Client rulers

**karo** · February 02, 2019, 04:11 AM

In my Roman campaign, when my client rulers died I could not recruit a new ruler. I had to destroy the government buildings and rebuilt them so that I could recruit a new ruler. Do not know if this is a feature in the game or is this a bug?

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**COMIS -3- ΠΑΝΙΩΝΑΡΑ** · February 02, 2019, 04:32 AM

It a feature of the game

**QuintusSertorius** · February 02, 2019, 04:52 AM

Feature, exactly as intended. Destroying and rebuilding represents the trouble of installing a new regime to replace the old.

**karo** · February 02, 2019, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by QuintusSertorius

Feature, exactly as intended. Destroying and rebuilding represents the trouble of installing a new regime to replace the old.

Ok, pretty cool feature but a pain in the ass in the game. Love it!

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**TheBlackCat** · February 02, 2019, 05:31 PM

Also regarding client rulers: as Saba, the game recommends establishing a client state in Zafar, which I did, but the town is small, poor, safe, and has no problems with corruption or unrest, I could probably station 1 soldier there and it would be fine.

That being so, income is 934 currently: 200 improvements, 54 trade, 408 (normal) tax, 272 average harvest.

Anyone can tell me when I could expect a client ruler to make his wages back, and whether or not I can train him at the school of scribes if he's young?

**Cryoshakespeare** · February 03, 2019, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by TheBlackCat

Also regarding client rulers: as Saba, the game recommends establishing a client state in Zafar, which I did, but the town is small, poor, safe, and has no problems with corruption or unrest, I could probably station 1 soldier there and it would be fine.

That being so, income is 934 currently: 200 improvements, 54 trade, 408 (normal) tax, 272 average harvest.

Anyone can tell me when I could expect a client ruler to make his wages back, and whether or not I can train him at the school of scribes if he's young?

He might not make his wages back, however stick him in there with low taxes for long enough and he might pick up good traits like Satisfied Humanitarian and whatnot, or something like that, but they are traits which increase population growth. I don't know if you can train them at schools, but they should pick up ancillaries I believe. From an RP perspective, if I justified not recruiting a client ruler in a place like that, I'd just say that the ruler in question is not influential or involved enough in the machinations of the faction leader to be involved in much of a way, but there still is a local ruler there. I think for Zafar, it just gets unrest if you install factional governments, doesn't mean you need a client ruler necessarily.

**TheBlackCat** · February 05, 2019, 09:59 AM

Well, of course there's a local ruler, or a council of them (democracy, since I don't need law in Zafar); the high king just didn't provide them with weapons, armour and training, maybe even an education, at the Court's expense; and cash on tap, like with all the royal princes.

And governor traits like the humanitarian line only start gaining in significance when the town starts to have famine and a large tax and trade income, so the Himyar(?) tribes will still have to get their collective fecal matter together before the kingdom starts treating their representatives like a honorary princely court.