SICILIAN Character Names

[deRougemont]

Faction: Sicily
Status: Complete
Number of Names: ~300
Authors: SICILIANVESPERS & BLACK FRANCIS

To view the custom names list developed for Sicily, click on "show" below:

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;;;file modified by SICILIANVESPERS & BLACK FRANCIS

faction: sicily

characters
Ademaro
Alberto
Alfonso
Andrea
Anselmo
Antonio
Antonio
Atenolfo
Bartolomeo
Bernardo
Boemundo
Corrado
Corrado
Drogo
Enrico
Enrico
Ercole
Ermanno
Ettore
Federico
Ferrante
Filippo
Francesco
Gaspare
Gherardo
Giacomo
Giordano
Giorgio
Giosue
Giovanni
Gisulfo
Giuffre
Giulio
Goffredo
Gregorio
Guaimario
Gualtiero
Guglielmo
Guido
Landolfo
Lamberto
Lorenzo
Manfredi
Martino
Matteo
Niccolo
Orlando
Pandolfo
Paolo
Pietro
Raimondo
Rainaldo
Rainulfo
Roberto
Romano
Romoaldo
Ruggero
Ruggiero
Serlo
Simone
Tancredi
Teobaldo
Ubaldo
Ubertino
Uberto
Umfredo

surnames
Abbate
Aleramici
Antiochia
Barba
Branciforte
Capece
Castellano
Catalano
Chiaromonte
Chiaromonte
Chiaromonte
Chiaromonte
Chiaromonte
d_Alago
d_Alagona
d_Aragona
d_Argo
de Svevia
di Lampedusa
di Palermo
Doria
Doria
Doria
Doria
Doria
Drengotto
Filangieri
Graffeo
Lancia
Lentini
Lombardo
Maniscalco
Manna
Marino
Marino
Marino
Marino
Marino
Moncada
Moncada
Moncada
Moncada
Moncada
Montalbano
Mosca
Navarra
Offamilio
Pancaldo
Peralta
Peralta
Peralta
Peralta
Peralta
Rocca
Sciacca
Siracusa
Spinola
Spinola
Spinola
Spinola
Spinola
Stagno
Tagliavia
Tavelli
Trincanocte
Vallano
Ventimiglia
Ventimiglia
Ventimiglia
Ventimiglia
Ventimiglia
;;;locative bynames
Braccia-de-ferro
d_Acerenza
d_Acerra
d_Aci
d_Aidone
d_Ajello
d_Alago
d_Alagona
d_Alife
d_Altavilla
d_Ancona
d_Andria
d_Apulia
d_Aragona
d_Argo
d_Ariano
d_Ascoli
d_Avellino
d_Aversa
d_Eboli
d_Enna
d_Epiro
d_Iato
d_Iesi
d_Irno
d_Isernia
d_Olevano
d_Oria
d_Ottaviano
de Bagnara
de Balvano
de Bari
de Bassunvilla
de Battalaro
de Biccari
de Bisaccia
de Bisceglie
de Bisignano
de Bitonto
de Bova
de Brindisi
de Buonalbergo
de Caccamo
de Caiazzo
de Calabria
de Calatrasi
de Caltagirone
de Campolieto
de Canne
de Canosa
de Capaccio
de Capitanate
de Capizzi
de Capua
de Casamari
de Casauria
de Catania
de Catanzaro
de Civitate
de Comino
de Conversano
de Conza
de Corato
de Corleone
de Corleto
de Ferentino
de Fiore
de Flumeri
de Gaeta
de Galluccio
de Gerace
de Gesualdo
de Giovinazzo
de Gravina
de Laino
de Larino
de Lecce
de Lentini
de Lesina
de Licata
de Loreto
de Loritello
de Malta
de Mandra
de Marsala
de Massafra
de Mazara
de Melfi
de Mesagne
de Messina
de Mignano
de Mileto
de Minervino
de Minori
de Misilmeri
de Modugno
de Mohac
de Molfetta
de Monopoli
de Monreale
de Monte Gargano
de Monte Marano
de Monte Sant_Angelo
de Montefusco
de Montepeloso
de Montescaglioso
de Morcone
de Mottola
de Muxaro
de Napoli
de Nicotera
de Nocera
de Normandia
de Noto
de Paduli
de Palermo
de Petralia
de Policastro
de Puliano
de Ragusa
de Rupecanina
de Salerno
de Sarno
de Savona
de Sessa
de Sicignano
de Sinagra
de Siponto
de Siracusa
de Sorrento
de Stridula
de Tagliacozzo
de Taormina
de Taranto
de Taverna
de Telese
de Teramo
de Toritto
de Trani
de Tricala
de Troia
de Troina
de Valenzano
de Venosa
de Veroli
de Vieste
di Girgenti
ie Buono
il Malo

