheridan State Prison or in a Federal pen. They keep a low profile.

    This is not to say that they have nothing to fear from their own. The occasional mobster ends up with a couple of .22-caliber bullets to the back of the head, or like my former brother-in-law, a "brain aneurysm". But for the most part, this is because someone has made the bad decision to turn state's evidence, and told a “trusted friend” what they intended to do. But the days of mob drive bys are almost over.

    Now, to illustrate the point about how nothing happens without the support of the mob, a few stories about Illinois (the State where every road eventually narrows to one lane, with more than one meaning to the phrase).

    First, have you ever heard of Vytorin? This is a prescription drug that is designed to lower blood pressure and drop one's cholesterol. It is a combination of the ingredients in two other drugs, Zocor and Zetia.

    In Illinois, there are about 250,000 people on the State's Medical Card, meaning that they get free health services at state expense (of course, that means taxpayer expense, but that's another editorial). When it comes to prescription medicines, there is an approved list which the state will pay for, and no other.

    Vytorin is not on the list. Zocor and Zetia are.

    “So what?”, you ask.

    Vytorin, if it was approved, would cost the average user, and the taxpayers, about $79 per month. However, Zocor and Zetia, if bought separately, cost the user about $289 per month.

    $289 per month versus $79 per month. Pretty big difference, isn't there? Since about 100 thousand Illinoisians, on the State's medical card, receive this combination of drugs, why doesn't the State save the taxpayer $21 million per month?

    The answer is really simple. The pharmaceutical companies, along with certain politicians and the mob, are pocketing large amounts of cash. Legal drug money, folks. That's something that Don Vito never thought about, I'll betcha!

    Second, the Illinois Safety Responsibility Act, and its offshoots ...

    There's nothing wrong with forcing people to have liability insurance on their cars, right? It makes the streets safer, correct? It causes people to look at driving as a privilege, and not a right, nez pas?

    Wrong ...

    The ISRA, which was passed way back in the 1970's, is a means of creating a captive market for the insurance industry, which gratefully kicks back some of the profits to politicians and ... you knew it was coming, didn't you? ... the mob.

    But there's a new wrinkle on this old law. Now, the state does “random” computer checks on the insurance policy numbers provided by people to the state. Someone gets a notice through the mail that they have to prove that, during a certain period, they were insured at least to the minimum amount provided by the ISRA. If they can't, their car's registration is suspended until they can prove insurance coverage, and they have to pay a $100 fine, without recourse to the court system. And if they are caught driving before they do prove their coverage, the fine goes from $100 to $1000.

    Now if you're driving a 2007 BMV, Mercedes, or high-end SUV, you're not likely to be included on the “random” check. Why? Because you're suspected of being rich, and your vehicle will likely be insured. If you drive an older car, your chances of being picked for the random search increase dramatically.

    I happen to have an older car, and a newer one. The older car is for my interest in the vehicle. It's a 1995 Mercury Cougar XR7 Limited Edition, with a 300-hp V8 engine (and no, I refuse to pay carbon offsets, Al). The other vehicle is a 2006 (I'll keep its identity to myself). Within the last couple of weeks, I received a notice about the Mercury that a random computer check had been done concerning it. There was no check about the 2006. Interesting, eh?

    So, who's more likely to be driving older cars? The working poor, and those in poverty, of course. This law is directed at ripping off these people ... whom the Democrats say they represent (They are the “party of the people”, right?) ... and God only knows where the money ends up. However, the Chicago Tribune recently ran a story WAY back in its Section A about the “possibility” that some politicians are enriching themselves, with this regulation, along with ... you guessed it ... the mob.

    There was no followup on this story. I wonder why?

    I'm not even going to touch on the largest tax increase in Illinois history, under Governor Rod Blogojevich (D), or his doubling of 270-some common fees that average people have to pay to live and do business in Illinois. I'm not going to entertain thoughts, in this column, on the State Legislature's turning the power companies loose to charge what they want, causing some people to go to their mailboxes and find that their electric bill is $1000+ for the month. And I'm not even going to speculate where all this dough is eventually ending up ...

