BROKEN CRESCENT: The Campaign

[CelticPagan]

Can't ever have too much coffee...Wheeeeeeeee! How else do you think I stay up so late in the US, Mountain Time, doing my research and driving Caliph Mirage batty?

[Malakbel]

hello guys,


This is my first post in this forums, I hope that I could make a good contribution in here. I think this mod is going to be awesome, and i have a few ideas for it.

I suggest adding the Nizari Ismaili faction, whose religion will be shiite islam. Their position in the map should be scattered as they historically were, two provinces will do, one by the caspian sea with its alamut fortress and the other is masyaf castle in syria. They'll rightfully earn the hashahin unit alone and not shared by other factions, plus giving that faction super spies and assassins to balance out their weak initial position. Hashashin guilds should only appear to allied factions with the Nizaris. Their generals would be the hardest to assissinate, and their leader should claim to be the Imam who's seeking spiritual leadership, and contending with the abbassid caliph for supremacy over the muslim world (Shiite Imamate vs Sunni caliphate).

here is a link about the nizari that might help
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashshashin


I also suggest merging the turkish sultanate and the seljuk turks in one faction as they historically were one and the same kingdom.

[Miraj]

hello guys,


This is my first post in this forums, I hope that I could make a good contribution in here. I think this mod is going to be awesome, and i have a few ideas for it.

I suggest adding the Nizari Ismaili faction, whose religion will be shiite islam. Their position in the map should be scattered as they historically were, two provinces will do, one by the caspian sea with its alamut fortress and the other is masyaf castle in syria. They'll rightfully earn the hashahin unit alone and not shared by other factions, plus giving that faction super spies and assassins to balance out their weak initial position. Hashashin guilds should only appear to allied factions with the Nizaris. Their generals would be the hardest to assissinate, and their leader should claim to be the Imam who's seeking spiritual leadership, and contending with the abbassid caliph for supremacy over the muslim world (Shiite Imamate vs Sunni caliphate).

here is a link about the nizari that might help
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashshashin


I also suggest merging the turkish sultanate and the seljuk turks in one faction as they historically were one and the same kingdom.

Hey Malakbel, thanks for your interest.

The Nizaris were an idea I had for a while. But I decided not too since they were way too much outside the scope of TW gameplay. They units they would have are sketchy. And they weren't really a "power" - more like a series of strongholds - its not like they fielded large armies. They were more like an underground political group than a proper faction. And I had also decide not to include shiism since it really added nothing to gameplay and there would be at the most two shiite factions. But the time scale got moved after the fatimids so the shiites were out and I wasn't going to include shiism for one minor faction like the nizaris.

And I'm afraid that you're not correct about the Seljuk + Turkish Sult idea. By 1175 the Seljuks had completely deteriorated. Most of their "atabegs" were basically independent states. In fact if I was making a completley historically accurate mod there would not be any seljuks at all - they had pretty much broken up by this time. The Turkish Sultanate represents the Rum Turks and then the Osmani turks and had been independent from the Seljuks well before 1175.

[xxax]

How extensive will the scripting be? Like if you start with Saladin you have to take Jerusalem in X turns/years?

The general question would be will the campaign be guided a bit or will it be free for all like vanilla?

Will you implement crusades as triggers (like when taking Jerusalem) or will they stay the way they are now?

Keep up the good work!!!

[Miraj]

How extensive will the scripting be? Like if you start with Saladin you have to take Jerusalem in X turns/years?

The general question would be will the campaign be guided a bit or will it be free for all like vanilla?

Will you implement crusades as triggers (like when taking Jerusalem) or will they stay the way they are now?

Keep up the good work!!!

The players campaign won't be that scripted at all.

Crusades will be scripted, the actual "crusade" funtion won't be there (since no pope). It will be scripted based on game events like Jerusalem or other Crusader cities being taken by the Muslims. However, this might cause weird things like Richard the Lionheart showing up 100 years later than he actually did - so its still being thought about.

[Miraj]

Khwarezm.. the land of the sun and earth. This is the far north of the Broken Crescent map - the rich lands of the silk road.

The river in the distance is the Amu Darya - the Mongol hordes will appear on the other side in a few years...

[CelticPagan]

Khwarezm.. the land of the sun and earth. This is the far north of the Broken Crescent map - the rich lands of the silk road.

The river in the distance is the Amu Darya - the Mongol hordes will appear on the other side in a few years...

[CtrlAltDe1337]

Nice

[Yoda Twin]

Nice Mirage, is Khwarezm going to be desert or Lush grass terrain or a bit of both

[Miraj]

Nice Mirage, is Khwarezm going to be desert or Lush grass terrain or a bit of both

Both. Khawrezm is mostly desert. But there will be mediterenean farmlands in and around the main cities on the Amu Darya river.

[AnthoniusII]

How about adding the city of Philadelphia in west asia minor.It was the last eastern city fallen to ottomans few years before Konstantinoble.A very prosperus city with huge wall structure...

[Miraj]

I will be posting up a regions map soon on a separate thread soon. You can point it out there.

[Beauchamp]

I don't know where to exactly post this, and im too sheepish to start a new thread so here goes:

Throughout most of Islamic history, an essential part to any empire of the Islamic world was controlling the Routes of Pilgrimidge to Makka (Hajj) and by controlling a route to the Silk Road. If a nation like Egypt, for example, can control an ample route to Makka it should be able to have an income bonus for caravans etc. I think the Silk Road should already exist and cities lying on it should naturally have a bonus in trade.

I belive that this should play a factor somehow in the game. It could also work for the Christian factions' pilgrimidge to Jerusalem.

Perhaps it could be included as a "building" or maybe it could be a wonder, like the Silk Road in E.B.

[IrAr]

I think bonuses should be present for different religions as long as they have kept the building, examples: A Muslim faction controls Jerusalem, they get money from Christian Pilgrims and more if the Church of the Resurrection is still standing, on the other hand if a Christian faction controls Mecca, they get money from Muslims on Hajj and even more if the Kaaba is still standing.

[Miraj]

I plan to do this using hidden resources and faction/culture specific buildings. Think of mines, except without the neat 3d models.

[Beauchamp]

I think if christians conquered Makka, the Muslims would not be too happy...but i agree on the pilgrimadge revenue idea for all factions.

[Miraj]

I think if christians conquered Makka, the Muslims would not be too happy...but i agree on the pilgrimadge revenue idea for all factions.

Well these "buildings" will be faction/culture specific. So if a christian conquers mecca and areas linked to it, he won't get to build a "pilgrimage station" building. Same for Muslims if they conquer Jerusalem.

[Beauchamp]

I would agree, except that Al-Quds was a pilgrimidge sight for Muslims, in fact, it is the third holiest place in Islam (Behind Makka and Medina0

[Miraj]

Yeah, true. But its an astronomical difference how many muslims care to go to Jerusalem VS Makkah/Medina.

[Chola_Kingdom]

please make fortress and citadel in high mountains in facts kings built the castles and fortress in mountains isnt it !!
for examples shakespear Magbeth's castle, original "Granada" fortress, rajput king of kings castles, Some Templers fortress
so enemies could only come with one "ways"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edinburgh_Castle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boden_Fortress
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_fort
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imageonjon_Gisors001.jpg