FACTION: The Kingdom of Georgia

[Miraj]

DESCRIPTION

Background information

Medieval Georgia

Kingdom of Georgia at peak of its military dominance, 1184-1225

The Georgian Kingdom reached its zenith in the 12th to early 13th centuries. This period has been widely termed as Georgia's Golden Age or Georgian Renaissance. The revival of the Georgian Kingdom was short-lived however, and the Kingdom was eventually subjugated by the Mongols in 1236. Thereafter, different local rulers fought for their independence from central Georgian rule, until the total disintegration of the Kingdom in the 15th century. Neighbouring kingdoms exploited the situation and from the 16th century, the Persian Empire and the Ottoman Empire subjugated the eastern and western regions of Georgia, respectively.

The rulers of regions which remained partly autonomous organised rebellions on various occasions. Subsequent Persian and Turkish invasions further weakened local kingdoms and regions. As a result of wars against neighbouring countries, the population of Georgia was reduced to 250,000 inhabitants at one point.



Faction Leader Title: Mephet Mephe
Faction Heir Title: Mephe

Start Settlements:
Tbilisi: Castle (Capital)
Kutaisi: Large Town
Telavi: Town

Start Family:
Leader - Giorgi
Heir -


UNITS

Barracks 

Tier 1 Kartlian spearmen



Tier 2 Khevsur warriors



Tier 3 Metsikhovne spearmen



Tier 4 Tadzreuli infantry



Tier 5 Monaspa swordsmen



Range 

Tier 1 Svanian archers



Tier 2 Metsikhovne archers



Tier 3 Monaspa archers



Stables

Tier 1 Georgian horse archers



Tier 2 Kypchak light horse archers



Tier 3 Aznauri cavalry



Tier 4 Eristavi lancers



Tier 4 Monaspa heavy horse archers



Tier 5 Monaspa heavy lancers



Bodyguard

Royal Monaspa's

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SYMBOL AND BANNERS


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NAMES

MALES
Ashot;

Adarnase:

Alexander;

Archil;

Andria;

Amiran;

Avtandil.

Badri;

Basil;

Beka;

Bakar;

Bagrat;

Bidzina;

Baadur;

Constantine.

David;

Demna;

Demeter;

Dachi.

Elguja;

Edisher;

Emzar;

Erekle;

Eprem;

Eqvtime.

Giorgi (George);

Grigol:

Guaram;

Gurgen;

Gubaz.

Iese; 

Ivane;

Ilia.

Kakha;

Kakhaber; 

Kvirike; 

Koba; 

Kaikhosro

Lasha; 

Levan; 

Leonti: 

Liparit.

Mate; 

Mamia;

Mamuka; 

Melkisedek: 

Merab; 

Mirian.

Noshrevan. 

Nukri.

Otar; 

Onise: 

Otia.

Paata;

Petre (Peter); 

Papuna; 

Parsman;

Pridon.

Ramaz; 

Rati; 

Revaz.

Saba; 

Svimon; 

sula; 

sulkhan: 

Shota

Tamaz; 

Teimuraz; 

Tornike;

Tariel.

Vakhtang; 

Varaz; 

Varsken.

Zaal;

Zaza; 

Zakaria; 

Zviad; 

Zurab.

SURNAMES
Bagrationi 
Abazadze,
Korinteli
Makhateli
Gogibashvili
Nasidze
Dazneli
Ratishvili
Zedgenidze
Saakadze
Gamrekeli
Toreli
Orbeli
Bagvashi
Orbeliani
Naratashvili
Kakhaberisdze
Mkhargrdzeli
Abashidze
Dadiani
Gurieli
Dadeshqeliani
Shervashidze
Anchabadze
Chichua
Zurabisshvili
Kachibadze
Argutashvili
Jakheli
Cikhisjvareli
Donauri
Shalikashvili
Machabeli
Kherkheulidze
Amilakhvari
Amirejibi
Avalishvili
Gochasshvili
Mukhraneli
Guramishvili
Tusishvili
Gogorishvili
Sumbatashvili
Davdgiridze
Diasamidze
Kobulisdze
Abuletisdze
Tukhareli
Tsereteli
Mkheidze
Chkeidze
Lortkipanidze
Nijaradze
Iashvili
Tsulukidze
Gelovani
Jafaridze
Inasaradze
Lashkhishvili
Mikeladze
Chijavadze
Leonidze
Makhashvili
Melikishvili
Gurgenidze
Gedevanishvili
Palavandishvili
Kvenaplaveli
Pavlenisshvili
Palava
Cholokhashvili
Irubakidze
Tsitsishvili
Khimshiashvili
Chavchavadze
Jianni
Javakhishvili
Jandieri
Jorjadze


