Lopus' Names Mod

**Condottiere SOG** · April 20, 2007, 06:37 PM

Has many errors where the Italians are concerned.

'of' = 'di'
not 'de'

ex. di is bound to the Surname
Niccolo diMedici
Niccolo diMachiavelli diFirenze
Paolo diCarmagnola
Astere diCarrera
Polo diFerrari
Marco diPolo
Agnus diSpoletto

'de' is French, Spanish as 'do' is Portuguese

Jules de Fleury(Fr.)
Astrud do Gilberto(Pr.)
Roman de Carlos(Sp.)

**tornnight** · April 20, 2007, 10:18 PM

When the Character names project is a bit more mature, we will be using that.

Thats one reason why I made the name verifier tool.

**deRougemont** · April 20, 2007, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by Condottiere SOG

Has many errors where the Italians are concerned.

'of' = 'di'
not 'de'

ex. di is bound to the Surname
Niccolo diMedici
Niccolo diMachiavelli diFirenze
Paolo diCarmagnola
Astere diCarrera
Polo diFerrari
Marco diPolo
Agnus diSpoletto

Can you confirm this Condo? I ran into quite a few Venetian names with "da", and since it was the more common, replaced the vanilla de with the da I was finding. Dialectically you will find variations, though typically di is the more common in the rest of Italy. We need someone from NE Italy to tell us for sure, honestly; this can be tricky. We also have to take into account that the time period these names are coming from was era when grammar rules were close to non-existent. This is especially bad in the case of one-syllable words that end in a vowel that sounds nearly the same such as di/da/de.

**Condottiere SOG** · April 25, 2007, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by deRougemont

Can you confirm this Condo? I ran into quite a few Venetian names with "da", and since it was the more common, replaced the vanilla de with the da I was finding. Dialectically you will find variations, though typically di is the more common in the rest of Italy. We need someone from NE Italy to tell us for sure, honestly; this can be tricky. We also have to take into account that the time period these names are coming from was era when grammar rules were close to non-existent. This is especially bad in the case of one-syllable words that end in a vowel that sounds nearly the same such as di/da/de.

da as well. di is much more prevalent.

**deRougemont** · April 26, 2007, 03:23 PM

Just to keep you guys updated, I have edited the CNP mod files using the names verifier and added two more factions to boot, for a grand total of 13 completely new character names lists. I currently have a new download for it, but it is only meant to be used with M2:TW v 1.2. Since you guys edit your descr_strat.txt so often I won't make a download specific to your mod (yeah, I'll let you do the hard work!) However, once you start using the CNP names I'll put a link in my forum to your mod.

**tornnight** · April 26, 2007, 05:49 PM

Great! I'll plan to add it in for the next release.

**H2HSnake** · May 03, 2007, 01:45 PM

hi guys.
I can make changes to the Polish names,because there were many mistakes in Your version,and i understand that because You're not able to make correct names for all nations that are in M2TW without help of ppl who belongs to these nations

.Same goes to the 2 part names with "of_Warsaw" for example which in polish is"z_Warszawy".I can make it too if You want.or can You tell me how can i edit this by myself and not crash the game?which files do i need to edit?i tried with dscr_names and "dscr_names lookout" but then no polish names where visible in the game.

**tornnight** · May 04, 2007, 01:46 PM

That would be very helpful.
We are going to use the Character Names Project starting with the next release.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=327

I'm sure they could use your help.

**deRougemont** · May 04, 2007, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by H2HSnake

hi guys.
I can make changes to the Polish names,because there were many mistakes in Your version,and i understand that because You're not able to make correct names for all nations that are in M2TW without help of ppl who belongs to these nations

.Same goes to the 2 part names with "of_Warsaw" for example which in polish is"z_Warszawy".I can make it too if You want.or can You tell me how can i edit this by myself and not crash the game?which files do i need to edit?i tried with dscr_names and "dscr_names lookout" but then no polish names where visible in the game.

The CNP has a Polish thread here. As you can see, a few people have attempt the Polish names, but I was never completely happy with the result, so I have not included new Polish names yet. Feel free to post a list in my forum. You don't have to do any of the modding work, I'll take care of that (though I am taking a month off from modding; I need a break).

Also, there is another person coming up with a new Polish list (Hans Kloss), and he will be posting it within the month. Nevertheless, post yours as well. We can always combine the best name from each list.

Cheers!