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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcolm Tucker View Post
    Are you reading the article in full or just looking at the charts? Firstly it says that the exceptional years are unlikely to be repeated because EU nations are legislating against accepting high numbers of migrants and secondly the high migration figures you're quoting for the 20-30% figure in Sweden is based upon if record levels of migrants continue to arrive like they did from 2014-16. Considering the figures dropped significantly in 2018, the "high" scenario doesn't seem the most likely.
    Wrong. Even in the medium migration scenario, which I'm basing it off of and which assumes little to no refugee intake, Muslims are still expected to make up 20% of all Swedes by 2050. The growth of the Muslim population is almost entirely due to native-born and legal immigrants, not recent "undocumented" refugee arrivals.

    A second, “medium” migration scenario assumes that all refugee flows will stop as of mid-2016 but that recent levels of “regular” migration to Europe will continue (i.e., migration of those who come for reasons other than seeking asylum; see note on terms below). Under these conditions, Muslims could reach 11.2% of Europe’s population in 2050.
    Sweden, which also has accepted a relatively high number of refugees, would experience even greater effects if the migration levels from 2014 to mid-2016 were to continue indefinitely: Sweden’s population (8% Muslim in 2016) could grow to 31% Muslim in the high scenario by 2050, compared with 21% in the medium scenario and 11% with no further Muslim migration.

    By contrast, the countries projected to experience the biggest changes in the medium scenario (such as the UK) tend to have been destinations for the highest numbers of regular Muslim migrants. This scenario only models regular migration.

    And countries with Muslim populations that are especially young, or have a relatively large number of children, would see the most significant change in the zero migration scenario; these include France, Italy and Belgium.




    Are you seeing the pattern?

    And that's by 2050, not 2100 or 2150.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prodromos View Post
    Are you seeing the pattern?
    Yep. I'm seeing same old pattern of far-righters collectively wetting their beds at the prospect of "OMFG!!! Da Ebil Moslims are taking over!!!1one!!".

    What I can't understand is why you all seem to care so much? Are you all going to be forcibly converted to Islam? No. Are your wives/girlfriends going to be forced to wear a Burka? No. Will the law of your land be scrapped and replaced by Sharia Law? No. Are you all going to be beheaded by ISIS? No. Are your children going to be groomed? No.

    It will not affect you in any way. So grow up.

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    Don't worry, I think you'll understand within a few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcolm Tucker View Post
    You're not fixing it for me; you're pulling a figure out of thin air to dispute figures that ultimately come from Eurostat.
    More than 1 million people went to Germany in 2015, that is undisputed fact. Your EU statistic only lists asylum seekers, but Germany also got 450.000 unregistered illegals.

    Quote Originally Posted by Malcolm Tucker View Post
    And it's already been pointed out to you that you don't need to be fleeing a warzone to claim refugee status. What do you think a homosexual man's life is like in some sub-Saharan countries, for example?
    Unlike the UK, 9/10 of the world think homosexuality is immoral. That doesn't mean we have to take every man in the world, it would also make asylum open for abuse because noone can prove if someone is really a homosexual. Therefore I don't acknowledge "being homosexual" as entitlement for asylum, a refugee is someone who flees warfare or actual persecution, asylum is hospitality for those people who were actually in danger and has to expire when they can safely return to their home country, it's original purpose is not a tool for immigration. And countries with a functioning rule of law should definitely not be branded unsafe, just because they aren't liberal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayer View Post
    More than 1 million people went to Germany in 2015, that is undisputed fact. Your EU statistic only lists asylum seekers, but Germany also got 450.000 unregistered illegals.
    That's the number of immigrants that passed through Germany. It's not the number of immigrants that settled in. Some continued to UK, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, France, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PointOfViewGun View Post
    There is a thread dedicated to that. It's better to have that discussion in that thread.




    While that is a nice "sound" bite, Jesus, nor his disciples, never really demanded soldiers they encountered to lay down their arms. In fact, his disciples acknowledged use of force from time to time. There are, of course, interpretations that tells us how the verse you're referring to is about avoiding escalation, not necessarily a call against violence as a whole. We have seen him ordering people to buy swords (Luke 22:36) or making a whip and driving people out of the Temple (John 2:15). When he encounters the centurion, he does not tell him to lay down his weapons or turn away from a path of physical force. Jesus was no pacifist.
    How does John 2:15 show Jesus not to be a pacifist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infidel144 View Post
    How does John 2:15 show Jesus not to be a pacifist?
    From the post you quoted:
    Quote Originally Posted by PointOfViewGun View Post
    While that is a nice "sound" bite, Jesus, nor his disciples, never really demanded soldiers they encountered to lay down their arms. In fact, his disciples acknowledged use of force from time to time. There are, of course, interpretations that tells us how the verse you're referring to is about avoiding escalation, not necessarily a call against violence as a whole. We have seen him ordering people to buy swords (Luke 22:36) or making a whip and driving people out of the Temple (John 2:15). When he encounters the centurion, he does not tell him to lay down his weapons or turn away from a path of physical force. Jesus was no pacifist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PointOfViewGun View Post
    From the post you quoted:
    What Setekh bolded + ref:
    "making a whip and driving people out of the Temple (John 2:15)":
    Hmmm....
    How about quoting your version of John 2:15...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infidel144 View Post
    What Setekh bolded + ref:
    "making a whip and driving people out of the Temple (John 2:15)":
    Hmmm....
    How about quoting your version of John 2:15...
    My version? I have not published a Bible. I get the verses from Bible Gateway. Its readily available.

    I gave three examples by the way. Any reason why you only focus on one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PointOfViewGun View Post
    My version? I have not published a Bible. I get the verses from Bible Gateway. Its readily available.

    I gave three examples by the way. Any reason why you only focus on one?
    Hmmm 2:15 (noting Setekh's bold: "making a whip and driving people out of the Temple"):
    "So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables."
    How does driving sheep and cattle from the temple mean Jesus is not a pacifist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infidel144 View Post
    Hmmm 2:15 (noting Setekh's bold: "making a whip and driving people out of the Temple"):
    "So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables."
    How does driving sheep and cattle from the temple mean Jesus is not a pacifist?
    OK, no comment on other examples then... How is driving them out of the temple with violence OK with pacifism? If you wanna argue that he only whipped animals that's the impression you get if you read the New International version, but not the King James version.
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