FEMALE
Ana.

Asmat.

Babale;

Baia.

Dali;

Davari;

Darejan

Eter;

Eka;

Eliso

Gvanca.

Ia;

Inga

Irina.

ketevan;

Kato.

Lali:

Lia

Maia;

Manana;

Mariam;

Megi;

Meri;

Natela;

Nazi;

Natia;

Nani;

Nestan;

Nino;

Nuca.

Pati;

Patman.

rusudan

Salome;

sidonia;

Sopio;

Shorena

Tamar;

Tamta:

Tatia;

Teona:

Tinantin;

Tekla.

Vardo.

[JERUSALEM]

not Azurs BUT Aznauri this is correct

yes and do u remember we have agreed

to rename Khevsur warriors into Mandaturi

same thing with Svanian archers we have to rename it from

Svanian archers to Monadire . see our link

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...t=87108&page=8

post#151 and post#153


this is onty to make game historicaly accurate

very good job
and
respect to mirage41

[Beka]

Georgian names and surnames of nobles

Male Names

Ashot;
Adarnase:
Alexander;
Archil;
Andria;
Amiran;
Avtandil.
Badri;
Basil;
Beka;
Bakar;
Bagrat;
Bidzina;
Baadur;
Constantine.
David;
Demna;
Demeter;
Dachi.
Elguja;
Edisher;
Emzar;
Erekle;
Eprem;
Eqvtime.
Giorgi (George);
Grigol:
Guaram;
Gurgen;
Gubaz.
Iese;
Ivane;
Ilia.
Kakha;
Kakhaber;
Kvirike;
Koba;
Kaikhosro
Lasha;
Levan;
Leonti:
Liparit.
Mate;
Mamia;
Mamuka;
Melkisedek:
Merab;
Mirian.
Noshrevan.
Nukri.
Otar;
Onise:
Otia.
Paata;
Petre (Peter);
Papuna;
Parsman;
Pridon.
Ramaz;
Rati;
Revaz.
Saba;
Svimon;
sula;
sulkhan:
Shota
Tamaz;
Teimuraz;
Tornike;
Tariel.
Vakhtang;
Varaz;
Varsken.
Zaal;
Zaza;
Zakaria;
Zviad;
Zurab.


Female Names

Ana.
Asmat.
Babale;
Baia.
Dali;
Davari;
Darejan
Eter;
Eka;
Eliso
Gvanca.
Ia;
Inga
Irina.
ketevan;
Kato.
Lali:
Lia
Maia;
Manana;
Mariam;
Megi;
Meri;
Natela;
Nazi;
Natia;
Nani;
Nestan;
Nino;
Nuca.
Pati;
Patman.
rusudan
Salome;
sidonia;
Sopio;
Shorena
Tamar;
Tamta:
Tatia;
Teona:
Tinantin;
Tekla.
Vardo.


