We know that in total, the Soviet Union moblized almost 35 million men in World War 2. What are the ethnic group percentages of this? Meaning, how many of them were Russians, Ukranians, etc.
We know that in total, the Soviet Union moblized almost 35 million men in World War 2. What are the ethnic group percentages of this? Meaning, how many of them were Russians, Ukranians, etc.
Last edited by Applesmack; January 30, 2009 at 08:29 PM.
Gonna be extremely hard to come up with numbers on that one. Officially there were no ethnic groups, all were Soviets.
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I do remember reading about the admiration Zhukov had for 2 Mongolian cavalry divisions that served with him , also a Tuvan division as well.
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Well on wiki, it says that 2.4 million Ukranians died fighting for the Red Army but it doesn't say the total served, so the Soviets definately kept track of ethnicities or they wouldn't know that.
The Mongolions were some of the biggest fanatics in the Red Army. During the battle of Moscow, they did a cavalry charge at a German tank column.
Last edited by Applesmack; January 30, 2009 at 09:48 PM.
still though, those mongolians charging a tank with an 88 cannon+ machine guns stareing at you, they got ballz o' steel.
I can just picture them charging the panzer tanks with lances with shaped charges in the end.
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Polish cavalry (equipped with modern small arms and light artillery like the highly effective Bofors 37 mm antitank gun) never charged German tanks or entrenched infantry or artillery directly, but usually acted as mobile infantry (like dragoons) and reconnaissance units and executed cavalry charges only in rare situations against enemy infantry
Did you read it before posting the link? :hmmm: They may have been rare, but they still happened, and some of them succeeded
I know hundreds of thousands Turkic were forced to fight and some 600 000 Tatars kia.
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Probably mostly Russian, after all, most of the other ethnic groups were being occupied by the Nazis ( minus the Siberians-Mongols, Georgians, etc.). By the time the Soviet Union had driven Germany out of its Eastern territories, the vast majority of the army was Russian, and probably remained that way for the rest of the war.
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The Chez also operated with the Red Army but I'm not sure if they were considered part of it.
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The majority of soldiers were probably Russian, being the largest and most dominant group. Though I heard that the Soviets, at the end of the war, had to rely more and more on Asian soldiers and those levied from newly (re)conquered areas.
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It was part of soviet ideology, that they were bringing true national liberation to all of the ethnic groups in the USSR. Actually, every ethnic group had to have some national territory (that's why there was a jewish autonomous district in eastern Siberia for example, previously almost empty and without Jews).
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Well, my grandfather is Karachay, for example. His family were loaded up onto trains like cattle and deported to Kyrgyzstan in 1943, like the rest of the nation, except the men, practically all of whom were fighting for their country at the front.
The excuse for the deportation being that the populace somehow "co-operated" with the German forces that occupied the area in 1942. (The real reason was of course Stalin wanting to clear the Caucasus of non-Georgians).
So if most of the Karachay men fought in the war, then I'd wager that most other ethnic groups also participated.
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No, unfortunately.
Though Karachays were rehabilitated and allowed to return to their homeland in 1957, my grandfather didn't. Instead he married a Ukrainian woman, which didn't go down well with his clan, so they ran away to live in Magadan, Siberia.
Their daughter (my mother) came back to Kyrgyzstan and lived with her Ukrainian grandparents, and only saw my grandfather when they came to visit. I guess you can say my grandfather was sort of 'ostricised' from the community (well, sort of). I never had the chance to spend much time with him, let alone the rest of the Karachay family, so I only speak Russian.
I would like to learn it one day though.
Incindentally, my grandfather and grandmother now live in Kyrgyzstan, and it's slightly easier for them because Kyrgyz and Karachay languages are quite intelligible. For other non Kyrgyz it's quite hard because of the nationalism and corruption, which is why many have left (like me and my imediate family). Even Uzbeks are disliked by Kyrgyz, because they're too hard-working and honest and not corrupt enough.