women
Adelaisa
Agata
Agnese
Alaine
Alberada
Alicia
Altruda
Anna
Beatrice
Bianca
Carlotta
Caterina
Clementia
Constanza
Elena
Elisabetta
Elvira
Emma
Eremburga
Felicia
Filippa
Flandina
Fressenda
Gaitelgrima
Gemma
Giovanna
Giuditta
Guida
Iolanda
Irene
Isabella
Judith
Leonora
Margherita
Maria
Matilda
Melisende
Muriella
Sibilla
Sichelgaita
Teodora
Violante

Suggestions for improvement are welcome; post below...

[Black Francis]

At long last it is done.

A whole new list.

This list represents the Kingdom established by the Norman Hauteville dynasty in Southern Italy and Sicily. It does not include the later eras after it was inherited by the Hohenstaufen dynasty and effectively lost its independence in the 1190s.

This has required starting from scratch as the vanilla names for Sicily were totally wrong and were generic "Italian" names. I ended up spending quite a bit of money (around £80) on out of print books: John Julius Norwich "The Normans in the South" and The Kingdom in the Sun". Both of which are superb books worth every penny.

The Kingdom of Sicily is largely forgotten and yet remains a shining example of tolerance between Latin Catholic, Orthodox, Muslim, Norman, Greek, or Lombard that resulted in an unprecedented flourishing of a unique and rich culture and one of the wealthiest and influential kingdoms of the medieval period.

My thanks to Rouge for his patience.

You may find yourself looking through the list and thinking it doesn't "fit" together at first glance. There are names of Lombard/Germanic, Norman, French, Latin and Greek origin. These were all names of people who were in some way part of the Kingdom of Sicily. Be they Lombards or Greeks who married into or became officers of the Kingdom, Holy men with Latin names (even an Octavian in there!) they all existed historically and are appropriate. This was after all one of the most culturally mixed Kingdoms of the age.

There are few family names as there were only a handful of powerful families in this short lived kingdom and most people went by the place they were from. I would encourage Rouge to experiment with putting in multiples of surnames such as Hauteville or Tuboef and forenames such as Robert, Tancred, Bohemond, Baldwin, Roger and William.

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faction: sicily

characters
Abelard
Adelard
Adam
Adenulf
Aimee
Alan
Alain
Alard
Alberad
Alberic
Alduin
Alexander
Amaury
Andrew
Anselm
Arnald
Asclettin
Aubrey
Avenel
Baldwin
Baldric
Balian
Bartholomew
Berard
Bernard
Bertrand
Boniface
Bohemond
Charles
Drogo
Edmund
Edward
Elias
Falco
Francis
Fulk
Gaimar
Gauthier
Geoffrey
George
Gerard
Gervase
Gieffroy
Gilbert
Giles
Girard
Gisulf
Godfrey
Grimoald
Guaimar
Guido
Guy
Henry
Herbert
Herman
Hubert
Hugh
Hugo
Humphrey
James
Jean
John
Jonathan
Jordan
Joscelin
Lanfrank
Maio
Marc
Martin
Matthew
Mauger
Michael
Miles
Nicholas
Norman
Obert
Odo
Octavian
Osmond
Paul
Peter
Philippe
Quentin
Ralph
Rainulf
Raymond
Raynald
Richard
Robert
Roger
Rollo
Romuald
Rudolph
Serlo
Silvester
Simon
Stephen
Tancred
Tebald
Thomas
Tristan
Urso
Walter
William
Vincent

surnames
Anfray
Altavilla
Arundel
Ascelin
Aumont
Bertram
Bonnell
Borsa
Bosso
Burnouf
Bursell
Buxell
Carpenel
Courtenay
Crepin
Crispin
Del Vasto
Drengot
du Perche
Erard
Fallamonica
Fergant
Gerland
Giffard
Godefroy
Gonfroy
Gounouf
Grenier
Guernon
Guiscard
Hauteville
Havard
Molyneux
Morello
Onfroy
Painel
Palmer
Peche
Pevrel
Rainfroy
Rames
Renouf
Repostel
Ridel
Rioult
Scalio
Taillefer
Tuboeuf

