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    Quote Originally Posted by B. W. View Post
    Freed blacks? Just to help you out, this is not the 19th century, it's the 21st century. And just so you know, black unemployment is at its lowest in the history of the country.
    I suggest you re-read that aswell as what he was replying to. (post #53)
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    Given how many can literally happen, what wording would you prefer?
    I don't know, but then I'm not a lawmaker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nhytgbvfeco2 View Post
    I suggest you re-read that aswell as what he was replying to. (post #53)
    Nothing to indicate he was referring to post 53. It wouldn't be accurate in any case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aexodus View Post
    As someone who isn’t American and doesn’t have skin in the game, how can anyone not applaud banning late term abortion, and banning allowing the child to die after birth.
    If someone finds themselves needing a late term abortion its not typically about them not wanting the baby. It's usually about some unexpected reason. In a country without socialized medicine. Which you again, as a brit, self-admittedly by your own words, won't understand. But I mean, sure. Boost the number of dangerous births if you like.
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    "Usually."

    "Only a few thousand innocent human beings are murdered for no reason, you wingnuts. Quit making a big deal out of it!"

    The party of the poor and marginalized.

    These are the same people who want to ban guns because 20 people got shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by B. W. View Post
    Nothing to indicate he was referring to post 53. It wouldn't be accurate in any case.
    Just compare the 2:
    Funny that Republicans want to keep people women from having unwanted children with severe health problems but also want to cut medicaid which would help the women who are now forced to have those babies deal with their serious and expensive health problems.

    They aren't pro-life, they are just pro-birth. What happens after that is none of their concern.
    Funny that Republicans want to keep whites from enslaving black people but also don't want to give freed blacks a house and a job which would help the blacks who are now forced to work for themselves deal with their serious and expensive unemployment and housing problems.

    They aren't pro-black, they are just pro-emancipation. What happens after that is none of their concern.
    Literally the same wording for a significant portion of it. Read his previous posts on the same page too, he's clearly not on the Democrat side of the isle.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Prodromos View Post
    These are the same people who want to ban guns because 20 people got shot.
    I don't want to totally ban guns personally, but what the hell kind of argument is that?

    39,773 people were killed by guns in the US in 2017. Where does "20 people" come from?
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_mango55 View Post
    I don't want to totally ban guns personally, but what the hell kind of argument is that?

    39,773 people were killed by guns in the US in 2017. Where does "20 people" come from?
    Typically, whenever a mass shooting occurs, usually with no more than a dozen casualties, you see all these leftists coming out of the woodwork demanding gun bans and regulations. "If it saves one life, it's worth it! :'(" But when thousands of innocent babies face being slaughtered by abortionists, these very same people do their best to ignore and downplay it as no big deal.

    I like your choice of words by the way. "39,773 people were killed by guns." Are these guns enchanted or possessed by spirits or something?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Prodromos View Post
    Typically, whenever a mass shooting occurs, usually with no more than a dozen casualties, you see all these leftists coming out of the woodwork demanding gun bans and regulations. "If it saves one life, it's worth it! :'(" But when thousands of innocent babies face being slaughtered by abortionists, these very same people do their best to ignore and downplay it as no big deal.

    I like your choice of words by the way. "39,773 people were killed by guns." Are these guns enchanted or possessed by spirits or something?

    Yeah because obviously mass shootings can only be counted individually, and every time there is another mass shooting all the ones that happened before don't count and we should only consider the few people who died in this specific event and not the many who have died in similar events previously.

    As for the 39,773 people killed by guns, they weren't killed by spirits but rather by people who used guns improperly, irresponsibly, or maliciously. Perhaps if we had a better way to regulate who had access to guns, a good number of those deaths could be prevented.
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    Yeah because obviously mass shootings can only be counted individually, and every time there is another mass shooting all the ones that happened before don't count and we should only consider the few people who died in this specific event and not the many who have died in similar events previously.