    Governor Rod: With respect, godfather, we need to increase taxes.

    Mayor Daley: With respect, godfather, I wanna rip up Meigs Field and put a park with a casino there.

    The Godfather:
    You have my blessings ...

    ... of course, he wants a piece of the action!

    (Hmmm. I guess I did speculate as to where the dough was going, didn't I?)

    Next, after that tour de force, Farnan, responding to and reviewing a book - which, after this review, one hardly needs to bother to read!
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    Response to Resurrecting Empire by Rashid Khalidi

    It has been over four years now. Four years since the occurrence of the most controversial moves of the twenty-first century to date. Four years since the invasion of Iraq. That war, the reasons for it, and the ensuing occupation have been the subject of great debate across the world. Rashid Khalidi weighs in on all this in his book, Resurrecting Empire though comparison with previous events in the history of the Middle East involving Western powers.
    One way he conducts this comparison is using quotes from past conquerors of the Middle East and puts them against those from the Bush Administration. The reasons for this are obvious; it is an attempt to link the events together. This tactic is effective for persuading the masses, but it contains very little substance. It is a mere propagandistic move that lowers the standard of the entire work. Using simple quotes to link together events can be used to link nearly any two events in history together. It is sad that he resorts to such methods while he has the expertise to do much better.
    Despite the unprofessional use of quotes, Khalidi’s book has many interesting incites. One of these incites is about the historical relationship between the US and the Middle East. Unlike what some talking heads would like the public to believe, the United States and the Middle East have not always been at odds with each other. Though he glosses over the Barbary Pirate wars, he convincingly reveals that prior to the cold war the United States was well regarded in the Middle East. This was primarily due to the isolationist nature of the US. Most of the Americans the people of the Middle East saw where missionaries, who only proselytized to Christians, and teachers who built universities, such as the American University in Beirut. Both groups treated Middle Easterners with respect and received the same back. Unlike the other Great Powers of the day the United States had little interest in the Middle East and was not clearly aligned with the Great Powers that were. This separated the country from the criticisms leveled against France, Britain, and Russia all of whom were greatly exploiting. Furthermore, the mere disinterests seemed like benevolence in comparison and earned many hearts among the people of the Middle East. The US had an even larger boost in PR following the First World War due to Wilson’s claim to fight for free determination of all peoples. Though this did not pan out for the Middle East, it did change the US’s public image in the Middle East from a benevolent isolationist to an anti-colonial force, thus a potential ally to Arab nationalists. Not even the oil deals with the House of Saud and the support of Israel’s formation destroyed America’s image in the Middle East. It was not until the Cold War started showing its ugly side that America started to be viewed badly.
    Khalidi emphasizes mostly the relationship between the United States and Iran as the cause of the souring of the public image of the US in the Middle East. He details the British exploitation of the Iranian Shah in order to receive a very one-sided deal over oil. This deal destroyed the public image of the Shah and showed him as a puppet of the West, specifically the United Kingdom. This resentment, along with mistreatment by the Shah, led to the election of Mosaddeq as prime minister. Mosaddeq then proceeded to conduct anti-Western initiatives, such as nationalizing the oil industry. This move greatly angered the British who were making a good deal of money out of their extremely one-sided deal with Iran. The British responded, with the US, to launch a coup in Iran overthrowing Mosaddeq and placing the Shah back into control of Iran. They then renegotiated the oil deal with the Shah. It was slightly more beneficial to Iran, but it was still one-sided. The major difference in this deal was that the United States became a partner in the oil profits. This move made the United States greatly invested in the future of Iran and making sure it remained within the US sphere of influence. This support of the overthrow of the Shah convinced the Middle East that the United States was as much of a colonizer as its British and French allies. That, along with continual support of Israel throughout modern history, has turned the United States from a potential ally into the Great Satan.
    Khalidi does not fall into the trap of stating that Islam is incompatible with Democracy that many talking heads proclaim. He gives examples that include Lebanon and Turkey. Both of those are functioning democracies and both have a majority Islamic population. Also included are the governments of the colonial era. Even those governments had very little power they were still democracies. He actually uses this argument to imply that the people of the Muslim world can form democracies on their own without Westerners to teach them how. The only flaw with this argument is that the will to form the governments is not what is only necessary. What is also necessary is that the governments that prevent progress be pressured to accept it. The current groups in power have no inherent interest in allowing progress to continue. They purposefully retard any progress that is taken through repressive measures. Unless they are forced to change they will not.
    The reasons behind the invasion, according to Khalidi, are imperial intentions. He states that the goal of elements within the administration is to set up a new American Empire. The invasion of Iraq was just one example of this nefarious objective. To explain this he uses examples from America’s past treatment of the Middle East. Claiming that America has never fought and supported democracy there, so why should it start now? This viewpoint is one expressed throughout the world, especially by those critical of the invasion. They agree that this invasion is an exercise in neo-colonialism, similar to the efforts of the British in Egypt. That view is supremely flawed, especially considering more current events. Unlike the faux governments of mandate Iraq, this new Iraqi government truly has power. This is clearly evidenced by the United States forces backing down after the Iraqi National Government requested them to in Fallujah and on the hunt for Al Sadr. The Iraqi National Government has also launched into negotiations with Syria and Iran against the wishes of the United States, and has at times been frustrating. Also, unlike the age of European empires, there lacks any political will to create such, especially in the US. Finally, the government cannot keep the smallest secret secret, thus a hidden goal of building an empire seems far-fetched.
    In conclusion, despite have some valid points, Khalidi’s thesis does not hold true. While it is good to learn from history, he places too much emphasis on what has happened before. If such was true the American Revolution was doomed, due to precedence even in that time of the military commander taking total control as had happened in England. Also many of his statements seem too textbook anti-war. By that I mean they are used by everybody opposed to the war no matter how much knowledge they have. Many buzzwords such as Neo-Con, Imperialism and such were also used, showing the author’s personal beliefs and defeating an air of objectivity. However despite all of that, the book’s insight into historical relationships between the US and the Middle East was very enlightening.