;;bynames
Bras-de-fer
d_Acerenza
d_Acerra
d_Aci
d_Agrigento
d_Aidone
d_Alife
d_Ajello
d_Alencon
d_Altavilla
d_Andria
d_Ancona
d_Apulia
d_Ariano
d_Ascoli
d_Avellino
d_Aversa
de Bagnara
de Balvano
de Bari
de Bassunvilla
de Battalaro
de Biccari
de Bisaccia
de Bisceglie
de Bisignano
de Bitonto
de Bova
de Brienne
de Brindisi
de Buonalbergo
de Caccamo
de Caiazzo
de Calabria
de Calatrasi
de Caltagirone
de Campolieto
de Canne
de Canosa
de Capaccio
de Capitanate
de Capizzi
de Capua
de Carreaux
de Casamari
de Casauria
de Catania
de Catanzaro
de Chartres
de Civitate
de Comino
de Conversano
de Conza
de Corato
de Corleone
de Corleto
de Eboli
de Enna
de Epirus
de Ferentino
de Fiore
de Flumeri
de Gaeta
de Galluccio
de Gerace
de Gesualdo
de Giovinazzo
de Gravina
de Hauteville
de Iato
de Iesi
de Irno
de Isernia
de Laino
de Larino
de Lecce
de Lentini
de Lesina
de Licata
de Loreto
de Loritello
de Malta
de Mandra
de Marsala
de Massafra
de Mazara
de Melfi
de Mesagne
de Messina
de Mignano
de Mileto
de Minervino
de Minori
de Misilmeri
de Moac
de Modugno
de Molfetta
de Monopoli
de Monreale
de Monte Gargano
de Monte Marano
de Monte Sant'Angelo
de Montefusco
de Montescaglioso
de Montepeloso
de Morcone
de Mottola
de Napoli
de Nicotera
de Nocera
de Normandy
de Noto
de Olevano
de Oria
de Ottaviano
de Paduli
de Palermo
de Petralia
de Policastro
de Puliano
de Ragusa
de Rethel
de Rouen
de Rupecanina
de Salerno
de Sarno
de Savona
de Say
de Sessa
de Sicignano
de Sinagra
de Siponto
de Sorrento
de Stridula
de Syracuse
de Tagliacozzo
de Taormina
de Taranto
de Taverna
de Telese
de Teramo
de Toritto
de Trani
de Tricala
de Trinacria
de Troia
de Troina
de Valenzano
de Venosa
de Veroli
de Vieste
le Bastard
le Blond
le Bon
le Brun
le Breton
le Chevalier
le Lombard
le Mal
le Sire
Trincanocte

women
Adelaide
Adelisa
Agata
Agnes
Alaine
Alberada
Alice
Altrude
Anais
Anna
Anne
Aubrée
Beatrice
Beatrix
Blanche
Catherine
Charlotte
Clementia
Constance
Constanze
Elizabeth
Elvira
Emma
Eremburga
Felicia
Flandina
Fressenda
Gaitelgrima
Gemma
Guida
Helena
Helene
Heria
Hodierna
Irene
Isabel
Isabella
Joanna
Judith
Katherine
Mabilla
Margaret
Maria
Marie
Mathilda
Maximilla
Melisende
Muriel
Philippa
Sibyl
Sibylla
Sichelgaita
Theodora
Violante
Yolande


EDIT: 10 MOST POPULAR NAMES.

Baldwin
Bohemond
Geoffrey
Jordan
Richard
Robert
Roger
Simon
Tancred
William

[deRougemont]

It looks great Black Francis! I feel like you've just birthed a child, lol. One question so far: can I assume from your list that that were very few non-"de" surnames in use in Sicily? Maybe perhaps because the Sicilian expedition was largely an operation of the nobility?

Anyway, I'm quite excited to have these names, thanks a lot!

[Black Francis]

Glad you are happy with it.

Most people were simply titled "of somewhere", usually wherever they were from or where they were lords of (if noble). It wasn't necessarily an honorary title. All I have dome is used "de" as "of" just like their Frankish cousins did.

[deRougemont]

Alright, I've finished making up the .txt fragments for Sicily. Tested them by starting a campaign and it started up ok. They're attached to the first post in this thread and are good to go!

[Averroës]

Very nice.