Surnames of Georgian Nobles
A Abazadze, Korinteli, Makhateli, Gogibashvili, Nasidze, Dazneli, Ratishvili, Zedgenidze, Saakadze, Bamrekeli, Toreli, Orbeli, Bagvashi, Orbeliani, Naratashvili, Kakhaberisdze, Mkhargrdzeli, Abashidze, Dadiani, Gurieli, Dadeshqeliani, Sharvashidze, Anchabadze, Chichua, Zurabisshvili, Kachibadze, Argutashvili, Jakheli, Cikhisjvareli, Donauri, Salikashvili, Machabeli, Kherkheulidze, Amilakhvari, Amirejibi, Avalishvili, Gochasshvili, Mukhraneli, Guramishvili, Tusishvili, Gogorishvili, Sumbatashvili, Davdgiridze, Diasamidze, Kobulisdze, Abuletisdze, Tukhareli, Tsereteli, Mkheidze, Chkeidze, Lortkipanidze, Nijaradze, Iashvili, Tsulukidze, Gelovani, Jafaridze, Inasaradze, Lashkhishvili, Mikeladze, Chijavadze, Leonidze, Makhashvili, Melikishvili, Gurgenidze, Gedevanishvili, Palavandishvili, Kvenaplaveli, Pavlenisshvili, Palava, Cholokhashvili, Irubakidze, Tsitsishvili, Khimshiashvili, Chavchavadze, Jianni, Javakhishvili, Jandieri, Jorjadze.

[Tadzreuli]

verry good jot guys , nice to meet you here !

here is some descriptions about Georgian units:

Eristavebi


Eristavi - this is great feudal lord in Georgia in the epoch of feudalism. Saeristavo - indicates the administrative division in Georgia, under the management of appointed as king by eristavi. First ,,Saeristavo”, based with the first king of Kartli (Iberia) – Pharnavaz I. He divided kingdom by administrative neighbourhoods - saeristavo and were placed its there officials assigned, Eristavs. In the antique Iberian (Katlian) kingdom there were only eight saeristavo. When in Georgia the epoch of feudalism came, then king officials - eristavi of steel by strong, rich and influent feudal class, their feudal of about- ancestors it is possible to consider “large aznaur’s”, which managed fortresses. Eristavi, as strong feudal lords had their fortress, the large hereditary earth and the well armed and trained guards. On the convocation of king, with the war, eristavi it must advance to king its guard. Eristavs guards basic there were cavalrymen, is heavy equipment, armament with spear and with sword. Eristav’s cavalrymen excellently trained and veterans of war, are ready to the latter to protect and to war with the enemies the fatherland... and now and then also against the king himself in order to render a service to the political ambitions of its owner – Eristav’s.

Monaspa

Monaspa - elite part of the Georgian army after the reforms of David IV ,,the Builder” (1089-1125). First monaspa composed loyal to king and to the fatherland, cavalrymen from the average and small feudal class, and now and then also from the free people also. Monaspa, as the basic of the impact parts of the army, was subordinated directly only to king and gradually became regular troops, responsibilities were characterized by a high feeling, by steel discipline it is excellent to trained. With the by means of of such regular and accurate military parts, Georgian king successfully fought with the enemies of state both in the inside of the country and far beyond its limits. More lately appeared other regular units of the troops in the Georgian army, on the same to principles as the first cavalrymen Of monaspa, they were monaspa infantry, monaspa archers and monaspa archers cavalrymen.

Svimra (Svanian hunters)

Svimra "(guard) Svans - the autonym of "mushvan" - ethnic group is Georgian, that lives in the unapproachable mountains of west Georgia. These are tower-less and wild soldiers, who do not know fear. Although Christianity already had long ago been taken root among the mountaineers, ancient heathen customs are still very strong among the Svanians clans. The faith in Christ is nearby with the heathen altars, the cult Hittite -Subarian god to Telepinu and terrible Lasharela, the gloomy patron of soldiers, which rushes among the mountains on its horse... Svans the skillful hunters and pathfinders, from the earliest times they composed the impact force of the armies of Colchis, then Lazika-Egrisi and united Georgia. When there is no war, Svans frequently quarrel between themselves, blood vengeance as before acts among the snow-covered mountains of Svaneti. But sometimes Svans forget their quarrels. This occurs, when external enemy attacks in Georgia. In Georgia they indicate that if you send by war on Svaneti, then to you it remains to hope on gentlemen of God, because besides it, you already no one will help!


