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    Default Re: BROKEN CRESCENT: The Units

    Updated the KoJ and Armenia units.

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    Added the Khwarezm Shah.

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    sory, have Armenian nakharar cavalry horse armor or not?

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    Yes, it looks like they do.

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    Hey, on the first page there is neither these northese in the ghazni section. Have they been dropped? And if so, would they fit in any other faction, as they seem like to good to not use IMO.

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    Default Re: BROKEN CRESCENT: The Units

    Yes, it looks like they do.
    if Nakharars (great feodals) had horse armour, then Georgians monaspa lancers should have too, becouse they both were from same aristocrats points in Georgia and armenia.

    Many historical sources shows that Georgian had havy cavalry, not catafracts, but some type Europena feodals knights, whose the horse have same armour, at Nakharars in that screens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teh.frickin.pope View Post
    Hey, on the first page there is neither these northese in the ghazni section. Have they been dropped? And if so, would they fit in any other faction, as they seem like to good to not use IMO.
    Yeah, I just copy pasted some stuff so I missed those. I'll throw those in soon enough. Thanks


    if Nakharars (great feodals) had horse armour, then Georgians monaspa lancers should have too, becouse they both were from same aristocrats points in Georgia and armenia.

    Many historical sources shows that Georgian had havy cavalry, not catafracts, but some type Europena feodals knights, whose the horse have same armour, at Nakharars in that screens.
    Yes, we will most likely give the Georgian Elite cav some sort similar scale armour mount. So no worries.

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    Kewl, I'm glad, those are some frickin great units.

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    Yes, we will most likely give the Georgian Elite cav some sort similar scale armour mount. So no worries.
    very good

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    Yeah thats right... off course georgia should get a armoured cav... your right they had heavy cavalry. But it was not as heavyily armoured as cataphracts or other souther caucasus heavy cavalry. Those cavalries had more light armour compared to cataphracts, But still in general count as heavy armour.

    Could be made alike an Aspet cavalry but with a light armour on the horse.(in lookings)
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    ur missing MAkuria!!!
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    Are the Kypchaks the same as in their faction thread still?
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    To my knowledge, yes.

    The North Turkos, the Slavs, the Nobles, the Kypchak Elite. No new changes, save for the Anatolian levies also being Steppe Levies.

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    Alright, I'm super stoked to play the Kypchaks, seeing as their pagan I'm really looking forward to the challenge.
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    This is Naffatun sketch. I think it fits moor elite eastren troop than the one in ospry mamluks book



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    Thanks NNNM. We keep forgetting those dastardly Naffatun.

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    There's something I just realized... how you say barracks level 1, 2, 3, 4, etc, and archery range 1, 2, 3, 4, etc, does that mean that these units are only recruited from castles? Because I know how cities only have really one or two unit recruiters, barracks that are all purpose, and officer acadamies for a few elites. So what would cities recruit? It would be kind of dumb if the city of jerusalem itself couldn't recruit jerusalem guard...

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    Historically in this part of the world cities often did a lot of the recruitment, but it would end up being unfair to have this happen and potentially be lopsided, where certain groups can recruit from cities far better than others can.

    Right now cities will be able to recruit levies and Ghulams/Mamluks (From Slave trade - Muslims only of course). I don't think we are set on limiting it to merely those, but we will not make cities be able to be the primary recruitment facility, nor do I think it will really be viable for 1.0 to do specialized recruitment for particular cities.

    The Guard and Knights of Jerusalem are not necessarily knights or guards of Jerusalem specifically, as I see it, and more are the Guards and Knights of the Kingdom of Jerusalem - belonging to the king himself, rather than the nobles or counts. A comparison is found in the Abbasid caliph's guard. It's not as though every guy with it is a caliph, rather, the guard all belongs to the Caliph and he gives them to his generals.

    This might not seem too cool, but the thing to realize is that it makes cities your fragile but valuable gems. They need protection, and can't simply just crank out troops to defend themselves. When I play the Ayyubids, I often have a strong stack in Homs (The castle outside of Damascus) and a limited roster within Damascus, and sally out to attack the besiegers whenever they try and siege Damascus.
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    Default Re: BROKEN CRESCENT: The Units

    Well important cities like Jerusalem will have an AOR resource that will allow extra recruitment from there - like of Jerusalem Guards or the Caliph's Guard.

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    My Mistake.

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