    A book review from Farnan on a political book.

    And finally, some philosophy from Setarcos Aneist... by philosophy, I could also say an attack on it. Though there is one factual error in there, its still a nice piece...
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    What is it to be wise? Is it to have knowledge? To understand the knowledge you have? Or simply to have a bushy beard and write bestsellers on philosophy? Is it to have common sense? To be renown for your library or perhaps just have the confidence to stand up and make everyone know what you think?
    Of course not, it is none of the above. I have never met someone who was truly wise. Recently there was a philosophy conference in Jersey. One of the speakers was the eminent philosopher Steven Law. Half time I went to speak to him about Authority, an idea he hated. We must have spoken for nearing twenty minutes until the break ended. To conclude he introduced me to his book “The war for children’s minds”.
    You would have thought of all people likely to be wise it would be one of Britain’s great philosophers, but no, Law fell flat. His book was a reasoning minefield, if you ever strayed from the “authoritarians are wrong” message; you suddenly noticed he was defending someone else’s position… then saying he was right. It was like a broken vase someone reassembled as a lamp, it just didn’t fit together. One of Britain’s “wisest” was a beggar in a suit, his book was a moneymaking item, nothing else.
    Another one of the world’s supposed finest thinkers, Alister McGrath, wrote “The Dawkins Delusion” within the last year. The best this pathetic excuse for an intellectual piece of reading could manage was “Dawkin’s points are immature”. If you’re one of those who needs two opinions on every issue please choose a different example then this, your belief in the superiority of man (and ironically, the existence of God) will be shattered by this disgraceful creation.
    But if the Earth’s “intellectuals” fail, who is there to replace them? Who really deserves the name “wise”? Obviously not those who deemed “The Dawkins Delusion” fit to be published. But then, are these writers really the great intellectuals? DO they compare to the Dalai Lama for example? Leader of a philosophy of life so widespread it has been branded (a misconception) as a religion. But surely there are others, those more quiet that we, as not omniscient, cannot know of, those who know better then to let their contented and enlightened lives suffer the scourge of advertisement and celebrity. Or maybe they have realised that “the one thing I know is that I do not know everything”, we may never know.
    It’s a pity we don’t have a worldwide information sharing system for them to use, isn’t it?

