BROKEN CRESCENT: Ghulams and Generals

**Hounf of Culan** · June 22, 2007, 05:24 PM

Nice general nnnm!

**nnnm** · June 23, 2007, 01:05 AM

all

**Tadzreuli** · June 23, 2007, 11:48 AM

Alright, its a pretty shoddy drawing, but I think it illustrates the equipment of the Georgians/Armenians quite well. Now, I think NNMM's drawing is incredible; much better than this, but I think lammellar, upper-arm plates and bazubands (not to mention a lot of maile) fit the time period a little better.

@IrAr

very nice scetch ! Very really and more close to historical !

**IrAr** · June 23, 2007, 12:47 PM

Yes, I tried to depict the Eastern-Christian (meaning farther east than Byzantium) style of layering lots of armour. Shoulder plates, full-maile suits (with mask), lammellar with cuirass over it, conical helms, some scales, etc. If nothing else, those who wear it have to be pretty strong.

Of course, my illustration just serves as a set of guidelines.

I have tried to stay in the middle of the road: I didn't try to stray to far either way, and I feel I did well in at least that field. For example, he has a general (for the area) helm and a generally "Caucasian" (in the literal sense of the word) sword.

**Mike13531** · June 23, 2007, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by mirage41

Cool pic Irar. Better than anything I could ever draw!

Dunno if you guys saw this already:

It an official screen from the upcoming Kingdoms Expansion. If you notice there is a new byzantine general unit in the pic.

I think that could give at least some idea of what could be done for eastern christian generals.

isn't that a bit too old?

**The Mongol** · June 23, 2007, 11:07 PM

He was posting it for people who perhaps don't go out of the BC forum. (Like me, well... rarely)

**Mike13531** · June 24, 2007, 01:45 PM

no i don't mean old old, i mean the general's age

**Strelac** · June 26, 2007, 08:23 AM

Fellow Georgians, Armenians, and Byzantine enthusiast …bow to your king

Cheers,
Strelac

The Kingdoms is still one step behind…

**Zephrelial** · June 26, 2007, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by Strelac

Fellow Georgians, Armenians, and Byzantine enthusiast …bow to your king

Cheers,
Strelac

The Kingdoms is still one step behind…

Excellent work indeed Strelac

One question did you have to draw all this by yourself?

**AlphaDelta** · June 26, 2007, 08:32 AM

Holy *****! Nice work mate.

**Strelac** · June 26, 2007, 08:37 AM

thanks,

@ Zeph
the image is render of an actual unit, which I meshed and textured,...by my self

**IrAr** · June 26, 2007, 09:15 AM

Great skin, Strelac! Very detailed, truly impressive! One question, why the fleur de lis?

**Strelac** · June 26, 2007, 09:35 AM

It generally symbolizes the kingly appearance, and it is not specific to either eastern Christian faction…however, if there a different symbol that can be used and it would equally represent the all three eastern faction, as well as being closely historically supportive, I would reconsider.

maybe just a cross instead?

thx

Originally Posted by IrAr

Great skin, Strelac! Very detailed, truly impressive! One question, why the fleur de lis?

**IrAr** · June 26, 2007, 09:49 AM

I believe a single, large cross should do the trick.

**nnnm** · June 26, 2007, 10:05 AM

woooow His Majesty are just Great

very beautiful detail Strelac

**Tadzreuli** · June 26, 2007, 10:07 AM

Amazingly, directly as from historical times presently... I do not have words to express my admiration !!!! BRAVO Strelac + rep !!!

**Zephrelial** · June 26, 2007, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by Strelac

thanks,

@ Zeph
the image is render of an actual unit, which I meshed and textured,...by my self

Great work indeed,I understand,this gave me an idea I may as well use the render method,and finally succeed to create a decent looking Teutonic Knight(with capes,winged helmets ahhh..God am I not obsessed with that

)
Again very nice work Strelac

**Aerrol** · June 26, 2007, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by Strelac

Fellow Georgians, Armenians, and Byzantine enthusiast …bow to your king

Cheers,
Strelac

The Kingdoms is still one step behind…

...Holy crap. O_O. I mean, DAMN. This is just AWESOME! Normally, I'm not too big a fan of the open-faced helms, but I am in love with this model! Bravo!

**~~Miraj~~** · June 26, 2007, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by Strelac

Fellow Georgians, Armenians, and Byzantine enthusiast …bow to your king

Cheers,
Strelac

The Kingdoms is still one step behind…

WOW!

Kingdoms ain't got nothing on you! That is truly amazing. I knew you'd be at your best for these specialist units. Truly, great work. I am almost inclined for you to do an entire general's bodyguard unit for the eastern christians (primarily georgia & armenia) based of this :hmmm:.

EDIT: Yeah, in agreement Irar, I think just a simple cross - perhaps an orthodox one? - would be great to replace the fleur.