Kartlian Spearmen

In IV century BC legendary king Parnavaz into Mtskheta called Iberians -kartlians qev for service into the heavy infantry. "Erie", or "people" it went to the war to protect Kartli from the Parthians. Tradition remained, dispatch years, after parthians arrived Romans, Khazary and Hunns, after them Persians and Seljuks, Khorezmian and Mongolians, hordes Timur 8 times invaded Georgia! And the always basic force of Georgian troops was Kartlian Spearmen infantry. These are peasants and small nobles. They love the earth, on which they work and they are ready to protect it to the last drop of the blood! Strong, courageous, equally skillful in the field and in seche, these heavily armed infantrymen overturn enemy by powerful strong pressure of those united it is shield and copies.
Many conquerors saw Georgia, many remained here forever... forever to rot in the Georgian earth!"

Mestikhovne

"Metsikhovne - verbatim indicates" the guard of fortress ", then garrison guard eats. Them in Georgia they used for the strengthening for those seized it was municipal and fortresses. Metsikhovne was equipmented by due to the state, was dressed in the chain-mail armors, it managed well the habits of battle with the spear and shield, and also used bows. Metsikhovne can be used just as linear, combat infantry."

Tadzreuli

,,Tadzreuli, on the Georgian verbatim indicates - "templar". These are soldier, the servant of the holy apostolic church of Georgia. Georgian church as one of the rich classes in XII-XV c. centuries in the Georgian reign, subordinated the big enough number of small nobles – aznaurs, free mens and peasants. The servants of the church of aznaury protected church and faith, correctly served the tsar and the native land. Gradually, in the highly developed feudal society of Georgia, in XII-XIII c. explosives, tadzreuli became military class. To tadzreuli elite infantrymen by the Georgian of army, the knights of the honors, always ready life to return for the faith, the native land and for the tsar. They the well trained and well equipped, very experienced soldiers, strong by spirit, without are sorrowful to the enemies of Georgia and Christianity, but they are virtuous to the simple people, them all love and respect on this, and enemies feel trembling before their persistent view.”



Shubosani molashqre

"These simple Georgians, free people, the civil guardsmen, ready to protect the native land from overseas aggressors. They are dressed in simple clothes from a leather and fabrics, in fight used spear, dagger and round/oval shields."


Khevsur warriors

"Khevsureti - one of the most beautiful high-mountainous region of east Georgia. There during centuries it was created unique culture and originality Khevsurs, Pshavs, Tush’s and other mountain Georgian tribes. One of basic elements of this original culture is systematized military art. Khevsurs, in other as well as other mountaineers, perfect own art of fencing and protection in fight. In Middle Ages Khevurs the pedestrian and horse groups created special divisions in royal army of Georgia. Proud and aggressive Khevsurs, being free and independent from the feudal lords, were often called in bodyguard of the Georgian kings. Khevsurs are dressed beat in a chain armor, it is frequent their headdress from a chain armor closed all person Khevsur warrior. Thus before enemies there was not knowing fear, violent and at times a mysterious soldier without the person which scared to enemies. "


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Beka, Jerusalem,

in future I give moders the other description and finally stats and names of units, I hope you will agree with me ... ! ok ?

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[Tadzreuli]

now I give finaly unit list, names and stats (will NOT revise):

Kingdom of Georgia

religion: ortodox
regions: Tbilisi, Kutatisi, Tskhumi, Ani, Dvin, Shamakha.
short game: hold 15 regions, eliminate factions - …….
long game: hold 45 regions, including – Konstantinople, Jerusalem, Bagdad, Tabriz, Trabizon.
strengths: powerfull regular havy cavalry, strong spearmen and swordsmen infantry
weaknesses: laks late period gunpower

prologue of Georgian faction:

"In 1001 Georgian king Bagrat III Bagrationi united all Georgian principalities - principality of Kakheti, Abkhazian reign, principality Tao-Klardzheti and principality of Kartli into the united reign and to otnine in the Caucasus was formed new predominant power, the strong, centralized feudal state - Kingdom of Georgia. Georgian one of most is ancient of the modern peoples of world, having its statehood from the time of Kingdom of Colchis (from 1200 years BC). In 319 ad to year Georgian became Christianity as state religion. Georgian alphabet one of 14 original alphabet in the world, created in V-III BC.