    Now, here we come to the meat. Before we go on, I wish you to cast your minds back two weeks, to April 16th. Think about it, and the terrible events of the Virginia Tech massacre that transpired that day. The import of those events stretched almost across the world; certainly their impact did, and our hearts go out to those who lost relatives in the killing. However there is a more practical reason for giving this scene-setting; those of you who are faint hearted, who were affected by the shooting, or simply who do not wish to be reminded of it, should not read the next three editorials - they focus on the matter to the exclusion of almost all else. Any letters of complaint stemming from these editorials should be adressed to me, not the authors themselves, please.
    In order, we have Grimsta; Lord Rahl; the Black Prince; and Shaun.
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    My god.

    This is why I love "Other Places", only in America could an angry Korean get a firearm and run rampant around a university and execute a **** load of people, then knock himself off.

    See where your precious second ammendment gets you? An angry man with enough ammunition to start a small conflict in the Balkans and coincidentally the Violence capacity of a Serbian Junkie.

    Actually, for those of you who can't see into the fabled Helios writing staff forum (there isn't much, couple of goats and a Mongolian shoe last time I checked), I started this editorial off in the worst possible way

    "Shotgun Virginia."

    As I'm sure you'll all agree I was probably the wrong person to approach a sensitive subject such as this so I'll be pretty brief.

    You can only blame yourselves and your stupid bloody laws, get rid of the bloody weaponry and then you may see a reduction in the number of nutty students blasting 9mm size chunks out of each other in the class.

    I mean Honestly, why? Haven't you learned? I think this is what America needed to open its bloody eyes to the fact it has outdated firearms laws.

    If it takes the deaths of 32 innocents to bring this to the public attention then I hope you find a way to sleep in your beds at night because if this happened in Scotland I would sure as hell have a guilty conscience... Remember Dunblane? You wanna know something? We learnt our ****ing lesson and you should to.

    End of Rant.

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    With the recent catastrophe at Virginia Tech University on Monday, it was only a matter of time before the incident became a political debate. I have not wanted to jump into the debate but I believe that my opinion needs to be expressed.

    The main issue, as the incident was expected to become, is gun control. It is obvious that the United States less restrictions on firearms than other nations but the US does have a system in place which includes restrictions. For those of us who have purchased guns we know that there are restrictions. I live in Texas and there are plenty of restrictions on firearms. Currently, there is a law here that prohibits firearms within 1,000 feet of any property which is used by a school and I believe that most, if not all, states have laws similar to this. This means that no one can have any firearms on school grounds. The same can be said for VT. Only the police are allowed to have them on school grounds. Some may say that there is a problem with the gun laws because, if obtaining the 9mm handguns that the shooter had would have been illegal, then the situation might have been avoided. This isn't a very good argument. Although it may sound good it is, in reality, not. When you have someone who is mentally unstable and wishes to kill someone, they will find whatever means possible to do so. They do not care about legality. Because of this there should be no distinction about whether having those guns would be legal or illegal. If he got them illegally, which many criminals do, then there is really no foreseeable way to stop them. If he got them legally then there is no way to stop him either unless we knew he was going to murder someone. I find the argument a moot point. What shall we do, confiscate everyone's guns every time this sort of thing happens? That isn't possible.

    The incident at VT isn't really about gun control but some have twisted it to be. Guns are just like alcohol. They are harmless when used correctly but can easily kill if used incorrectly. Should we restrict alcohol some more? I think most members of this forum would think not! I have personally used guns for sport and recreation and did not feel as if what I was doing was overly dangerous or wrong. There are many people who use guns for hunting and shooting without committing crimes so because others abuse the same right does that mean all should have their rights taken away? I don't think so. There are many myths about gun control in the world that I wish to point out. One myth is that severe restrictions on guns leads to lower murder rates. This may be true in some cases but not in all. Making a comparison between the murder rates in the US versus the UK can be made to make a point but it also leaves out information which is contrary. Switzerland has three times the gun ownership of Germany but has lower murder rates. Other countries such as Israel, New Zealand, and Finland also have high ownership and low murder rates. We can see that just because more restrictions are put up doesn't mean that things will necessarily change. The VT shooting was one man with firearms who does not represent the overwhelming majority of other gun owners in the United States. However, since gun control is a hot topic issue certain people have made this tragedy a tool for pushing their agendas.

