Now I know why this game has been so easy for me...

**FriendoftheDork** · January 24, 2007, 04:19 PM

One word: Protectorate. After getting Milan as a client state I've been gettting over 15k tribute every turn, only from their two cities!.... recognise the figure?

Just to mention, this is the 2.0 problem. I guess in 2.1 we'll just get 5k tribute per turn as the AI cash boost is limited.

**Giorgos** · January 24, 2007, 05:19 PM

2.1 is out. Go get it.

**FriendoftheDork** · January 25, 2007, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by Giorgos - Zahos

2.1 is out. Go get it.

I would need to start a new campaign for that, so not yet. Just wanted Lusted to know a possible consequence of AI cash boost (any amount).

**Arksa** · January 25, 2007, 11:31 AM

2.1 is save compatible with 2.0

**Faust Gottes** · January 25, 2007, 11:43 AM

But the money script doesn't change (not sure why it wouldn't) if you play a 2.0 save game using 2.1. Read the sticky about 2.1.

I find it interesting that you are getting that much money from your vassal. While playing as the Moors in 2.0, I was forced to become a client state of France, Spain, and HRE. However, each of them agreed to give ME tribute of 1000-1500 Florians per turn for 10 turns. When I looked at my faction's end-of-turn balance, I got the money from them. But I didn't seem to be paying them anything. Is there a hidden column somewhere where it shows that I am paying them some amount of money? Or does it mot really matter that you are a client kingdom, other than national pride...

**jaklei** · January 25, 2007, 12:03 PM

Well the AI does most certainly pay tribute when they are vassaled by you

**FriendoftheDork** · January 25, 2007, 12:15 PM

The player is much more able to spend his resources, so that when you end turn you don't lose that much of your treasury.

**Faust Gottes** · January 25, 2007, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by FriendoftheDork

The player is much more able to spend his resources, so that when you end turn you don't lose that much of your treasury.

Why would you lose your treasury? It doesn't make much sense for a client kingdom to pay tribute from its surplus cash. If I'm collecting tribute, it had better be the first thing my vassal pays, because if I don't see my money there's going to be blood shed. Besides, the AI generally uses a spend policy and burns through cash too.

**Ebusitanus** · January 26, 2007, 05:57 AM

As I understand it you get the surplus cash.

**Faust Gottes** · January 26, 2007, 10:17 AM

wow. someone didn't think that through very well. I have had surplus cash a few turns and NOT lost it to one of my masters. Maybe this problem will only present itself because of the huge cash bonus the AI gets.

**FriendoftheDork** · January 26, 2007, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by Faust Gottes

wow. someone didn't think that through very well. I have had surplus cash a few turns and NOT lost it to one of my masters. Maybe this problem will only present itself because of the huge cash bonus the AI gets.

Protectorates have been buggy since RTW 1.0.

Here's how it should be: Vassals pay half their net profit each turn to their liege lord. This means everything after all other expenses except recruitment, mercenaries and construction. Vassals should not get a negative treasury, but neither should they be able to just spend it all on recruitment and building so they have nothing to "tax".