Most might, power and developments feudal Georgian reign reached in XI-XIII century, under the rule of the royal dinasty of Bagrations, from whom Georgia guided such famous to entire world monarchs, as David IV "the Builder"(r.1089-1125) and quin Tamara the Great (r. 1184-1213).
The might of Georgian Kingdom founded on the great military traditions, developed feodal economic infrastructure of the country into that epoch and certainly wise of the administration of the kings of dynasty Bagrations.

Georgian Kingdom afterward David IV's achievement became so-called Pan-- Caucasian empire, who covered the territories of the entire north Caucasus, Shirvan and Armenia. But the times of tsarina Tamara's administration, to Georgian state it was added Iranian Azerbaijan, sultanate Shah -Armen (Khlat Sulatanate) and Emirate of Erzerum. Kingdom of Georgia stretched from Nikophsia to Daruband and from the northern borders of Osetia to Aregats, from the Black to Caspian Sea. In 1203 army of quin Tamar invided into the Byzantine Empire and took the cityes: Sinope, Kerasunt, Trapizon and entire is the South coast of Black sea, populated in essence by Georgian tribes - Lazians and Chans. on the new occupied lands it was created the vassal of Georgia - Empire of Trabyzond. Tamar the Great planted on the throne of the new state of her cousine Alexius Comnenos, the representative of the famous Comnenian dinasty, rulers of Byzantium, thrown down of the new dynasty of Angels. Alexius was brought up in Georgia with the court of the father of Tamar, King of Kings George III.

The oficial title of Georgian kings was like this: King of Kings of Abkhazians, Kartvels, Ranian, Kakhs and the Armenians, Shirvan-Shah and Shahan-Shah, sovereighn of all west and east, Sword of Mesiah.

Georgians actively fought versus Turks and almost in all battles remove they gained the great victories, one battle alone with Didgori (1121 ad) to that aproved this, when 56 000 Georgians, under komand by David IV "the Builder" broke and destroyed more 100 000 - armies of the Jihad of Seldjuk under komand of the famous general of "Islam" and "defender of faith" to Ortuglu Il-Gazi.

Georgian Apostolic Ortodoxal Church, based by apostles Andrey and by Simeon of Cana, became autocephaly in V century. Besides Georgia, great Georgian religion centers were based in Jerusalem, in Greece, in Cyprus, in Sinaye, in Egypt, in Syria and Palestine.

in XI-XIII centuries in the Georgia were based scientific academy Gelati (in western Georgia) and academy Ikalto (in eastern Georgia). High level reached the development of literature, in particular poetry. in epoch of quin Tamar Georgian poet Shota Rustaveli wrote the masterpiece of world poetry, to poem "Knight in panter skin" .

after "Golden age" , when the Mongols invided in 1242 ad, started decline period for strongets Georgian Kingdom, but mey be you able to return the "Golden Age" for Georgians... "

INFANTRY:

1. Peasants - light, att. 5, deff. 4
2. Shubosani (spearmen militia) - light, att. 6, deff. 10
3. Kartlian spearmen* - medium, att. 8, deff. 16
4. Metsikhovne (Garisson Spearmen)* - havy, att. 10, deff. 18
5. Aznaur’s * - havy, att. 10, deff. 20
6. Dism. Tadzreuli* - medieum, att. 12, deff. 18
7. Dism. Eristav’s* - havy SP. , att. 12, deff. 24
8. Dism. Monaspa* - havy/elite, att. 14, deff. 24
9. Mandatur’s* - havy, att. 18, deff. 16

CAVALRY

1. Tadzreuli * - medium, att. 10, deff. 15
2. Eristavi * - havy lancers, att. 11, deff. 20
3. Monaspa Archers * - havy/elite, att. 9, miss. 12, def. 13
4. Monaspa Lancers * - havy/elite, att. 12, deff. 22
5. General bodyguard (Monaspa lancers) - havy/elite, att. 14, deff. 23