    I don't really see why people want the federal government of the US to put more restrictions on firearms. Some of us remember that there was a horrible school shooting in Canada where people aren't allowed to have handguns and yet it happened there! The federal government, in my opinion, shouldn't be making any decisions on gun control. It is our right to bear arms and it should be the right of the state legislature to decide whether or not restrictions should be put into place. Buying a gun is a choice and so it should stay. Guns don't cause the crimes, remember, people do. Millions of cases a year involve use of a firearm as self defense in the United States and so one could make the argument that guns can help stop crime. It boggles me how the same people who trust the government and authority the least are those who trust them the most...when it comes to having or controlling firearms. Who has the right to tell someone else that they can't defend their own life? Most people have guns for sport, recreation, or self defense, not murder. Again I will go back to my alcohol comparison. There are some who abuse alcohol and kill people and the same can be said of firearms. Does that mean that firearms should be restricted more?

    I really can't find a good argument for restricting firearms more than they are now. It isn't the restrictions that are the problem. We all know that. It is the enforcement of existing laws and the individual who is the problem. We allow women to have the right to have an abortion but at the same time we don't want people to have the right to bear a firearm? Where is the logic in that? If I want to buy a gun then I want to be able to buy it. Does that mean that I am bad? Does the fact that I am buying something that can kill someone make me a bad person? Not in any way, shape, or form. There are more vehicle deaths in the US than firearms deaths every year so statistically a car is more deadly than a gun. I am assuming that we should have more restrictions on vehicles? Please...I don't see anyone making that point every time there is a mutli-car pileup on the highway. I believe I have stated my point quite clearly now that making the statement that more gun control is needed isn't such a clear issue. I wish to send my thoughts and prayers to those affected by the VT shootings.

    Lord Rahl

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    I'd like to abandon Queer Concern for this edition and write a response to Lord Rahls Article for my editorial, if only so that helios has the pro gun and anti gun articles, as well as GrimSta's rant.


    The Myth of Restrictions and Legal Use
    A Response to Lord Rahl.

    Having had the opportunity to reads the editorial of my honourable friend, Lord Rahl, I'm going to go along with the obvious theme for this Helios and abandon Queer Concern. I could, if so inclined, find some manner to twist the horrific VT incident into an article on gay rights, but I'd rather not.

    Rahl is entirely right in saying that it's inevitable that gun control debates would come of the VT shootings. Following similar events in Germany, Switzerland, Canada and the UK, it happened too... I think what's notable about the US situation is the failure of anything whatsoever to come of these debates. For my American cousins, it would seem the right to bear arms is such a sacred enshrined right that they rate it higher than that of their children lives... harsh isn't... but here in Europe, we have no second amendment, but we do have Article 2. Article 2, in the European sense reads "Everyone's Right to Life shall be protected". Forgive me for preferring this approach.

    My friend writes off the arguments about legality and illegality of gun ownership as merely a not very good argument, and I think this best sums up the extent of the problem. Yes, nothing will prevent people from getting their hands on guns, if they are illegal. Yes, smuggling guns into America is a hell of a lot easier than into the UK. But if you remove the supply of guns, if you make it harder for people to get guns, then it becomes harder for people to commit gun crime. If there were firearms restrictions in the US, so that the guns this troubled youth sought were illegal, and background checks would have prevented him buying ones that were, where would he have got guns from? Sure, there's the black market, but lets be honest, not every one has access to the black market. I find it very hard to believe that in a small Virginia town this guy could have found an easy source for black market guns. There is a world of difference between walking into a hardware store and buying a gun off the rack, than getting one off the black market, not least of which is the need for the right contacts. Its not impossible for this tragedy to have happened had the hardware store not been able to sell guns, but it would reduce the likelihood of it happening by several levels.

