Sparta and Walls

[Romanized Spartan]

Will Sparta be able to build walls? If not will walls automatically be destroyed when Sparta captures a city?

[Ketchup]

I asssume that sparta itself wont have walss, it didn't historically, but I doubt that Spartan-captured cities would have the walls destroyed. IIRC when spartans captured or defeated a city they didn't really occupy it as so, but they maintained control over the city while letting them get on with life.

[DCyDe]

when spartans captured or defeated a city they didn't really occupy it as so, but they maintained control over the city while letting them get on with life.

....they maintained control over the city while letting them get on with life the spartan way.

[spirit_of_rob]

Sparta herself has no walls and the faction will not construct them but if they take a city with them it will prob leave them as they are

[mitchverr]

what about when sparta defeated athens they made them distroy there walls

[spirit_of_rob]

WEll i know in RTW once walls are built you cannot demolish them so i guess your stuck with it. Not my area coding but as far as i know once walls are built they remain

[Romanized Spartan]

It’s good to know that you won’t part ways with history when it comes to Spartan defenses and your response to my second question doesn’t reduce my interest in this mod

[Racer X]

I think most Cretan cities were also unwalled, because they followed the same principle as the Spartans - if the city is sieged the men can be sent out immediately rather than become soft and cowardly, hiding behind a defence.

[strikerjd]

Sparta (as faction) can't build wall in sparta (city), but in other cities, yes.
Here, you say: "but they destroyed walls when they taken cities"
>> right, that's why walls give a bonus for democracy in greek cities (athenians try to build longwall in their empire).
>> so, you play sparta, you should not build walls...

[Dannath]

what about when sparta defeated athens they made them distroy there walls

The mod doesn't go that far into history, it stops before that war, so you don't have to worry about being historical while taking Athens with Sparta.

[Snevets]

The spartan policy with walls developed out of circumstance- the Spartans never had them because they weren't necessary in the geographically secure Sparta, so the attitude developed that the use of walls was weak. The Spartans were never kept from walling off their city because they thought the practice inferior- when it became necessary in their later history the kings didn't hesitate. We're not going to allow you any walls because it doesn't work well with the new geography, and because we like at least some historical accuracy...

[Dannath]

Is there any other faction that cant build walls?

[Kennylz]

Good call with the walls. For those who want to take down the walls as Sparta, after you win a seige, just don't repair the walls, or if you are seiged, but sally forth before they have a chance to 'lay seige to your walls'.

Then it can be roleplayed the same.

[chichono]

Is there any way you could make the destruction of walls part of a the capture phase (Occupy, Enslave, Massacre) via scripting or something like that?

[HopliteGlory]

Is there any way you could make the destruction of walls part of a the capture phase (Occupy, Enslave, Massacre) via scripting or something like that?

I think this is one of the most interesting suggestions I've heard in a while. Would be great if this were possible. I don't know, maybe it is, I haven't played any large scale mods since RTR 6.0 (just twiddling my thumbs waitin' on this one).

[Argyri]

I also like chichonos suggestion...

[spirit_of_rob]

Im no expert by any means but i think even if walls are 100% damaged on the campaign map hte walls are still present they just have holes in. As i said im not totally certain off this but this is what i think it is.

[Cymry]

when you play EB and you take a town . the ancient governmentbuilding ist dammaged. you have to destroy it manual, because they didn't manage to script a full destroiing
thus they didn#t find a way
bad english , but i'm lazy

[catintheoven]

another good option would be aswell as occupy, enslave and masacre would be offer to another faction, thats would be great