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    Quote Originally Posted by NosPortatArma View Post
    the anti americans in the west are just a few leftists, but the governments are pre-american, even the leftist ones, because everyone realises the futility of seriously opposing the USA. In third world, south america, china, russia and such, people also hate USA and so does their governments, but their problem is that they're weaker/poorer so they can't do much anyways. But most important reason is that there simply is no "world" that can do anything, there's just countries, each with their own interest. and high on the list of every country is "don't start a war with the USA because they are the richest and mightest country and also has nukes". yes, this applies even to countries like russia and china, because killing yourself along with everyone else isn't that much better than just dying alone.
    Russia and Chin are third world?

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    Russia and Chin are third world?
    no, i listed some regions that dont like america

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    Trump did tremendous progress compared to his less competent predecessors.
    I still not seeing it. The Korea situation is a sham the only reason war was on the table was because of Trump's rhetoric. At the moment He has essentially accepted NK as nuclear state and given Kim lots of photo ops and more to come. China has relaxed it sanctions. Russia is still trading and the ROK is pushing for aid and contact. Sounds a lot like the situation under Clinton [ergo Trump has done nothing new, except Clinton's deal would have removed NK's nuclear (plutonium producing)reactor with verification]. Realistically how long till republican zealots realize they are being sold a bill of goods and Bolton is not bombing yet. Iran - Bolton is hot to bomb and your man killed Obama's effort to normalize relations - where is the gain own that if you want to own Trump. Drone war up almost 100% just not covered anymore nobody cares about dead people in Yemen or Nigeria or Pakistan. Gotta say the Embassy move was spot on not stoking any tension there. Oh glad to see he is cutting aid to Palestinians. Maybe ICE can help Israel put them in cages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anant View Post
    Moral judgements are subjective; it's OK to be a porn"star" in the west but not OK to wear a burkha, whereas in the middle east it's OK to be a subjugated and chatellised female but not OK to wear a bikini.
    Is killing people also subjective?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just answer the question View Post
    Is killing people also subjective?
    Yes, where do you get your idea of objective morality from?

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    No, America is not an evil "country". There are no evil countries.There are evil regimes. Simply put, the US is an superpower, with all it's inherent flaws. America has a healthy functioning democracy, responsive to the use of reason.Tyrannical, despotic/evil regimes do not rely on the consent of a majority of their citizens. America has never had a dictatorship, as I have said many times.
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    No, America is not an evil "country".
    Maybe not to its people and allies.

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    Maybe not to its people and allies.
    And unfortunately for you invective post most other nations as well.
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    But if the cause be not good, the king himself hath a heavy reckoning to make, when all those legs and arms and heads, chopped off in battle, shall join together at the latter day and cry all 'We died at such a place; some swearing, some crying for surgeon, some upon their wives left poor behind them, some upon the debts they owe, some upon their children rawly left.

    Hyperides of Athens: We know, replied he, that Antipater is good, but we (the Demos of Athens) have no need of a master at present, even a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anant View Post
    But there is tremendous "good" which also emanates from the US.
    If Europeans hate Americans, why doesn't Europe sever ties with America?

    "Believe me, it’s not for the want of trying. What does America produce that any sane person would want want? Barely roadworthy pick up trucks; burgers made from cow eyes, lips, anuses, udders and hooves masquerading as 100% prime beef; ignoramuses for presidents; racist police; unwatchable TV; biased news channels; obesity; ambulance chasers; hospitals that will gladly see you die or become bankrupt if you can’t afford treatment; mass shootings; pro pollution legislation; chocolate that tastes of cheese; cheese that tastes of plastic; beer that’s so disgusting it can only be drunk if cooled to the temperature if liquid nitrogen; football that’s played with hands; a film industry focused on toddlers’ attention spans.
    Thankfully most Americans never travel apply for a passport, so we don’t have to encounter too many in the real world."

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    Really that's the best you got.

