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    Excellent informative thread. Nice rare pics.

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    Abbassid general


    the caliph's body guard
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    Excellent. The bodyguard is Almoravid (Murabitun) ?
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    Faction leader title=khalifa amir mu'menen (caliph commander of the believers).
    main cities:
    baghdad the capital found by the caliph abu jafar al mansur in 762AD,on the west bank of the tigris.
    samara; Built by caliph al mutasim in 836AD and was the seat of the caliphate till the reign of caliph al mutadid.
    albasra:was the south gate of the abbasid caliphate,the main port.
    kufa: minor city but very important many imams,ulamas came from this city
    wasit was an important city in south east of iraq.
    new offices:
    the caliph's vizier (and here's real viziers from that time like ''Ali ibn hobayra,mohamed ibn Alqami the last vizier of the last caliph al mustastim'')
    qadi al quda (grand qadi)parrel to the patriach of constaninople,cardianls.
    commander of the army
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    caliph An-Nasir

    AHMAD an nasir li-Din Allah bin AL HASSAN al mustadi (1158 - 1225) (Arabic: الناصر لدين الله) was the 34th Abbasid Caliph in Baghdad from 1180 to 1225. His pious title means Defender of the Faith. He attempted to restore the Caliphate to its ancient dominant role. He not only held the Capital in strength, but extended his dominion into Mesopotamia and Persia. He reigned from 1180–1225, and is considered the last strong 'Abbasid caliph before the destruction of the dynasty by the Mongols


    [edit] Events During his Caliphate

    In the early years of his caliphate, his goal was to crush the Seljuk power and replace it with his own. He incited rebellion against the Seljuk Sultan. The Khwarizm Shah, Tekish, at his instigation, attacked the Seljuk forces, and defeated them. Tekish, recognized now as supreme ruler of the East, bestowed on the Caliph certain provinces of Persia that had been held by the Seljuks.

    An-Nasir sent his vizier to Tekish with some gifts, but the imprudent vizier so irritated the hot-tempered Tekish, that Tekish attacked the Caliph's troops and routed them,the khwarmids wanted to rule iraq and depose an-nasir and install a new puppit caliph. Thereafter hostile relations prevailed for many years. The Caliph assassinated a governor of Tekish by using an Ismaili emissary. Tekish responded by having the body of an-Nasir's vizier(Ibn qasab), who died on a campaign against him, exhumed, and the head stuck up at Khwarizm. Irritated at this and other hostile acts, the Caliph retaliated by treating with indignity the pilgrims who came from the East under Khwarizm's flag. But beyond such poor revenge, he was powerless for any open enmity.

    Tekish's son, Muhammad II of Khwarezm, annoyed at the actions of the Caliph, set up a Shi'a caliph to paralyse an-Nasir's spiritual power. Following up this act, he turned his army on Baghdad. In response, an-Nasir appealed to Genghis Khan, the rising Mongol chief, to check Muhammad's progress, but it was too late: Muhammad had already taken Eastern Iraq. But before he could invade Baghdad, the weather forced him to return to Khorasan.

    The caliph soon found his diplomacy bearing evil fruit. The steppes of Central Asia were set in motion by Genghiz Khan, and his hordes put to flight the Khwarizm Shah, who died an exile in an island of the Caspian. Meanwhile Saladin, when hard pressed by the Crusaders, appealed for help to an-Nasir, who, caring for little beyond his own aggrandizement, contented himself with sending a store of naphtha, with men to use it against the invaders in the field.

    Besides his occasional conquests, he held Iraq from Tikrit to the Gulf without interruption. He is described as having been an oppressive ruler. There are instances, however, in which when appealed to, he interposed in favor of the weaker party — though partly from the fear of too powerful antagonists. His long reign of forty-seven years is chiefly marked by ambitious and corrupt dealings with the Tartar chiefs, and by his hazardous invocation of the Mongols, which so soon brought his own dynasty to an end. But in his day, there was comparative peace at Baghdad; learning flourished; schools and libraries were promoted; while refuges for the poor, and other works of public interest, were encouraged.