MISSILE INFANTRY

1. Peasant archers - light, att. 3, miss, 4, deff. 3
2. Svanian Hunters * - light, att. 6, miss. 8 , deff. 6
3. Metsikhovne Mshvildosani * (Garisson archers) - medium, att. 8, miss. 9, deff. 11
4. Monaspa dismounted archers * - havy/elite , att. 10, miss. 11, deff. 14



* - national unit

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[JERUSALEM]

u said for Georgia we shell choose those

regions: Tbilisi, Kutatisi, Tskhumi (Sokhumi), Ani, Dvin

i think we should add to this list one more region:

Shamakha (region of Shirvan)

so it will present Georgia with the full of those states

it included in 12(XII)centure

[Tadzreuli]

ok, I agree. UPDATED.

[Tadzreuli]

for banner:

[John I Tzimisces]

About those symbols: Are they correct for this period? I recognize them from Georgia's modern flag...and this mod starts in 1175...

[Tadzreuli]

yes, simbol is more older then 1175 ad, in hidtorycan sources of European travelers and mapers and scolars we found this simbol older the XII c.

on the walls of several Georgian churchs IX c. - XII c. also we found this simbol. also on the coin of quin Tamar the Great (1184-1210).

Jerusalem know more, then I and I hope he give us usefull information about this

[Miraj]

Okay I updated some stuff.

The stats will be done last by the team members who will deal with this area. We will probably use the RealCombat system to determine this. I'm afraid that each ethnic subgroups is supercharging their respective factions - so I need to be wary of this.

Secondly, the descriptions are good but I will have to do major... ummm.. "proofreading" and redrafting to make it easier to read and less "historish".

Thirdly, Georgia will start with only Kutaisi and Tbilisi. Tbilisi will be a fort and Kutaisi a city. Trust me guys, this will be much more fun to seize rebel and seljuk lands and instead of starting with 5 cities. Its frankly a gameplay issue and most faction will start with 2 - 4 cities at most. Smaller factions will start with 2, medium ones with 3 and larger ones with 4.

@ Beka
Could you make those surnames into a proper list. I'd prefer not to waste time pressing 'enter'.

[Tadzreuli]

ok, I think Georgia at this time was medium faction as well and we should added also Ani, becouse from 1124 ad, Ani was under Georgian strong controll. so, 3 province fro Georgia isn't so much , I think

I agree with stats, but only request plz: use for Monaspa Lancers model - Russian Tsars guard, NOT Boyar model, becouse in reality Monaspa was powerfull charging havy cavalry, with horse armour too. Universal soldiers.

[Rex Armeniae]

Actually that symbol that Georgia uses today is an acient cilician symbol, but the colours are changed. It was blue instead of red.

[Tadzreuli]

Actually that symbol that Georgia uses today is an acient cilician symbol, but the colours are changed. It was blue instead of red.

hehe .... I give u a lot of materials and sources, thet proof todeys simbol of Georgia was GEORGIAN simbol from IX c. and u give me some 1 source or historycal materials, thet 5 cross simbol was cilician simbol , ok ?

[Rex Armeniae]

The flag is said to have been used by early Georgian feudal states. A similar flag is shown in the Libro del Conoscimiento de todos los Reinos (XIVth century)for Sivas (Sebasteia). Sebasteia was the capital city of the former Byzantine province of Armenia Prima, and Sivas is today the capital city of the velyat of Sivas, in Cappadocia. The new flag of Georgia doesnt really have to be related with this historical banner.