    As for the 39,773 people killed by guns, they weren't killed by spirits but rather by people who used guns improperly, irresponsibly, or maliciously. Perhaps if we had a better way to regulate who had access to guns, a good number of those deaths could be prevented.
    How about we also count all the late-term abortions over the decades? Hundreds of thousands of babies murdered by the abortion industry surely justifies passing some regulations.

    If 10000 murders a year justifies regulating guns, then why don't 5000 late-term abortions a year justify regulating abortion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prodromos View Post
    How about we also count all the late-term abortions over the decades? Hundreds of thousands of babies murdered by the abortion industry surely justifies passing some regulations.

    If 10000 murders a year justifies regulating guns, then why don't 5000 late-term abortions a year justify regulating abortion?
    First, let's see your actual stats about the number of late term abortions, from a credible source.

    Secondly. late term abortions ARE regulated. Even in the states that passed laws recently they are regulated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_mango55 View Post
    First, let's see your actual stats about the number of late term abortions, from a credible source.
    In 2003, from data collected in those areas that sufficiently reported gestational age, it was found that 6.2% of abortions were conducted between 13 and 15 weeks, 4.2% between 16 and 20 weeks, and 1.4% at or after 21 weeks.[18] In 2014, the CDC reported that 1.3% of reported abortions (5,578) were performed at 21 weeks of gestation or later.[19]
    Secondly. late term abortions ARE regulated. Even in the states that passed laws recently they are regulated.
    State protection of abortion is the opposite of regulation. Allowing it for reasons of "mental health", not requiring parental notification, not mandating a waiting period, no mandatory counseling or ultrasound laws, not prosecuting abortionists for unlawfully committing abortion, and on and on.

    Imagine if gun regulations consisted of: issuing licenses for recreational purposes, not requiring parental notification for underage buyers, not mandating a waiting period, no mandatory training or mental health exams, not prosecuting people for unlawfully buying or selling a gun. Would that be considered "regulating" guns?

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    Maybe Trump should bring the parents of all the kids murdered and raped by illegal immigrants with him. I would.
    Following the links below, uts easy to understand that Trump is a troll.
    Illegal immigrants are less likely to be incarcerated for crimes in the United States than native-born Americans.
    Texas is the only state that keeps data on the number of convictions of illegal immigrants for specific crimes. In Texas in 2015, the rate of convictions per 100,000 illegal immigrants was 16 percent lower below that of native-born Americans. Criminal Immigrants in Texas: Illegal Immigrant Conviction and Arrest
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    The success of Donald Trump and his ‘post-truth politics’ is seen as, among other things, an effect of the collapse of editorial standards as old ideological monopolies break up and people seek information and opinion from sources that pander to their prejudices. In this climate, the argument goes, political discourse is shaped by appeals to sentiment, not facts.

    Trolling can then be seen as just one more way in which reasoned debate is sabotaged. If anything unites trolls, cyber-sexists and conspiracy theorists, it is that they are out to derail the conversation, either for laughs, to shut women up, or to impose their own obsessions.

    It is not that trolls are necessarily right-wing; often they aren’t, though the right is increasingly trollish.

    Trump himself often gave the impression that he was trying to see what he could get away with saying for the lulz, whether it was claiming that tax avoidance just made him smart, or stating that his plan to profit from foreclosures was ‘the kind of thinking our country needs’, or denouncing the mothers of dead soldiers. As one of his high-profile alt-right supporters told the Guardian, ‘We’re the troll army! We’re here to win! We’re savage!’

    There is reason to think that the far right is the political tendency that stands to gain most from the demolition of the truth. Phillips describes the symbiotic relationship between Fox News and internet trolls: Fox stokes the moral panic while at the same time supplying the cultural agar on which the trolls thrive. The radical right has always been acutely sensitive to the conative part of communication, the aspect that makes people act. Trolling, as a form of communication whose primary goal is manipulation, the power of the troll over the trolled, is ideally suited to such a strategy.
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