    I really can't help a man who only buys low quality cheese and beer. Buy a micro brew if you don't like bud light but am I sorry to me Bud (or the comparable American skank beers) is frankly no worse that European skank lagers like Heineken [No insult to the Dutch they make fine Trappist ales that I would drink any day (but be under the table at their alcohol level) but they make crap beer too] [Sorry to all who like lagers its just I really can't stand them.]. In addition this man has never the pleasure of trying to drink a Tusker w/o gaging. [Sorry Kenya the fried fish, samosas and local fruit was great the beer was vile and really warm] The cheese on the pizza I bought for my daughter at Waterloo station was not exactly stellar[Sorry to London the Mass Transit was awesome just poor pizza for a girl who suddenly decided she was hungry about 5 minutes before the train].

    "Barely roadworthy pick up trucks" I got nothing here except somebody just a person making stuff up and this patently a lie.

    burgers made from cow eyes, lips, anuses, udders and hooves masquerading as 100% prime beef” So the man likes wasting parts of the beef? [Apology to Australia] but the man has never had the stew of left overs that is Vegemite? Is not sausage the time honored way of hiding the not so nice bits. Hooves no man those are rendered down for other purposes like glue and pectin. And finally I suppose this is a reference to the Pink Slime, which is really just the fact modern people don't want to admit to using all the animal. This person buys and eats chitlins? I pretty chill with the concept as it produces a safe produce on the scale needed in an industrial .

    “ignoramuses for presidents” Yep the rest of world has none of those just a rum crew of front line leaders always on the ball and all that.

    “racist police “I believe the same charge is made about how the french police handle their brown people as well [Sorry to France but you just the place I recall a news story about police racism in street stops about]

    “obesity “ Fair. But the numbers show Europe slipping as well in that area.

    “mass shootings “ Fair I would agree but the US is a democracy and enough Americans are cool with the cost of mass gun availability so not really an honest attack.

    football that’s played with hands“ well sure but also Baseball and Ice Hockey and Basketball all thee of which a quite popular about the world. And I believe Rugby does involve your hands... Really what a prat I only get to/supposed watch one sport – he makes the world sound so dull. In any case as an Ice Hockey fan/player why bother with the football, play a sport where you can hit the other guy with a stick?

    a film industry focused on toddlers’ attention spans. “ which seeing that Hollywood has no army to make people watch its moves their world wide revenue suggests the rest of the world has the same attention span.

    biased news channels “ Ha ha yep nobody else has those.

    unwatchable TV” I don’t know how to take that there is always much lost in translation. My kids love watching Japanese anime/ manga but some is great as in watch it again and some risible. And to be honest some Tokusatsu is only watchable because I loved it as a child – never missed an episode of Ultraman.. I would say the same for American TV. Net flicks recent numbers for world wide subscribers also belay this argument.
    Last edited by conon394; February 08, 2019 at 09:18 AM.
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    But if the cause be not good, the king himself hath a heavy reckoning to make, when all those legs and arms and heads, chopped off in battle, shall join together at the latter day and cry all 'We died at such a place; some swearing, some crying for surgeon, some upon their wives left poor behind them, some upon the debts they owe, some upon their children rawly left.

    Hyperides of Athens: We know, replied he, that Antipater is good, but we (the Demos of Athens) have no need of a master at present, even a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by conon394 View Post
    Really that's the best you got.
    Just visit Quora, there's more there.

    Here, I got this from Quora too:



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    Two million troops have been to Iraq and Afghanistan. It would be odd if some of them didn't commit any crime. Can you name one country with a 2,000,000 population that doesn't have any criminals? The military does a far better job prosecuting its criminals than the civilian world. For every killer you name, I can point out 10 or 100 others that risked their lives to save civilians.



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    What did Reagan have to do with Afghanistan? Other than to authorise the support for the Taliban against the Russians that is.

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    Which is nothing less than the US creating its own enemies and manufacturing future conflicts.
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    Here, I got this from Quora too:
    Interesting how they are facing death or life imprisonment - If you want to be example of American evil they need to facing no charges just say mustered out. Besides you just avoided answering my reply in #30. Or addressing the fact your find is beyond silly and subjective. Why hey who funded the Ebola Vaccine - oh wait China in a love for Africa or the munificent 'World' , no wow sorry that would be the US DOD and NIH.