One question. Is the surname Bras-de-Fer correct? Shouldn't it be Bras_de_Fer in some places? As in {Bras_de_Fer}Bras-de-Fer instead of {Bras-de-Fer}Bras-de-Fer?

[deRougemont]

Very nice.

One question. Is the surname Bras-de-Fer correct? Shouldn't it be Bras_de_Fer in some places? As in {Bras_de_Fer}Bras-de-Fer instead of {Bras-de-Fer}Bras-de-Fer?

Honestly I'm not sure yet, though I think you are right. However, I noticed this too last night and changed it to _ _ _ between the {} just to make sure. Also, for some reason when I added these names to the master lists it caused a problem which I'm still searching for. So I will reattach these names once I find the error... strange, it worked fine when I added just the new sicilian names to the vanilla files. But there are so many ways to make a mistake doing this.

[SicilianVespers]

This list is commendable, but I do think you missed a major element in the list. The "Normanni" of Sicily included a very prominent Lombard element. Since Adelasia del Vasto was a Ligurian from Northern Italy, The Lombards from this area were very important in Sicily. You can find many of the great Genoese clans represented in Sicily at this time. Like the Doria, Spinola, and my own Marino family. The Ventimiglia were also Ligurian.

Also many of the Norman names were quickly Italianized. Like the Clermont, that became the great Sicilian family of Chiaromonte.

I have many Sicilian resources at my disposal, including feudal registries, and can provide some input if that is ok?

[deRougemont]

I have many Sicilian resources at my disposal, including feudal registries, and can provide some input if that is ok?

Absolutely, post anything you can that will help us improve the lists. Your sources are always important though, let us know where your names/information are coming from. We're more likely to change a list when we know exactly where you are coming from with suggestions.

[Black Francis]

This list is commendable, but I do think you missed a major element in the list. The "Normanni" of Sicily included a very prominent Lombard element. Since Adelasia del Vasto was a Ligurian from Northern Italy, The Lombards from this area were very important in Sicily. You can find many of the great Genoese clans represented in Sicily at this time. Like the Doria, Spinola, and my own Marino family. The Ventimiglia were also Ligurian.

Also many of the Norman names were quickly Italianized. Like the Clermont, that became the great Sicilian family of Chiaromonte.

I have many Sicilian resources at my disposal, including feudal registries, and can provide some input if that is ok?

All suggestions are welcome. I am somewhat limited by whatever literature on the subject I can obtain in English (which is only a few books).

A couple of things need to be kept in mind though. The names in this list and the Sicilian faction as a whole reflect the Norman Kingdom of Sicily which lasted until 1194 as an truly independent faction (before it was inherited by the Holy Roman Emperor). The names I used kept to this period alone. After this period the Kingdom of Sicily was simply a possession that was squabbled over by a multitude of European powers up until the modern era. I decided that I would not include names from this later period as the independent faction represented in the game and the Norman Kingdom of Sicily was effectively over.

I would say that if you can turn up more names for Sicily that do not extend beyond 1194 then this is fine but I would not be in favour of including names from later dates.

As for putting the names in an Italian form this is a very interesting proposal. The list needs to be put into a language form other than its current Anglo-Latin, and I guess this would have to be either be Italian or French.

HOWEVER! If we are going to start adding names that are in an Italian form the entire list should be overhauled and put into this form to give it a more uniform flavour.

Strange, I spent so long trying to get them into a French form (unsuccessfully) that I totally missed the fact that they would be more likely to be in an Italian form after a generation or two.

Thoughts?

[SicilianVespers]

All suggestions are welcome. I am somewhat limited by whatever literature on the subject I can obtain in English (which is only a few books).

A couple of things need to be kept in mind though. The names in this list and the Sicilian faction as a whole reflect the Norman Kingdom of Sicily which lasted until 1194 as an truly independent faction (before it was inherited by the Holy Roman Emperor). The names I used kept to this period alone. After this period the Kingdom of Sicily was simply a possession that was squabbled over by a multitude of European powers up until the modern era. I decided that I would not include names from this later period as the independent faction represented in the game and the Norman Kingdom of Sicily was effectively over.

I would say that if you can turn up more names for Sicily that do not extend beyond 1194 then this is fine but I would not be in favour of including names from later dates.

As for putting the names in an Italian form this is a very interesting proposal. The list needs to be put into a language form other than its current Anglo-Latin, and I guess this would have to be either be Italian or French.

