You know whats so great about this game?

**Dutchpower** · April 13, 2007, 04:40 AM

Its unbalanced as hell! Thats right, when you have a all powerfull general he IS all powerfull.

I LOVED the jedi's, it was a big reason for me coming back each time.

I remember one danish(bkb or xl mod i dunno) campaign in wich i had the best combat prince ever, His valour was maxed and and best of all he was dismounted(Danish noble)

As my danish campaign began to fail with the polish and english fighting back and the egyptians invading britanny(!)

I pulled my best units back and let europe revolt. My last prince to make the trip home got stuck in russia and was pushed into a battle with some cumans.

The cumans had a massive force consisting of more or less 3000 men. My prince how ever had only 400 battlehardend veterans. The battle was set in a mountain terrain with me up on a hill in a perfect defensive position.

The battle began with the cumans commiting there first wave to combat. First contact was made when a group of spearmen foolishy enough charged my jedi prince. My prince RAN trough a 200 group of spearmen, when he got out the other side the 40 danish nobles turned around and took a second charge killing them all but 20.

Most of my other army consisted of high end viking huscarls and other high era troops. They were fighting like lions. You could feel the adrenaline of the combat. Even my scandiavian mercs drew their swords and joined the fight.

Then the enemy general wanted a piece of my prince who now only had 20 men left. They had a free path to my general. I orderd my prince to counter charge. The cuman heavy cav was not even enough to stop my prince who quickly killed the general. This man is god with a big axe and a danish tongue.

after the first wave was routed only 200 men were left, but 2000 were killed on the cuman side. My men stood tired on top of the mountain when the next wave came. This general was not so foolish and only sended a few troops my way before retreating.

I won!! I could not believe it. 400 veterans in a hostile land far from home actually won.

the remaining 180 went home and the prince died of old age, the cumans had over 2500 casulties and never expaned because the year after the entire regio revolted.

This could never happen in Rome, and could only happen in mtw2 in the very best of times.

My hands are itching, maybe ill install mtw tonight again.

**TheJoker** · April 13, 2007, 09:33 AM

Hahah, I loved the command system that increased valor.

**Hellmut34** · April 20, 2007, 06:33 AM

Well dutchpower, did you re-install?

I did 3 days ago after reading this thread and boy am i a happy bunny!!

I installed the XL2.1 mod as well and all the adrenaline seems to have come back into my total war experience.

Top Drawer!!!!!!!

**Dutchpower** · April 22, 2007, 04:54 AM

As a mather of fact i did! I started a russian campaign with the xl mod!

The horde is kicking my ass though...

**Leonidas The Lion** · April 22, 2007, 12:42 PM

The XL mod is harder than the vanilla campaign.

**Hellmut34** · April 22, 2007, 05:33 PM

Christ im playing as the swedes on normal level (whilst in MTW2 im on VH VH and thrashing it!!) and boy am i having a rough ride.

Kicked out of Finland, took ages to kill the danes and have the French swarming around my saxony border.

Using the Xl mod and Loving the task.

i have stopped playing all the other total war games, and will grind on with this.

**Dutchpower** · April 23, 2007, 01:51 AM

Well i lost my high campaign. Not even 16 6 valor boyars where enough to defend mucovy from the mongolian heavy cav

Ill start as the novgorods on early tonight. Maybe i can at least DEFEND myself that time.

**Hellmut34** · April 23, 2007, 02:30 AM

Originally Posted by Dutchpower

Well i lost my high campaign. Not even 16 6 valor boyars where enough to defend mucovy from the mongolian heavy cav

Ill start as the novgorods on early tonight. Maybe i can at least DEFEND myself that time.

Yes i would, they are the faction that kicked me out of Finland.
They seem to be in a very strong starting position if they sort out the diplomacy side of things early on.
Let us know how it goes, i am interested in using them myself once this debacle is over.

Very soon by the looks of it too

**Axe-Battler** · April 24, 2007, 10:39 PM

you guys kill me, I am dying to play this game again but I can't.

**Dutchpower** · April 25, 2007, 01:54 AM

LOOOOOOOOL. I cant believe it Scotland was killed in 2 turns by the english and some neutral force. Spain was defeated by france in 10. The seljuks are somewhere on rhodes haha its the only place they have left.

Factions are dying all over the place i love it. To bad i keep bieng one of them because the damn teutonic order and the horde keep sandwiching me. But i dont want to play on early because then i have a much to big of advantage. This game on expert starting in the high era is fun as heck!

**Hellmut34** · April 25, 2007, 06:41 AM

"And so say all of us!!"

**Dodge** · April 25, 2007, 12:50 PM

The thing I love in this game is 'faction emerges'!!

I had spain re-emerge in russia once, it was so cool.

**Leonidas The Lion** · April 25, 2007, 01:47 PM

The thing I love in this game is 'faction emerges'!!

That can sometimes get really annoying when you are conquering the world just when you are on the verge of global domination you have faction re-emerge.
Then you have to build up a army and fight again.

**therussian** · April 25, 2007, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by Dutchpower

Well i lost my high campaign. Not even 16 6 valor boyars where enough to defend mucovy from the mongolian heavy cav

Ill start as the novgorods on early tonight. Maybe i can at least DEFEND myself that time.

The trick about the Mongol invasion is to NOT invade Khazar and Volga Bulgaria. Try unifiying the rebel lands first, all the while building up your army. They were a ***** to beat; took me 57 years to totally wipe them out (with the help of the Turks).

Check out my Russian AAR if you want (it's in the Eagle Standard)

Oh, and I agree that while the reemerging thing is pretty cool sometimes, in a lot of games it happens all the damn time and it gets very annoying.

**~~taylorj2~~** · May 09, 2007, 12:11 PM

Not sure if your talking about Shogun or Medieval but:

Yes, the best thing about the game is because it is so unbalanced. People complain about M2TW being unbalanced but it's like, wtf... it is meant to be unbalanced! It's like, why make say say Poland equal to HRE when in real life, HRE was UBER powerful compared to them... the great thing about MTW original is that, if a country is weak then it is destroyed, not boosted by money scripts or given more money to start off with.

**Parky** · June 02, 2007, 04:53 AM

Why did i stop playing MTW?? =D

**therussian** · June 03, 2007, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by Parky

Why did i stop playing MTW?? =D

A question for the ages

**Icefrisco** · June 07, 2007, 07:28 PM

Historically thats not unbalanced. There are hundreds of battles like that(Narva) where only a few soldiers can defeat an entire army.

Thats why I liked mtw it wasnt completely historical but it was realistic.