[OLD DEV THREAD] FACTION: The Eastern Roman Empire

**KozaK101** · December 25, 2007, 07:44 AM

are varangians recruited in cities then?

**Ahiga** · December 25, 2007, 08:05 AM

That is probably just from a castle not entirely upgraded, as the Pelekyphoroi Axemen (The Elite Varangians) are recruited from them at the Armoury stage of the barracks (Tier 5). Regular Varangians are mercenaries.

**Tadzreuli** · December 25, 2007, 10:34 AM

fantastic units !!!!! now, Byzantium is my one if them favor faction with Georgia, Armenia and KoJ....

**Basileos** · December 25, 2007, 02:23 PM

wooow!those units are realy cool!nice pict's of a byzantine campaign

**Strelac** · December 25, 2007, 03:15 PM

All unit cards are done using my method of loading and rendering of all units including the mounted units after animations is applied to them. PM me if you want to know how exactly.

they follow the unit pose as standardized by AD, though.

**Keravnos** · December 25, 2007, 03:55 PM

Yet another +rep from me, Strelac.

**~~Miraj~~** · December 26, 2007, 12:36 AM

Originally Posted by Tobolight

Although the ERE roster is perfect in every way. I think that the non-cataphract mounts are a little to similar. I think that they could all use the removal of the purple matt and the final one would look great with some form of barding just for diversity. I know the roster is set in stone as of now but hopefully infuture versions this could be possible.

Edit: Are the peltasti missing a texture on their shield and javelin?

The disgusting purple mats have been changed. Strelac is looking into the peltastai issue.

**Fenix_120** · December 26, 2007, 12:36 AM

Originally Posted by mirage41

The disgusting purple mats have been changed. Strelac is looking into the peltastai issue.

Mirage has spoken, and it is so.

Word to your mom.

**Basileos** · December 26, 2007, 03:19 AM

The Eastern Roman archers have compound bows,so do they have more missile damage and better bows then most other regular bows?

And if you improve armour by building blacksmiths etc will you see a change in armour on the battlefield?

**Ahiga** · December 26, 2007, 03:44 AM

We've not gone with blacksmith upgrades. It won't be possible either to upgrade the stats or to upgrade the appearance. The latter is because we had a choice of lots of shared units that upgrade or lots of unique ones that don't, and it was an obvious decision.

The former is because we never really thought about it, and also as I heard rumors that the upgrades have a lot of nuances to them - an upgrade of leather to mail isn't necessarily going to mean its just +1 armor, but it may involve much more than that...how much is uncertain, and that uncertainty to balance wasn't something we were interested in.

Also regarding the Composite bow - The majority of factions used it. All the Muslims did, the Armenians & georgians & Cumans did, Jerusalem's turkopoles would have. Only Makuria & the Rajputs used non-composite bows - the Longbow. As of yet there's not a real difference between the two

**Basileos** · December 26, 2007, 03:56 AM

ok thanks for the info ahiga

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**gaius valerius** · December 26, 2007, 05:19 AM

does broken crescent actually work with AOR? if so like varangians should be limited to just the constantinople region right? and how will the various native troops be incorporated? since the map doesn't include the most western provinces of the map, will the byzantines have acces to norman, serbian, pecheneg, etc troops? since Alexius I Comnenus they relied heavy on these troops. their native armies were destroyed in the norman wars with rober guiscard so they generally used foreign soldiers. normans were their favourite troops, so they will be recruitable i hope? and as mercs or recruitable? if as merc their should be many many many for thats how it was

**AnthoniusII** · December 26, 2007, 02:23 PM

Reqruiting northmen in the empire!!

The Roman empire did not hired mercenaries just in Constantinople...
Afcourse the most famous mercenary facilities were the etairiai.
But any general as "local" ruler could hire mercenaries...Now days historians know fir sure that there were many cities that had etairiai bases...It is known that Haraald Haadrada didn't join the varangians in the empire's capital but in Fillipoupolis(in today central bulgaria)...Other cities through times that were reqruiting bases for northen warriors were Dyrachion,Bari,Thessalonike and afcource Cherson

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**Keravnos** · December 26, 2007, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by AnthoniusII

Reqruiting northmen in the empire!!

The Roman empire did not hired mercenaries just in Constantinople...
Afcourse the most famous mercenary facilities were the etairiai.
But any general as "local" ruler could hire mercenaries...Now days historians know fir sure that there were many cities that had etairiai bases...It is known that Haraald Haadrada didn't join the varangians in the empire's capital but in Fillipoupolis(in today central bulgaria)...Other cities through times that were reqruiting bases for northen warriors were Dyrachion,Bari,Thessalonike and afcource Cherson

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That is quite right. There are also records of Northmen being recruited as far as Trapezous (Trebizon), thus, it stands to reason that they should be recruitable wherever ERE rules, so long as the Imperial funds allow.

**~~Miraj~~** · December 26, 2007, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by gaius valerius

does broken crescent actually work with AOR? if so like varangians should be limited to just the constantinople region right? and how will the various native troops be incorporated? since the map doesn't include the most western provinces of the map, will the byzantines have acces to norman, serbian, pecheneg, etc troops? since Alexius I Comnenus they relied heavy on these troops. their native armies were destroyed in the norman wars with rober guiscard so they generally used foreign soldiers. normans were their favourite troops, so they will be recruitable i hope? and as mercs or recruitable? if as merc their should be many many many for thats how it was

Slavs/Varangians
Yes, every faction and every unit has its own AOR "range". Varangians will be part of the native roster, so you can recruit them across your AOR range. You can recruit a different varangian merc exclusive to around Constantinople. Also there are "Rus' Mercenaries" which are basically medium slavic swordsmen that are also available to Kypchaks.

European Mercs
Latin Knights are already recruitable by orthodox christian factions throughout the western half of the map. Also the "Kavallaroi" units in the ERE native roster represents descendents of normans and such. Naturally there will be a nice yield of latin knights at Constantinople itself. Also I will set ports on the western half of the map to allow for the recruitment of Italian Crossbowmen and infantry for Byz and Armenia.

"Pechenegs" or Horse Archers
While we have no units that go by that name, there is a high yield of Cuman tribal HAs and Jav cav around constantinople and north in Bulgaria and Rus lands. Also there are Armenian "Auxilia" cav around eastern anatolia that are basically excellent medium HAs that you will come to value very much.

I hope that was a comprehensive answer.