HOWEVER! If we are going to start adding names that are in an Italian form the entire list should be overhauled and put into this form to give it a more uniform flavour.

Strange, I spent so long trying to get them into a French form (unsuccessfully) that I totally missed the fact that they would be more likely to be in an Italian form after a generation or two.

Thoughts?

I think you should consider extending the list to 1266, after the Battle of Benevento. When Charles of Anjou usurps the throne.

From a Sicilian point of view, the Hohenstaufen dynasty was really a continuation of the Altavilla, in the female line. The same can be said of the House of Aragona, which was also connected to the Hohenstaufen and Altavilla thru Costanza, daughter of Manfredo. We were independent of Aragon until 1409.

About the French naming, I think it does apply to the first generation of Italo-Normans. Sort of the same situation would have existed in Normany, the first generation would have been very Norse, but the second would have been Norman-French.

I'll put a list together, and you can let me know what you think?

[deRougemont]

I'll put a list together, and you can let me know what you think?

Definitely, this will be interesting.

[SicilianVespers]

The files are attached. This was a quick list from what I had used in other mods plus your by names.

A technique I use to make the more powerful clans appear more often is to duplicate their name in descr_names. For example, a family that held twenty three baronies should appear far more often than a family of urban magnates in Palermo.

I didn't do a lookup file, because the game doesn't use it.

If you need more names, I can get more. I just need to look thru my books & papers.

[deRougemont]

A technique I use to make the more powerful clans appear more often is to duplicate their name in descr_names.

We have plans to do this for all the factions. Are you sure that it is as simple as repeating the names you want to occur more often in the descr_names.txt? How much have you tested this? If true, this will be easier to do than I thought...

I didn't do a lookup file, because the game doesn't use it.

Are you sure about this as well? I've never been able to find out what the purpose of this file is, so I'm not entirely surprised to hear this. I never tested the game without it though. If true this will save me a lot of work.

I'll leave it to Black Francis to comment on your names since I know little about the Normans in Sicily.

[SicilianVespers]

We have plans to do this for all the factions. Are you sure that it is as simple as repeating the names you want to occur more often in the descr_names.txt? How much have you tested this? If true, this will be easier to do than I thought...

Yes, I used this method when I did the names for Chivalry:TW. It works

Are you sure about this as well? I've never been able to find out what the purpose of this file is, so I'm not entirely surprised to hear this. I never tested the game without it though. If true this will save me a lot of work.

Same as above, I didn't bother with it in Chivalry, and it works with no problems.

[deRougemont]

@Vespers

Good news, thanks for sharing these technical tips with us, they will be very helpful! We'll continue with the content of your list after we hear from Francis.

[Black Francis]

Vespers, your list is SUPERB!
Its great, I can see the Norman names and how they have changed into an Italian form.

It is missing some names such as Hauteville (or maybe Im just blind). I would be more than happy if you were to continue where I left off.

[SicilianVespers]

Vespers, your list is SUPERB!
Its great, I can see the Norman names and how they have changed into an Italian form.

It is missing some names such as Hauteville (or maybe Im just blind). I would be more than happy if you were to continue where I left off.

Thanks, Hauteville is Altavilla in Italian

I will look thru my sources for more family names (I think we need more). What do you think about adding some Southern Italian Lombard first names, like Gisulfo, Pandolfo, Gaimario, etc... You should be very familiar with these after reading Norwich, maybe make 1/4 or 1/5 of the first names S. Lombard?

[deRougemont]

@SicilianVespers

Yay, more and better names for Sicily, lol! I'll let Francis answer your question above. I just wanted to ask quickly if you have any interest in redoing the names list for the Papal States? We have someone doing Milan, and I did Venice already. Papal States will be all thats left for Italy. Interested? You will be my hero if you do...

[Black Francis]

@Vespers,

Thanks for clarifying the Hauteville issue.

I would say yes to more Lombard first names, 1/4 seems fine to me. The problem I knew I was encountering with reading Norwich is that it really was a history of the Normans and not the pre-existing Lombard culture and that the Lomabards would not be adequately reflected in my list. I tried to include a few Lombard female names to reflect Normans marrying into and allying themselves with existing Lomabard noble households.

I would also suggest we put in any other popular Christian names you could come up with as these were pretty much universal.

EDIT: Out of interest, what would be the Italian version of the Norman family name "Norris" if there was one?