    Its also a poor comparison to compare guns to alcohol... needless to say, alcohol is a restricted product, places that sell it have to be licensed and so on. The well known line of the NRA "Gun's Don't Kill People, People Kill People" is equally fallacious. Ask any coroner recording the death of a gun victim, he won't say, killed by person X, he'll say, killed by a bullet from a 9mm handgun". People kill people. Yes, they do, it's an age old problem, I see no need to facilitate it though. People kill people easier with weapons. restrict the weapons, you restrict the opportunity to kill with them.

    My friend makes mention of his hunting and sporting uses of guns, and i applaud him for such recreational uses, though i personally prefer swords. May it serve to surprise him though, that in a country with some of the most restrictive gun laws in the world, you can still do that? A well known fact that many members of the Royal Family, including the heir apparent, enjoy stalking and hunting and pheasant shooting, and do so armed with guns and not a breach of the law in sight! They are hardly the only ones. What we talk about when we say gun control, is not a ban on guns, outright. Merely restrictions on guns. Restricting for what purposes people can profess to buy guns, requiring the licensing of guns, requiring background checks on people who wish to buy guns. None of which infringe your sacred right to bear arms. Its just a matter of due process. And yes, also a ban on some types of guns, but lets be realistic, how many people here go hunting with a grenade launcher, or an assault rifle, or use them for sporting purposes?

    It is wrong to draw too many conclusions between data from the US and the UK on gun deaths and gun crime. As has been pointed out repeatedly in the Thema Devia, we have very different cultures. However, after Hungerford, and then Dunblane, there was a strong movement to restrict firearms in this country, that the Conservative government of the day gave into. Since then, we have never had a comparable incident. If, after Columbine, similar restrictions had been put in place, would the US be able to say the same thing? I'm willing to restrict the right of people to buy semi-automatic machine pistols if it means VT won't happen again.

    A better example is Switzerland though, as Rahl notes, like the US, Switzerland has massive gun ownership. Again, it might surprise him to learn that Switzerland too has controls on guns. Permits to carry guns in public (a Waffentragschein) are generally issued only to private citizens working in occupations such as security though some cantons issue the permits very liberally. Furthermore you have to state a valid reason for requiring the permit, AND pass an examination proving both weapon handling skills and knowledge regarding lawful use of the weapon.

    As for self defence... I really question the value of having guns in self defence. Using guns well requires practice, a certain level of skill. Those who have fired guns know this from experience. You can't pick up a gun at a range for the first time in your life and expect to hit the bullseye on a target every shot. In a situation such as VT, if someone had pulled a gun and tried to shoot the shooter, he has as much chance of injuring someone else. I'm minded of the obviously fictional incident on a TV series where Person A walks into a church, lawfully carrying a concealed weapon, and shoots his ex-wife. Person B, also lawfully carrying a concealed weapon draws his gun and shoots Person A, misses, and kills Person C, a 9yr old girl. Quite frankly, I'd rather leave shooting the shooter to professionals who are trained in that kind of thing, than risk killing one of my own friends accidentally.

    Then we compare guns to cars... need I remind my friend that people who drive cars are required to have a licence as well, and undergo what is (in the UK at least) a vigorous test of both their driving ability, hazard perception, and the highway code. Cars are regulated to the point that people who use them according to how they've been instructed to are unlikely to be harmed. Unfortunately the same cannot be said for guns.

    The role of the Federal government I'm ambivalent on. Not being a US citizen, I don't fully comprehend the delicate interplay between state and federal politics, my one opinion being that its the role of every government to protect its citizens.