However, I said something wrong when I said that the exact symbol the georgian flag has today is an ancient cilician symbol. But there actually is a very similiar ancient symbol that has a blue cross with 4 small blue crosses in each corner. Its hard to find sources on it online. I'll see if I can dig something up in some books

edit:* but you can gladly show me where the georgian flag does come from and its history

[Beka]

Surnames of Georgian Nobles
Abazadze,
Korinteli
Makhateli
Gogibashvili
Nasidze
Dazneli
Ratishvili
Zedgenidze
Saakadze
Gamrekeli
Toreli
Orbeli
Bagvashi
Orbeliani
Naratashvili
Kakhaberisdze
Mkhargrdzeli
Abashidze
Dadiani
Gurieli
Dadeshqeliani
Shervashidze
Anchabadze
Chichua
Zurabisshvili
Kachibadze
Argutashvili
Jakheli
Cikhisjvareli
Donauri
Shalikashvili
Machabeli
Kherkheulidze
Amilakhvari
Amirejibi
Avalishvili
Gochasshvili
Mukhraneli
Guramishvili
Tusishvili
Gogorishvili
Sumbatashvili
Davdgiridze
Diasamidze
Kobulisdze
Abuletisdze
Tukhareli
Tsereteli
Mkheidze
Chkeidze
Lortkipanidze
Nijaradze
Iashvili
Tsulukidze
Gelovani
Jafaridze
Inasaradze
Lashkhishvili
Mikeladze
Chijavadze
Leonidze
Makhashvili
Melikishvili
Gurgenidze
Gedevanishvili
Palavandishvili
Kvenaplaveli
Pavlenisshvili
Palava
Cholokhashvili
Irubakidze
Tsitsishvili
Khimshiashvili
Chavchavadze
Jianni
Javakhishvili
Jandieri
Jorjadze


as For Tbilisi rename it into Tpilisi and make it a huge castle if not a city

Imedia qartvelebi dametanxmebit tbilistan dakavshirebit

[Tadzreuli]

political situation for 1175 ad.

Royal dinasty : Bagrationi


King - George III Bagrationi (*******) (r. 1156-1184) Bagrationi, age 50

title: : King of Kings of Abkhazian, Kartvels, Ranians, Kakh's and the Armenians, Shirvan-Shah and Shah-An-Shah, the Lord of all east and west, Sword of Mesiah.

wife/ quin - Burdukhan, age 45.

princess - Tamar Bagrationi, age 9.

Generals:

1. Demna Bagrationi - age 20 ("of Georgian blood", son of brother of George III, cousine of Tamar) (*)
2. Ioane Mkhargrdzeli, age 26 (*)
3. Zakharia Mkhargrdzeli, age 24 (**)
4. Ioane Orbeli (rebelius), age 59. (******)
5. David Soslani-Bagrationi, age 18. (***)


* - General stars

[Beka]

In year 1175 Tamar was 9 years old.

[Tadzreuli]

tanks, Beka, ... Updeited my post.

[AlphaDelta]

Originally Posted by Tadzreuli
amazing unit !!!

but... I have several request:

1. for all Georgian shield also use st. George and others Georgian simbols from here:
http://www.conflicts.rem33.com/image...geor_heral.htm
http://www.conflicts.rem33.com/image...geor_nobil.htm

by this Georgian shields will be more colorfull, then with only 5 crosses simbols

Are these symbols accurate for the time? I've had three different people tell me three different things about the Georgian symbols. I am wary to change a set of shields unless you are sure that these should be present. Also bare in mind that many of the Georgian units are using kite or round shields with a big metal boss that sets in the center, this limits the use of such symbols.

2. for Monaspa lancers use from Vannilla - Russian Tsars Guard model ! this my request is optionally , plz ! if we want make historycal right model, Georgian havy cavalry alweys use horse armor and Tsars Guard model is same Georgian Monaspa cavalry... ! PLZ !!!

The Monaspa lancer unit is using the Tsars guard model already. Do you mean the unit, or the mount (horse)? I can change the mount no problem, but do we really want a super-heavily armoured cavalry mount like this? Or something a little lighter?

3. from Metsikhovne's shields cut the Cilician Armenian simbol - red lion with cross and put here st. George simbol ! this is also optional reques

This was fixed long ago, but I think I didnt post a screenshot of the change.

Thanks again Tadzreuli, your information has been second to none.

Cheers