    What did Reagan have to do with Afghanistan? Other than to authorise the support for the Taliban against the Russians that is.
    Not a bad play on the face of it but we should have owed fully it and not let Pakistan Intelligence and the House of Saud pick who was getting money. It is in retrospect appalling how we (the US ) failed to care who we allowed to get funding or to not think about our supposed friends agendas. The blow back everyone like to cite was because we picked very bad sub contractors for our own interests.
    Last edited by conon394; February 09, 2019 at 08:59 AM.
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    'One day when I fly with my hands - up down the sky, like a bird'

    But if the cause be not good, the king himself hath a heavy reckoning to make, when all those legs and arms and heads, chopped off in battle, shall join together at the latter day and cry all 'We died at such a place; some swearing, some crying for surgeon, some upon their wives left poor behind them, some upon the debts they owe, some upon their children rawly left.

    Hyperides of Athens: We know, replied he, that Antipater is good, but we (the Demos of Athens) have no need of a master at present, even a good one.

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    "This Iraqi girl was raped by three American soldiers. After the rape, she was shot in the head and her body was set on fire. Her parents were also murdered by those dirty bastards.
    When caught, the soldier who shot her in the head showed no remorse and openly said that “I didn’t think of Iraqis as humans”.
    She is not the only victim of American Imperialism. American army and American soldiers have killed, raped, maimed millions of people in every corner of the globe from Korea to Afghanistan.
    The biggest tragedy is that the American leaders show no kind of remorse for destroying the lives of innocent people and they feel proud about their military power."

    Hadeed Ajmal Khan, Quora user
    Last edited by Just answer the question; February 09, 2019 at 04:14 PM.

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    The US never supported the Taliban, which was created in the 1990s, long after the Soviet war had ended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 95thrifleman View Post
    What did Reagan have to do with Afghanistan? Other than to authorise the support for the Taliban against the Russians that is.
    Hard to authorize support for group that didn't exist until 1994. The US has some fault for the rise of the Taliban but that mostly has to do with trusting Pakistan.

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    "This Iraqi girl was raped by three American soldiers. After the rape, she was shot in the head and her body was set on fire. Her parents were also murdered by those dirty bastards.
    When caught, the soldier who shot her in the head showed no remorse and openly said that “I didn’t think of Iraqis as humans”.
    She is not the only victim of American Imperialism. American army and American soldiers have killed, raped, maimed millions of people in every corner of the globe from Korea to Afghanistan.
    The biggest tragedy is that the American leaders show no kind of remorse for destroying the lives of innocent people and they feel proud about their military power."

    Hadeed Ajmal Khan, Quora user
    The perp was tried and convicted for his crimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just answer the question View Post


    "This Iraqi girl was raped by three American soldiers. After the rape, she was shot in the head and her body was set on fire. Her parents were also murdered by those dirty bastards.
    When caught, the soldier who shot her in the head showed no remorse and openly said that “I didn’t think of Iraqis as humans”.
    She is not the only victim of American Imperialism. American army and American soldiers have killed, raped, maimed millions of people in every corner of the globe from Korea to Afghanistan.
    The biggest tragedy is that the American leaders show no kind of remorse for destroying the lives of innocent people and they feel proud about their military power."

    Hadeed Ajmal Khan, Quora user
    Again soldiers caught and convicted not given medals...

    Find a better poster to follow anyone who thinks China's rail gun is great or even useful or even working needs a drink and fewer fans.
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    'One day when I fly with my hands - up down the sky, like a bird'

    But if the cause be not good, the king himself hath a heavy reckoning to make, when all those legs and arms and heads, chopped off in battle, shall join together at the latter day and cry all 'We died at such a place; some swearing, some crying for surgeon, some upon their wives left poor behind them, some upon the debts they owe, some upon their children rawly left.

    Hyperides of Athens: We know, replied he, that Antipater is good, but we (the Demos of Athens) have no need of a master at present, even a good one.

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