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    From the begining of history white men were a minority in their countries. Either you return to the system when only white men could vote or since you recognize women and minority voting you should be prepared for women and minorities having their share on governing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papay View Post
    From the begining of history white men were a minority in their countries.
    Huh? What louzy fantasy novel are you mistaking for 'history'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by swabian View Post
    Huh? What louzy fantasy novel are you mistaking for 'history'?
    For the US he would be right count the slaves (and few free blacks) and first nations population and then remove the white women and you got a minority of white men. For other nations of course the situation is different and how the minority in charge was not always defined by skin color so that's a toss up.
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    Papay is right as the right to vote was in all european countries first only for men with a certain wealth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by conon394 View Post
    For the US he would be right count the slaves (and few free blacks) and first nations population and then remove the white women and you got a minority of white men.
    But noone would do that, excluding women from a population makes no sense. White women can also be conservative, half of them voted for Donald Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidin View Post
    I still want to know if you can explain what a strawman is. Because I look at your title and get oddly confused.

    Do you know how big the campaign staff is? But sure. Totally misunderstand what a strawman is by throwing that title up there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Settra View Post
    It doesn't matter if it's 50 people or 5 million, race based hiring is never ok - regardless of the race.
    So if you're looking for a Black actor to portray slavery in film, it's not okay to look for exclusively black actors?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Settra View Post
    It doesn't matter if it's 50 people or 5 million, race based hiring is never ok - regardless of the race.
    I see you fell for the OP's strawman of the article hook, line, and sinker. Of which they didn't even post the entire article btw. Fun way of strawmanning articles, that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sukiyama View Post
    So if you're looking for a Black actor to portray slavery in film, it's not okay to look for exclusively black actors?
    But Hollywood wouldn't hire a white actor to portray a slave, yet have no qualms blackifying classic white characters. Diversity hire is real.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayer View Post
    But Hollywood wouldn't hire a white actor to portray a slave
    Have you seen Game of Thrones?
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    yet have no qualms blackifying classic white characters. Diversity hire is real.
    I guess the implication is that "slave" is a classic black character?

    You are also forgetting the plethora of historically non-white people "white-ified" for the silver screen. Or do you honestly believe Alexander the Great was as pale as Colin Farrell?
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    Default Re: If you’re a White Man the Democratic Party of America doesn’t want you

    Quote Originally Posted by Sukiyama View Post
    So if you're looking for a Black actor to portray slavery in film, it's not okay to look for exclusively black actors?
    In that case race based hiring is necessary and justified if it’s American slavery. However historically all races have been enslaved some way or another
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sukiyama View Post
    So if you're looking for a Black actor to portray slavery in film, it's not okay to look for exclusively black actors?
    Why would you want a black actor to portray "slavery" in film?


    Quote Originally Posted by The spartan View Post
    You are also forgetting the plethora of historically non-white people "white-ified" for the silver screen. Or do you honestly believe Alexander the Great was as pale as Colin Farrell?
    lol. Have you ever seen a Greek in real life?

    PS: Greece isn't Mexico. Neither are Italy, Spain, or Portugal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sukiyama View Post
    So if you're looking for a Black actor to portray slavery in film, it's not okay to look for exclusively black actors?
    That's competence based hiring though, it just happens that competence and race coincide. You're hiring the black actor because he's the best for the role, not exclusively because of his physical traits.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidin View Post
    I see you fell for the OP's strawman of the article hook, line, and sinker. Of which they didn't even post the entire article btw. Fun way of strawmanning articles, that.
    I don't care about the democratic party. I just don't like hypocrisy.

    Quote Originally Posted by The spartan View Post
    You are also forgetting the plethora of historically non-white people "white-ified" for the silver screen. Or do you honestly believe Alexander the Great was as pale as Colin Farrell?

    Looks pretty white european to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayer View Post
    But Hollywood wouldn't hire a white actor to portray a slave, yet have no qualms blackifying classic white characters. Diversity hire is real.
    There is always Spartacus...



    You are also forgetting the plethora of historically non-white people "white-ified" for the silver screen. Or do you honestly believe Alexander the Great was as pale as Colin Farrell?
    Not much darker either. imo. ( given what we know anyway)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Settra View Post
    I don't care about the democratic party. I just don't like hypocrisy.
    Except OP somehow turned diversity hiring into " the whites". You bought into it. When you read the article you see them looking for the competent minorities, but if they get beaten to them by the other campaigns they're not going to hire an incompetent minority. They'll hire the competent ones nonetheless. You incompetently bought into the OP's strawman of the article. Hilariously so. It's not hypocrisy. When you campaign to a diverse base you need these opinions and you need this input. It's not like my field where black, white, or yellow the engineering equations don't change. The cultural base does. You need the input from competent advisers that know these cultures or the campaign is going to be seriously skewed. The best example is how badly Bernie did with the African Americans in the 2016 Primaries.

    So now what is it. Diverse campaign staff to help advise you on campaigning to a diverse cultural base? Or...white?

    How now would you like to branch out your staff when campaigning to the democratic primary base?

    Or, you know. We can just take OP's strawman of Democrats don't want white people. Which is it?
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    When you campaign to a diverse base you need these opinions and you need this input.
    Is there such a thing as a ‘diverse’ opinion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aexodus View Post
    Is there such a thing as a ‘diverse’ opinion?
    Do you read posts? This is why you hire a staff. Not just one person. Next time you strawman my I'm ignoring your ass.
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    But are you really saying that there are political opinions limited to certain races?
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    Quote Originally Posted by athanaric View Post
    lol. Have you ever seen a Greek in real life?

    PS: Greece isn't Mexico. Neither are Italy, Spain, or Portugal.
    Yeah, they tend to be darker than Irish folks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aexodus View Post
    But are you really saying that there are political opinions limited to certain races?
    Ask Bernie’s numbers.
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