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    Ест ли кто либо ведий язик церковно-словенский ? Имже отци наша любиша и на нем много писаша !? Аще вси словени до ден сей сего язика в памяти имут и на него глаголати могут,что ест лучше и добрее ?! Поздравления и братское целование !
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    Default Re: Церковно-Словенский ?

    Красивый язык. Это же суть старославянский. Интуитивно понятный, но чтобы глаголить на нём надо учить слова
    Интересно на нём былины старые читать, летописи...


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    Аз буки ведаю добро глаголю иже слово мое твердо.
    Житие мое.
    Кто к нам с чем зачем тот от того и того...



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    May I ask to add the English name of the language in the thread title?
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    Default Re: Церковно-Словенский ?

    Old Church Slavonic.

    It's practically Old Bulgarian, evolved in a slightly different direction, but not by much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivan_the_terrible View Post
    Old Church Slavonic.

    It's practically Old Bulgarian, evolved in a slightly different direction, but not by much.

    how come it's old bulgarian ?

    old church slavonic is being used in orthodox churches,why all churches use it if it's bulgarian ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romanos IV View Post
    May I ask to add the English name of the language in the thread title?
    Done


    You have here some info on Wiki
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Church_Slavonic
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    Quote Originally Posted by il padrino View Post
    how come it's old bulgarian ?

    old church slavonic is being used in orthodox churches,why all churches use it if it's bulgarian ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by il padrino View Post
    how come it's old bulgarian ?

    old church slavonic is being used in orthodox churches,why all churches use it if it's bulgarian ?
    Because it is what Cyril and Methodius used originally.

    Church Slavonic (which is in use today) evolved from it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ivan_the_terrible View Post
    Because it is what Cyril and Methodius used originally.

    Church Slavonic (which is in use today) evolved from it.

    i know that,but as far as i know cyril and methodius were sent by the ER emperor,to help slavs with their new religion.and from their language all slavic languages evolved,not just bulgarian.

    old church slavonic was used as an official language in serbia until the end of the first half of 19. century.


    this is Miroslavljevo Jevandjelje from 12. century i think.it the oldest preserved serbian document.





    and this is a newspaper from 19. century



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    Quote Originally Posted by il padrino View Post
    i know that,but as far as i know cyril and methodius were sent by the ER emperor,to help slavs with their new religion.and from their language all slavic languages evolved,not just bulgarian.
    To help Slavs with creating a new alphabet. The Churches were set up separately, and the official church language was based on old bulgarian.


    old church slavonic was used as an official language in serbia until the end of the first half of 19. century.
    Interesting, I didn't know this!

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    Default Re: Церковно-Словенский (Old Church Slavic)

    old church slavonic was used as an official language in serbia until the end of the first half of 19. century.
    No it wasn't, the language was called Slavjanoserbski ( Slavoserbian ) and it was created in 17-18. century by mixing Serbian and Russian language, to be more precise by introducing Russian words and some aspects of grammar into Serbian language and had nothing to do with old church Slavonic. This strange process took place in the Serbian church in Habsburg empire ( mostly in present day Vojvodina ) due to fact that most of the ecclesiastical and ritual books were imported from Russia cause Austrians didn't allow Serbs to print church books in cyrilic letters, latter educated people and priests found this strange language to be more '' prestigious '' then coloquial or '' people's '' ( narodni ) language and pushed it in official use. Old church Slavonic language was in use in Mediaeval period, 'till 15-16 .century but only in local versions called redactions so the Serbs had Serbian redaction of church Slavonic, Bulgarians had Bulgarian redaction,and there was also Romanian and Russian redactions, each of them differing substantialy from another, actualy differing enough that they could be called Old Serbian, Old Bulgarian and Old Russian.
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    Default Re: Церковно-Словенский (Old Church Slavic)

    i did not know that

    thanks for the info

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