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    Default abbasid male and Female,titles names.

    male names of the abbassids

    Muhamed
    Ali
    abduallah
    Ahmed
    Abbas
    Harun
    Talha
    Musa
    Ayoub
    Jaafar
    Umar
    Waleed
    Sulayman
    Abu bakr
    Abdulrahman
    Hassan
    Hussien
    Ibrahim
    Yusuf
    zeyad
    Taher
    Saleh
    Nassef
    Hamza
    Ishaq
    Mansur
    Nasr
    Zeyad
    Ismael
    Zeyad
    yahya
    saed
    Zubayr
    Musa
    Abu bakr
    fadl
    zuhayr
    qassem
    mundher
    Radwan
    hesham.
    saad
    Haytham
    qotham
    Mustafa
    sayedin
    hussam e-din
    mubarakshah
    jalaldin
    Thabet
    Wasel
    Mahmoud
    sahl
    Usama
    zayd
    yazid
    dawod
    ubayd allah
    mu'ez
    abdel karem
    Nezar
    abdel ber
    selim
    Abdel ghafaR
    Massoud
    Abdel qader
    Abdel haq
    Abdel latif
    Muzafar
    Yunes
    Suhayl
    Abdel rahem
    Amr
    Khalil
    Anas
    Safwan
    Malek
    Belal
    Huzafa
    Maslama
    Jawhar
    Idris
    beshr
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    Default Re: abbasid male and Female,titles names.

    female names

    Zubayda (harun al rashed's wife)
    Fatema
    Mariam
    Aisha
    zumorod
    Sukayna
    Zaynab
    Ruqaya
    Asmaa
    Jumana
    Khadeja
    Walada
    Abbasa (harun al rashid's sister)
    Arwa
    etemad
    thuraya
    Khayzuran (al rashid's mother)
    set el mulk
    Khatun
    Hend
    Marajel (caliph mamun's mother)
    Safeya
    Amena
    Yassmine
    Arwa
    Suhayla
    Ateka
    buran (al mamun's wife)
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    Default Re: abbasid male and Female,titles names.

    every abbasid caliph had a title beside his first name and his surname
    forexample caliph ''al mutawakel alallah'' his name is jaafar bin(son of) muhamed.
    but when he became a caliph he choosed this title ''al mutawakel alallah'' which means jaafar who always trust god.
    every abbasids caliph was expected to choose a title its the same like popes of rome who choose new latin titles
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    Default Re: abbasid male and Female,titles names.

    Caliphes may choose their titles (royal names) from this menu:

    * As-Saffah
    * Al-Mansur
    * Al-Mahdi
    * Al-Hadi
    * Harun al-Rashid
    * Al-Amin
    * Al-Ma'mun
    * Al-Mu'tasim
    * Al-Wathiq
    * Al-Mutawakkil
    * Al-Muntasir
    * Al-Musta'in
    * Al-Mu'tazz
    * Al-Muhtadi
    * Al-Mu'tamid
    * Al-Mu'tadid
    * Al-Muktafi
    * Al-Muqtadir
    * Al-Qahir
    * Ar-Radi
    * Al-Muttaqi
    * Al-Mustakfi
    * Al-Muti
    * At-Ta'i
    * Al-Qadir
    * Al-Qa'im
    * Al-Muqtadi
    * Al-Mustazhir
    * Al-Mustarshid
    * Ar-Rashid
    * Al-Muqtafi
    * Al-Mustanjid
    * Al-Mustadi
    * An-Nasir
    * Az-Zahir
    * Al-Mustansir
    * Al-Musta'sim
    al-Musta'lī bi-llāh
    al-Āmir bi-Ahkam allah
    Al zafir
    al-Fā'iz
    al-Adid.
    al hakem biamr allah.
    Al mstamsek bellah

    so if the caliph's birth name is forexample muhamed would be almtasem bellah muhamed.

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    Default Re: abbasid male and Female,titles names.

    Surnames,family names

    Ibn jawzey.
    Ibn qasab (caliph nasir's vizier)
    Ibn radwan.
    Ibn alam.
    Ibn el hafez.
    Ibn Hubayra (caliph mustanjed's vizier)
    Ibn huzayl.
    Ibn umar
    Ibn taher.
    Ibn rushd.
    Ibn ahmed
    Ibn sho'ayeb
    Ibn nasr.
    Ibn wasel
    Ibn nuqta.
    Ibn rumi
    Ibn luhaya.
    Ibn arabi
    Ibn betar
    Ibn adham.
    Ibn tahman.
    Ibn ali.
    Ibn muhamed
    Ibn muslim.
    Ibn malek
    Ibn hanbal
    Ibn ishaq
    Ibn daya
    Ibn maja
    Ibn sahl.
    Ibn zenky
    Ibn ammar
    Ibn yusuf
    Ibn yahya
    Ibn salam
    Ibn ahnaf
    Ibn jawhar.
    Ibn alqamy (the last vizier of the last caliph)
    Ibn muqla
    Ibn ateya
    Ibn hatem
    Ibn mughera
    Ibn hammad
    Ibn jarir(famous poet)
    Ibn durayd
    Ibn nadeem
    Ibn naftaweh.
    Ibn mujahed
    Ibn hayan
    Ibn hadad
    Ibn abbad
    Ibn Abbas

