Alliances in RtJ 2.1

**herb0815** · February 14, 2007, 08:23 PM

No one is making alliances in my game. Is this correct, or did I something wrong?

**Viper_tempest** · February 15, 2007, 02:24 PM

There is alot of alliances in my game, playing hard / hard as england atm.

All islam factions is allied, and a few others i cant remember.

Also a few backstabs, including the french upon me.

**herb0815** · February 15, 2007, 02:55 PM

In older versions of RtJ it was the same in my games, but in 2.1 no one allies. I am playing on VH / VH, can someone tell something about his campaign on VH settings.

**Werebear** · February 19, 2007, 12:11 PM

No AI Alliances in my game. VH VH. I played till 1240

**Cymera** · February 19, 2007, 04:16 PM

In all my tests as England, France and the Scots came forth with alliances very quickly. Also some factions have allied, fewer have gone to war though.

**Rammstein** · February 19, 2007, 04:29 PM

AI make alliances very rearly but they do, Im making some maybe from the start.

**aion2006** · February 20, 2007, 05:47 PM

Also don't alliance with the Papal State. It tend to cause a bit of problem. Its already suggested by the maker of Ultimate A.I. He was thinking of disabling it, I believe.

Lol it wasn't until a few days ago, I was so down due to the fact that my game play is sorta restricted by alliance. Before I've allied with every single faction lol, why not? But I see the large different now.

BTW: Anybody else see dismount hoispllier knight and Templar in campaign?

**Cymera** · February 20, 2007, 05:59 PM

Why should we not ally with the Papal States? I always used to ally with them to keep relations strong.

**aion2006** · February 20, 2007, 06:17 PM

Same here, GrandViz noted it in this read me for U.AI 1.3

"- Papal States will behave reasonable (for best results do not ally the Papal States)"

I believe its because Papal are very powerful influence in the game. In 2.1 I was at war with Italy fighting over an Island. I gave it to the papal state knowing that they will accept it and Italy wouldn't dare attack them. They didn't for a little while. When when they did, full blown European war and the pope was sooo unforgivable. Crusade, and the all the Christian factor was all over Italy. I did the same when in Jerusalem. lol.

I once gave them all my land surrounding Jerusalem as a shield since they built a Strong Defensive army then the other factor.

I could be wrong. I'm just gonna have as much fun as I can on 2.21. Let me know whats up.

Just notice while I was playing Sicily. I'm allied with Venice already? O_o also they are allow military access

**Rammstein** · February 21, 2007, 05:03 AM

well since AI doesnt make allies so much I gave them some at the start, specially for small faction. (unfortunatly AI never asks for military access)

portugal, spain
milan, venice, sicily
byzantium, russia
poland, hungary