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    Default Re: If you’re a White Man the Democratic Party of America doesn’t want you

    Quote Originally Posted by The spartan View Post
    Better question: why are so many white men 'snowflakes'? Egos seem so fragile here.
    Because some of them have never experienced actual discrimination in their entire lives, and have no real reference for it. They just believe anytime someone doesn't do what they say or give them what they want, that means they are being discriminated against.

    It's like if you give a three-year old an ice cream cone and they accidentally drop it. They cry and scream like you just told them they had to have all four limbs amputated. Because with their limited experience they can't comprehend anything worse than loosing their ice cream. It's the same with a certain type of white male and being told "No, you aren't getting your way this time."

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    Because some of them have never experienced actual discrimination in their entire lives, and have no real reference for it. They just believe anytime someone doesn't do what they say or give them what they want, that means they are being discriminated against.
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    Another reason is that the right relies on conspiracy theories in an attempt to explain the world around them, resulting in them living in a distorted alternate reality that has little in common with the real world. If a conservative isn't getting his way, his first response is to accuse unseen hands of plotting against him. The Left has never openly embraced a conspiracy theory the way the right constantly does: you get anti-vaxxers and 9/11 truthers sure, but other lefties consider them nuts and both conspiracy theories also resonate with right-wingers. It's not like birtherism, climate change denial, creeping sharia, crisis actors, death panels, pizzagate, or widespread illegal voting where the conspiracy theories became a core part of conservative ideology and have a shot at being translated into policy and law. With that in mind it's easy to see how white conservatives can be easily led to believe that there is a vast conspiracy involving all non-white non-conservatives in the world devoted solely to keeping them down.
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    Why is the idpol crowd critical of someone because of their immutable characteristics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aexodus View Post
    Why is the idpol crowd critical of someone because of their immutable characteristics?
    Too be clear I am against being critical of somebody simply because they are white and male. I can get the idea that people will sometimes get the impression that criticism of white males as cultural group will sometimes feel like a personal attack on white individuals, but this sorta happens with every gender/race combo. It really isn't something to freak out about; the people who think white males are bad for simply being white males are very few. I hang around some pretty intense leftist and have never been criticized for being white or male.
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    Sorry but Beto O’Rourke being white is not a weakness, white privilege doesn’t exist, and there is a mood among some that demands a ‘diverse’ President. Is this not racism?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aexodus View Post
    Sorry but Beto O’Rourke being white is not a weakness, white privilege doesn’t exist, and there is a mood among some that demands a ‘diverse’ President.
    These seem like cute soundbites, but I sincerely doubt your understanding of our "mood" in the US is accurate. Is what I said not correct? People have to deal with having their ethnicity conflated with their individuality all the time, and the severity of these conflations seems a lot less than many other stereotypes. Not that I have even experienced such discrimination first hand or know many people who have.

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    Is this not racism?
    Probably not in the way you are meaning it, no.
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    Default Re: If you’re a White Man the Democratic Party of America doesn’t want you

    Quote Originally Posted by Aexodus View Post
    Sorry but Beto O’Rourke being white is not a weakness, white privilege doesn’t exist, and there is a mood among some that demands a ‘diverse’ President. Is this not racism?
    Well rich white male privilege certainty does exist since Trump would be flipping burgers otherwise. The problem with Beto is he is not really bringing much besides camera friendly white guy who failed in a senate bid to the table. As I already said I recommend you not just listen to a some condensed sound clips but put the effort into tracking down all those CNN pieces. Beto is simply a charismatic but not very impressive politician, once you take away white and balls its not clear why he is bidding for president. Realistically the dems have Bernie and Biden, Beto offers not really anything they don't he should take is nice talk and re run for senate or maybe Texas governor (which would be cool you now not loosing states and having a say in redistricting and what not).
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    Quote Originally Posted by irontaino View Post
    "When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression"
    Except that aside from the far-left nut echo chamber, there is no such thing as "white privilege", hence why what far-left nutter crowd calls equality literally implies de-facto oppression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathen Hammer View Post
    Except that aside from the far-left nut echo chamber, there is no such thing as "white privilege", hence why what far-left nutter crowd calls equality literally implies de-facto oppression.
    Yeah, it's not like there is research behind it or anything. Far-leftists all.

    Maybe you are right, the observations and opinions of a non-native person who probably hasn't spent much time at all in the US is more trustworthy than academic researchers who live here. Probably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathen Hammer View Post
    Except that aside from the far-left nut echo chamber, there is no such thing as "white privilege", hence why what far-left nutter crowd calls equality literally implies de-facto oppression.
    I'm not a fan of the airheaded and essentialistic way the term "white privilege" is used, but are you seriously suggesting that being part of the majority ethnic group doesn't entail any benefits or privileges? Because that is a complete delusion one mostly runs into in the far-right nut echo chamber.

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    Default Re: If you’re a White Man the Democratic Party of America doesn’t want you

    Quote Originally Posted by Heathen Hammer View Post
    Except that aside from the far-left nut echo chamber, there is no such thing as "white privilege", hence why what far-left nutter crowd calls equality literally implies de-facto oppression.
    POC get harsher sentences for the same crimes as their white counterparts, redlining segregates neighborhoods by arbitrarily denying financial services to POC, I could keep going. But don't worry guys, according to HH, in the country where up to 50-60 years ago, photos of lynched black corpses surrounded by smiling white revelers circulated as postcards, racism is over. I know he'll dismiss any source outright and double down on his claims, we've done this song and dance before, so I'll just leave it at that.
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    Not what that article in the link even suggests, but nice try at misleading the forum.
    I never get tired of socialists screaming at free market doing its thing and calling it racism.
    I could keep going. But don't worry guys, according to HH, in the country where up to 50-60 years ago, photos of lynched black corpses surrounded by smiling white revelers circulated as postcards, racism is over. I know he'll dismiss any source outright and double down on his claims, we've done this song and dance before, so I'll just leave it at that.
    So basically, there is still racist conspiracy within every level of US government, but asking for evidence for it is... also racist. Your ideology is as unfalsifiable as that of flat-earthers, although at least latter don't tend to start riots.
    Quote Originally Posted by Whitey McKnightey View Post
    I'm not a fan of the airheaded and essentialistic way the term "white privilege" is used, but are you seriously suggesting that being part of the majority ethnic group doesn't entail any benefits or privileges? Because that is a complete delusion one mostly runs into in the far-right nut echo chamber.

    So where do I apply for my white privilege card? Does it work at gas stations? What about Steam?

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