    In the UK at least, there has been much media mention of the age old and much theorised link between violence on TV/Games and reality. As Sam Leith recalls, "For Jamie Bulger, it was Child's Play. For Columbine, it was Marilyn Manson and The Matrix. For the Los Angeles riots it was Cop Killer. For the murder of Stefan Pakeerah, it was a violent videogame called Manhunt (it turned out, in that case, that it was the victim, rather than the killer, who had been a fan of the game - a fact that didn't in the slightest dim the hysteria). Grand Theft Auto has, in its time, been blamed for more or less everything." The VT killer is linked with the movie Oldboy. I think it easy to dismiss these claims at least. How many people watching Kill Bill or Child's Play, or playing GTA then go out and relive it. However cool some of these gory films may seem, its very obvious that ordinary well adjusted people are not influenced by them, if they were, we'd probably all be dead by now, or wading in seas of blood. It is however, yet another argument in favour of gun restriction. Its revealed that the VT killer was mentally unstable, that there had even been moves to get him committed. In a UK background check, that would have certainly been revealed and would have been a serious black mark against him being allowed a gun. Its almost scary that someone for whom many people had serious concerns about was still able to lawfully buy a firearm.

    Its easy to write off gun control remarks as being those of the liberal left out to destroy personal freedoms, and those of the pro gun lobby as that of the right wing cowboys with not a care for anything but themselves. Political stereotypes have no place in this debate, if only because the person writing this gun control article is not a member of the liberal left, but the conservative right. Ultimately, gun control, and restrictions on the who how and what can be owned in terms of guns will not solve gun crime. But the evidence from Canada, from Switzerland, from the UK is pretty conclusive that it can go a long way to do so, and can do so without preventing people enjoying legitimate recreational uses that guns can be put to safely. Its a question of balance in the end, and when it comes down to it, I'd rather wait 5 days to undergo a background check before being issued a firearms license, than see another Hungerford or Dunblane on BBC News. I only wish the same opinions were held by my cousins across the water.

    the Black Prince

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    Aw jeez, not another Virginia tech shooting rant! Well, er, not really. I am not here to complain about America’s gun laws, or to complain about the police’s appallingly slow reactions. I am here to voice concerns over those who died, and their rights.

    The second amendment declares "a well regulated militia" as "necessary" to maintaining a free state, and as explanation for prohibiting infringement of "the right of the people to keep and bear arms". There is no denying this, that Americans have the right to buy and carry guns. What I am more concerned with is the 32 innocents, and their rights. Do people in America have the right to live a life free from the fear or threat of a lunatic legally buying a gun and using it to shoot them?

    It seems that the aftermath of this tragedy has resurfaced the never really buried “should we be allowed to carry guns” debate. Is the second amendment outdated? Could an American militia stand up to a tyrannical government? I don’t care, this is not my point. My point is that we should be more concerned about people’s rights to live a life free from fear of being injected with 9mm chunks of lead. I keep seeing people rambling on about their precious second amendment rights to bear arms. But I have so far only heard on person mention people’s right to live a life free from being blasted by a madman with a legal gun. And she was not an American, she was a Brit on a British show!

    In all honesty, I think its these rights that we should focus on, trying to improve them. Can people live a life free from the threat of mad gunmen if anyone can buy a gun? So far, not really, there has been quite a few school massacres in America, not to mention quite a few foiled ones as well. When it happened in Dunblane, us Brits learned our lesson.

    So, as I end this short editorial, I ask you to stop thinking about your precious second amendment for a minute, and think of the rights of those who died. Sadly, both the pro and anti gun bandwagons have jumped on this opportunity to support their arguments. The pro gun agenda saying that if all the students had guns, they would have gunned down the gunner, turning the school into the set of an action movie. The anti gun agenda saying that if the gunner never had a gun, no one would have died, because he so obviously would not have used something like, say, a knife. Even the news channels were showing the twisted fella’s video that he made. He is getting more publicity than the people who died. This is not right. He does not deserve to be remembered. However, those who died innocently do.

    Once more, I give my condolences to those who lost relatives or friends, and remind you to direct complaints to me, not my reporters - they don't need the hate mail, and its my job to deal with it.

    So that's us done here; thanks for reading, see you again in a fortnight, and now go and rep my reporters; they deserve it all over again.
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    This deserves some responses.

    Well done guys and its a crying shame no one else is even replying with buckets of praise for us (me)

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