    Al khurasani (of khurasan)
    al tusy (of tus)
    al baghdady (of baghdad)
    al anbari (of anbar)
    al farsy (persian)
    al basri (of basra)
    al mousely (of mousel)
    al koufi (of kuffa)
    al karkhy (of kharkh)
    al masry (of egypt)
    al hamawy (of hammah)
    al ghazaly (was a Muslim theologian, jurist, philosopher)
    al mutanaby (was a famous poet)

    to be continued

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    Default Re: abbasid male and Female,titles names.

    Well I'll be the first to say: good work and keep it up!.

    So these names and title are specific to Abbasids and not generally Arab names and titles ?
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    Default Re: abbasid male and Female,titles names.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sinan View Post
    Well I'll be the first to say: good work and keep it up!.

    So these names and title are specific to Abbasids and not generally Arab names and titles ?
    yes man all these names date back to the time of the abbassids,I checked many arabic historical books and gathered these names
    books like (the complete history by asad din Ibn el atheer died 1236Ad in iraq)

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    Default Re: abbasid male and Female,titles names.

    Right, if I understand correctly now, these names are of ACTUAL Abbasid family members. Impressive.
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    Default Re: abbasid male and Female,titles names.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sinan View Post
    Well I'll be the first to say: good work and keep it up!.

    So these names and title are specific to Abbasids and not generally Arab names and titles ?
    no man only royal names like(almutawakel,almutasem,an nasir.....) are specific only to the caliphs and crown prince.but the rest of the names like(mohamed,ahmed,abu mulim,basri) are general names for arab,muslim commoners.

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    Since the Abbasids are the only faction with the title of Caliph, should their faction leader, or faction in general, have an extra public order bonus? I mean, the Muslim populations in general did feel happier being under the rule of the Caliph moreso than a secular sultan or bey. It'll make the title Caliph something to actually enjoy and notice instead of it being one of the many substitutes for 'King' like in vanilla M2TW. (Grand Duke, Duke, Emperor, Sultan, etc. No difference in any of these titles).

    I think, to reflect the religious aspects of the Medieval Muslim people, a public order bonus to the Abbasid Caliphate faction is in order.

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    Default Re: FACTION: The Abbasid Caliphate

    Hey Sher Khan,

    I was planning on making a the Caliph title a "ancilliary" that can be gained or lost among muslim factions + all the effects you mentioned.

    Any thoughts?

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    Is it possible to only have that title be given to one, maybe two, generals in the entire game? If any muslim faction could attain the caliph title, how would he be chosen? The general with the highest stats in the map? Or a title that comes and goes with being the largest faction territory wise?


    Also, I think it'd be best to make the Abbasids have a permanent caliph title and bonus, making them unique in a way. There can be another caliph that gains that title somehow, but I think it'd be silly to have an Abbasid Caliphate faction without a Caliph as its head. Their caliphate, of course, was hereditary at times, so it would stay within their faction.

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    Default Re: FACTION: The Abbasid Caliphate

    I can give the caliph faction leader a permanent caliph "traits". Sure.

    My idea of the Caliph "title" (ie ancilliary) is this:

    - It starts with An Nasir the Abbasid faction leader
    - Other Muslim factions can get the title by killing the Caliph
    - Only the Faction leader get the title and it stays for life
    - Its passed down to the heir

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    Default Re: FACTION: The Abbasid Caliphate

    Wouldnt that be more like a title?
    I know for example that Al-Qahira had a Caliph and he submitted under Saladin's rule, he ruled only in name, but mainly acted as a symbol of a religious leadership. The Wazirs, Qadis, Amirs, and Ulama held more power then he did after the initiall fall of the Caliph in Baghdad.
    Also, not to be a stickler, its "Al-Nasir"

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    If that's moddable, than I say go for it. As long as you don't have 15 people running around calling themselves Caliph at one time, lol.

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